TLS c/o 2020 - In #Squad We Trust

Share Your Experiences, Read About Other Experiences. Please keep posts organized by school and expected year of graduation.

Rate this thread

10
10
83%
9
0
No votes
8
1
8%
7
0
No votes
6
0
No votes
5
0
No votes
4
0
No votes
3
1
8%
2
0
No votes
1
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 12

User avatar
Instrumental

Silver
Posts: 1393
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:08 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Instrumental » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:14 pm

Sending in apps is so exciting. Even just getting acknowledgement that they've been received is a good feeling. Being a splitter, here's to hoping my LSAT score and relevant softs can take me places.

User avatar
brinicolec

Gold
Posts: 4480
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:09 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby brinicolec » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:27 pm

shotgunheist wrote:
theboringest wrote:Man if that 160-169 drop holds some medians are going to get wrecked.



would pretty much save my cycle tbh



*fingers crossed*

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash

Silver
Posts: 1297
Joined: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:27 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:40 pm

theboringest wrote:Man if that 160-169 drop holds some medians are going to get wrecked.


Could almost become a bad thing for high scorers honestly. Considering its medians schools like NYU could end up eating the loss and spreading money to 160s as opposed to giving out $$$$ to fewer high 170s.

If the goal is median maintenance it be may better not to "waste" money on a single higher score which won't provide much benefit.

User avatar
NotAGolfer

Silver
Posts: 596
Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:50 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby NotAGolfer » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:43 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
theboringest wrote:Man if that 160-169 drop holds some medians are going to get wrecked.


Could almost become a bad thing for high scorers honestly. Considering its medians schools like NYU could end up eating the loss and spreading money to 160s as opposed to giving out $$$$ to fewer high 170s.

If the goal is median maintenance it be may better not to "waste" money on a single higher score which won't provide much benefit.

Don't ruin this for me

User avatar
Gitaroo_Dude

Silver
Posts: 546
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:06 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Gitaroo_Dude » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:46 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
theboringest wrote:Man if that 160-169 drop holds some medians are going to get wrecked.


Could almost become a bad thing for high scorers honestly. Considering its medians schools like NYU could end up eating the loss and spreading money to 160s as opposed to giving out $$$$ to fewer high 170s.

If the goal is median maintenance it be may better not to "waste" money on a single higher score which won't provide much benefit.


I hear r/LSAT cackling in the distance.

User avatar
brinicolec

Gold
Posts: 4480
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:09 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby brinicolec » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:50 pm

NotAGolfer wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
theboringest wrote:Man if that 160-169 drop holds some medians are going to get wrecked.


Could almost become a bad thing for high scorers honestly. Considering its medians schools like NYU could end up eating the loss and spreading money to 160s as opposed to giving out $$$$ to fewer high 170s.

If the goal is median maintenance it be may better not to "waste" money on a single higher score which won't provide much benefit.

Don't ruin this for me


Eh, the other side of that is that schools may want to make sure they can maintain their median by attracting higher scorers and offering them MORE money with hopes that more money will outweigh offers from HYS.

User avatar
sorence

Bronze
Posts: 357
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:43 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby sorence » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:52 pm

brinicolec wrote:
NotAGolfer wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
theboringest wrote:Man if that 160-169 drop holds some medians are going to get wrecked.


Could almost become a bad thing for high scorers honestly. Considering its medians schools like NYU could end up eating the loss and spreading money to 160s as opposed to giving out $$$$ to fewer high 170s.

If the goal is median maintenance it be may better not to "waste" money on a single higher score which won't provide much benefit.

Don't ruin this for me


Eh, the other side of that is that schools may want to make sure they can maintain their median by attracting higher scorers and offering them MORE money with hopes that more money will outweigh offers from HYS.


plz yes

dclaw93

Bronze
Posts: 182
Joined: Fri May 27, 2016 9:44 am

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby dclaw93 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:02 pm

FYI this: ==error==/2016-2 ... of-1-5-17/ breaks the score data (so far) down further.

Looks like all the increase in the 170-174 range is coming from 170 scorers being way up (+58%).

