TLS c/o 2020 - In #Squad We Trust

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Postby Thelaw23 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:23 pm

Heads up - no perspective law student should go into the Vale of Tears thread in the Legal Employment section. So scary. I regret going on it so much.

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Postby ashrice13 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:54 pm

Anyone planning on going to the Boston LSAC forum? I've seen mixed reviews about the helpfulness of these forums on here.

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Postby btruj777 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:55 pm

Thelaw23 wrote:Heads up - no perspective law student should go into the Vale of Tears thread in the Legal Employment section. So scary. I regret going on it so much.



Reads Post. Immediately goes to check thread. (after posting this)

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Postby Thelaw23 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:57 pm

btruj777 wrote:
Thelaw23 wrote:Heads up - no perspective law student should go into the Vale of Tears thread in the Legal Employment section. So scary. I regret going on it so much.



Reads Post. Immediately goes to check thread. (after posting this)



Give half a day for both your blood pressure and doubt about T14s to fall back to normal

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Postby btruj777 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:19 pm

Thelaw23 wrote:
btruj777 wrote:
Thelaw23 wrote:Heads up - no perspective law student should go into the Vale of Tears thread in the Legal Employment section. So scary. I regret going on it so much.



Reads Post. Immediately goes to check thread. (after posting this)



Give half a day for both your blood pressure and doubt about T14s to fall back to normal



Whats you take on those 3Ls on there? Like are we all doomed to fail EVEN at a T6? Something is wrong.

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Postby Chipotle85 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:24 pm

Probably a really dumb question but I'll ask anyway. On my LSN when it shows you the % that was wait listed is it assumed that these people were ultimately rejected? If it says for example 3 people got in, 17 wait listed and 10 were rejected it gives you a 10% to get in but that seems to assume all 17 people that were wait listed were rejected. Appreciate any input.

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Postby Thelaw23 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:26 pm

btruj777 wrote:
Thelaw23 wrote:
btruj777 wrote:
Thelaw23 wrote:Heads up - no perspective law student should go into the Vale of Tears thread in the Legal Employment section. So scary. I regret going on it so much.



Reads Post. Immediately goes to check thread. (after posting this)



Give half a day for both your blood pressure and doubt about T14s to fall back to normal



Whats you take on those 3Ls on there? Like are we all doomed to fail EVEN at a T6? Something is wrong.



I was going to post that question somewhere too...

Maybe that thread is just the unluckiest of the unluckiest in the T14? Like people who just constantly mess up interviews, are the bottom of their class, or send in resumes written in crayon?

Frankly, I expected that even if at the bottom your class at a T14 there should still be ample opportunities.

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Postby btruj777 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:32 pm

I was going to say I think so too. Like the whole thing with reviews and stuff right? You only really hear about those with bad experiences so it cannot be representative of the whole. But at that level, these seem like pretty top notch people, I mean they are on TLS!!!

But are we going to bet three years of our lives an about 10 years of bet on the fact that we MAY have some quality they do not?

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Postby forum_user » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:34 pm

Chipotle85 wrote:Probably a really dumb question but I'll ask anyway. On my LSN when it shows you the % that was wait listed is it assumed that these people were ultimately rejected? If it says for example 3 people got in, 17 wait listed and 10 were rejected it gives you a 10% to get in but that seems to assume all 17 people that were wait listed were rejected. Appreciate any input.

I think most people on LSN who do get in from the waitlist would probably update it as such, and that would be considered an acceptance for the purposes of the percentage.

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Postby Thelaw23 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:37 pm

btruj777 wrote:I was going to say I think so too. Like the whole thing with reviews and stuff right? You only really hear about those with bad experiences so it cannot be representative of the whole. But at that level, these seem like pretty top notch people, I mean they are on TLS!!!

But are we going to bet three years of our lives an about 10 years of bet on the fact that we MAY have some quality they do not?


I think the fact that 3-6 months of finding a good job after graduating seems like a complete disaster for them is indicative that things aren't THAT bad. They're much worse in other careers, I think.

Most of them in that thread that came out of T14 seem to eventually find a job, though.

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Postby Dodocogon » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:59 pm

Watched oral arguments and had lunch with the Kansas Supreme Court justices today, was a pretty interesting experience. Nothing groundbreaking but was nice to talk with them.

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Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:16 pm

I'm gaining momentum on ps but every time I get somewhere I get hit with severe loathing of what I just wrote. PSs in general just innately feel douchey to me

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Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:I'm gaining momentum on ps but every time I get somewhere I get hit with severe loathing of what I just wrote. PSs in general just innately feel douchey to me

I felt the same way. Glad I'm not alone!

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Postby btruj777 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:48 pm

NotAGolfer wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:I'm gaining momentum on ps but every time I get somewhere I get hit with severe loathing of what I just wrote. PSs in general just innately feel douchey to me

I felt the same way. Glad I'm not alone!



Guys one of the things that helped me the most is this


http://www.law.uchicago.edu/alumni/maga ... irownwords

It seems to be the case that these PS tend to answer why law school is the next logical step

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Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:52 pm

It was actually reading those that made me feel more icky about PSs. They have this like dirty, formulaic feeling of being a glorified cover letter. I get why it's like that though.

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Postby Assasindowntheavenue » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:57 pm

btruj777 wrote:
NotAGolfer wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:I'm gaining momentum on ps but every time I get somewhere I get hit with severe loathing of what I just wrote. PSs in general just innately feel douchey to me

I felt the same way. Glad I'm not alone!



Guys one of the things that helped me the most is this


http://www.law.uchicago.edu/alumni/maga ... irownwords

It seems to be the case that these PS tend to answer why law school is the next logical step



I read these when writing my PS and they helped my confidence and stopped my overthinking. Did anyone else think these essays were sort of....weak for such a highly ranked school as UChi? In that they were sort of cookie cutter/on the overdone side (9/11, injured athlete, etc)? Not to say that my PS was crazy good, but I was surprised when I read these as the school's examples, though I do think they helped me feel less nervous and write a better PS.

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Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:04 pm

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:
btruj777 wrote:
NotAGolfer wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:I'm gaining momentum on ps but every time I get somewhere I get hit with severe loathing of what I just wrote. PSs in general just innately feel douchey to me

I felt the same way. Glad I'm not alone!



Guys one of the things that helped me the most is this


http://www.law.uchicago.edu/alumni/maga ... irownwords

It seems to be the case that these PS tend to answer why law school is the next logical step



I read these when writing my PS and they helped my confidence and stopped my overthinking. Did anyone else think these essays were sort of....weak for such a highly ranked school as UChi? In that they were sort of cookie cutter/on the overdone side (9/11, injured athlete, etc)? Not to say that my PS was crazy good, but I was surprised when I read these as the school's examples, though I do think they helped me feel less nervous and write a better PS.



Yes







Then I realized that these (probably) all had 172s to go along with it

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Postby NotAGolfer » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:08 pm

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:
btruj777 wrote:
NotAGolfer wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:I'm gaining momentum on ps but every time I get somewhere I get hit with severe loathing of what I just wrote. PSs in general just innately feel douchey to me

I felt the same way. Glad I'm not alone!



Guys one of the things that helped me the most is this


http://www.law.uchicago.edu/alumni/maga ... irownwords

It seems to be the case that these PS tend to answer why law school is the next logical step



I read these when writing my PS and they helped my confidence and stopped my overthinking. Did anyone else think these essays were sort of....weak for such a highly ranked school as UChi? In that they were sort of cookie cutter/on the overdone side (9/11, injured athlete, etc)? Not to say that my PS was crazy good, but I was surprised when I read these as the school's examples, though I do think they helped me feel less nervous and write a better PS.

Yeah I read these too and had some way over-the-top drafts because of it. Ended up trashing those because they didn't feel genuine. I just did my best to write something honest and entertaining that spoke to the "why law school" question. But I still ended up hating it because I read it and edited it TOO MANY TIMES lol

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Postby Assasindowntheavenue » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:29 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
Assasindowntheavenue wrote:
btruj777 wrote:
NotAGolfer wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:I'm gaining momentum on ps but every time I get somewhere I get hit with severe loathing of what I just wrote. PSs in general just innately feel douchey to me

I felt the same way. Glad I'm not alone!



Guys one of the things that helped me the most is this


http://www.law.uchicago.edu/alumni/maga ... irownwords

It seems to be the case that these PS tend to answer why law school is the next logical step



I read these when writing my PS and they helped my confidence and stopped my overthinking. Did anyone else think these essays were sort of....weak for such a highly ranked school as UChi? In that they were sort of cookie cutter/on the overdone side (9/11, injured athlete, etc)? Not to say that my PS was crazy good, but I was surprised when I read these as the school's examples, though I do think they helped me feel less nervous and write a better PS.



Yes







Then I realized that these (probably) all had 172s to go along with it


Yeah the would explain it lol.

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Postby Assasindowntheavenue » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:33 pm

NotAGolfer wrote:
Assasindowntheavenue wrote:
btruj777 wrote:
NotAGolfer wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:I'm gaining momentum on ps but every time I get somewhere I get hit with severe loathing of what I just wrote. PSs in general just innately feel douchey to me

I felt the same way. Glad I'm not alone!



Guys one of the things that helped me the most is this


http://www.law.uchicago.edu/alumni/maga ... irownwords

It seems to be the case that these PS tend to answer why law school is the next logical step



I read these when writing my PS and they helped my confidence and stopped my overthinking. Did anyone else think these essays were sort of....weak for such a highly ranked school as UChi? In that they were sort of cookie cutter/on the overdone side (9/11, injured athlete, etc)? Not to say that my PS was crazy good, but I was surprised when I read these as the school's examples, though I do think they helped me feel less nervous and write a better PS.

Yeah I read these too and had some way over-the-top drafts because of it. Ended up trashing those because they didn't feel genuine. I just did my best to write something honest and entertaining that spoke to the "why law school" question. But I still ended up hating it because I read it and edited it TOO MANY TIMES lol


Had that same exact experience lol.

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Postby 20170322 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:04 pm