Keilz

Gold
Posts: 2318
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:35 am

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Keilz » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:08 pm

dclaw93 wrote:FYI this: ==error==/2016-2 ... of-1-5-17/ breaks the score data (so far) down further.

Looks like all the increase in the 170-174 range is coming from 170 scorers being way up (+58%).


Two things I wonder about:

Was a score of 169/171 not possible on a recent LSAT making the particular score of a 170 more likely?

These are from applicants, not just LSAC regarding LSAT, correct? So I'm sure a lot of people who just got their scores back haven't handed in apps yet.

I'm so thankful to MS9 that we have this data though :)

bloomsday

Bronze
Posts: 106
Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:56 pm

.

Postby bloomsday » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:08 pm

.
Last edited by bloomsday on Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Rubbishdump

Bronze
Posts: 315
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:16 am

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Rubbishdump » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:17 pm

dclaw93 wrote:FYI this: ==error==/2016-2 ... of-1-5-17/ breaks the score data (so far) down further.

Looks like all the increase in the 170-174 range is coming from 170 scorers being way up (+58%).

So, 170-174 range is up from last year? Yikes. Not the news I wanted to hear. Is this updated with Dec data now?

User avatar
Thelaw23

Silver
Posts: 791
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:23 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Thelaw23 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:19 pm

These stats don't contain a majority of the December LSAT takers though, right?

They could change everything.

User avatar
Stephylynette

Bronze
Posts: 352
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:04 am

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Stephylynette » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:25 pm

Can someone please explain what all these MS9 numbers mean??? Ya girl is confused. How would it affect someone with a low 60 score?

User avatar
pleasesendhelp

Bronze
Posts: 401
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:28 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby pleasesendhelp » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:44 am

Stephylynette wrote:Can someone please explain what all these MS9 numbers mean??? Ya girl is confused. How would it affect someone with a low 60 score?


To sum it up, if your LSAT is at or slightly below the school's median, you're likely to see a boost in your admissions chances because there are less higher LSAT scores to go around. In conjunction with lower # of applicants, less high LSAT scores means better chances for those below 174 at schools outside of HYS. Opposite is true for those with 174(+) at HYS.

I think that a low 160 will perform as expected or slightly better. TBH I don't think these numbers have as significant an impact as we might think. Probably affects individuals on the borderline of acceptance/denial most. The data also does not contain any of the December test scores, and from what I've seen, all the missing 174+ scores have returned.

Rubbishdump

Bronze
Posts: 315
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:16 am

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Rubbishdump » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:48 am

pleasesendhelp wrote:
Stephylynette wrote:Can someone please explain what all these MS9 numbers mean??? Ya girl is confused. How would it affect someone with a low 60 score?


To sum it up, if your LSAT is at or slightly below the school's median, you're likely to see a boost in your admissions chances because there are less higher LSAT scores to go around. In conjunction with lower # of applicants, less high LSAT scores means better chances for those below 174 at schools outside of HYS. Opposite is true for those with 174(+) at HYS.

I think that a low 160 will perform as expected or slightly better. TBH I don't think these numbers have as significant an impact as we might think. Probably affects individuals on the borderline of acceptance/denial most. The data also does not contain any of the December test scores, and from what I've seen, all the missing 174+ scores have returned.

Hopefully this means mid to high 160s will perform better than expected then.

Keilz

Gold
Posts: 2318
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:35 am

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Keilz » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:50 am

We should have a speculation/conspiracy theory board

User avatar
proteinshake

Gold
Posts: 4645
Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:20 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby proteinshake » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:29 am

this is the cycle everyone gets into their reaches

User avatar
brinicolec

Gold
Posts: 4480
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:09 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby brinicolec » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:03 am

proteinshake wrote:this is the cycle everyone gets into their reaches



don't jinx us!!!!

dg1090

New
Posts: 38
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:26 am

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby dg1090 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:42 am

bloomsday wrote:
dclaw93 wrote:FYI this: ==error==/2016-2 ... of-1-5-17/ breaks the score data (so far) down further.

Looks like all the increase in the 170-174 range is coming from 170 scorers being way up (+58%).


I think there have to be mistakes in this, though. Now it's saying the number of 180s is 15, whereas in the update last month there were 22. I don't see how they could've possibly gone down.


That's a really good point. Numbers are actually weird for Aa lot of the brackets.

User avatar
pretzeltime

Gold
Posts: 1993
Joined: Sat May 07, 2016 6:57 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby pretzeltime » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:47 am

dg1090 wrote:
bloomsday wrote:
dclaw93 wrote:FYI this: ==error==/2016-2 ... of-1-5-17/ breaks the score data (so far) down further.

Looks like all the increase in the 170-174 range is coming from 170 scorers being way up (+58%).


I think there have to be mistakes in this, though. Now it's saying the number of 180s is 15, whereas in the update last month there were 22. I don't see how they could've possibly gone down.


That's a really good point. Numbers are actually weird for Aa lot of the brackets.


Paging numbers geek Jeeves.................

Is this new set of data still as whacked as the last one?

User avatar
R. Jeeves

Gold
Posts: 1980
Joined: Tue May 14, 2013 7:54 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby R. Jeeves » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:54 am

pretzeltime wrote:Paging numbers geek Jeeves.................

Is this new set of data still as whacked as the last one?

So based on the comparison between the % changes for each score and those for each score band, it looks like this set of % changes was calculated as (Current#-Previous#)/Previous# ... which is correct.

But idk how to explain results like the # of 180s dropping from 22 to 15

eta: but Mr. MS9 has said before:
Every year there are a few weird percentage results, and every years LSAC has an explanation for them fyi (different dates compared, different metric, etc). So *likely* they aren't as weird as they seem
Last edited by R. Jeeves on Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Thomas Hagan, ESQ.

Silver
Posts: 1224
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:55 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:13 pm

proteinshake wrote:this is the cycle everyone gets into their reaches


I have 2 sets of reaches, which one are you talking about?? :D :D

1. Will name my firstborn child the name of the school/worse chances than my winning the megamillion lottery/why did I even apply here??? (HSCCN)
2. Regular reach school.

Keilz

Gold
Posts: 2318
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:35 am

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Keilz » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:23 pm

Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:
proteinshake wrote:this is the cycle everyone gets into their reaches


I have 2 sets of reaches, which one are you talking about?? :D :D

1. Will name my firstborn child the name of the school/worse chances than my winning the megamillion lottery/why did I even apply here??? (HSCCN)
2. Regular reach school.


My reaches are Columbia and Chicago. NYU, which I didn't initially think of as a reach, has yet to get back to me :( I would be happier to get into there than my traditional "reaches" as I don't even have my hopes set that high on them

Pozzo

Gold
Posts: 1907
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:36 pm

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby Pozzo » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:29 pm

R. Jeeves wrote:
pretzeltime wrote:Paging numbers geek Jeeves.................

Is this new set of data still as whacked as the last one?

So based on the comparison between the % changes for each score and those for each score band, it looks like this set of % changes was calculated as (Current#-Previous#)/Previous# ... which is correct.

But idk how to explain results like the # of 180s dropping from 22 to 15

eta: but Mr. MS9 has said before:
Every year there are a few weird percentage results, and every years LSAC has an explanation for them fyi (different dates compared, different metric, etc). So *likely* they aren't as weird as they seem


There are a number of other drops: 169 (507 to 323!), 171, 174, 176

Will be interested to see if an explanation is offered.

User avatar
ashrice13

Gold
Posts: 1793
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:30 am

Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants - psychopaths & conceded ponies welcome

Postby ashrice13 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:30 pm

Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:
proteinshake wrote:this is the cycle everyone gets into their reaches


I have 2 sets of reaches, which one are you talking about?? :D :D

1. Will name my firstborn child the name of the school/worse chances than my winning the megamillion lottery/why did I even apply here??? (HSCCN)
2. Regular reach school.


My thoughts every single time I go to the Harvard thread.



Return to “Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists?

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests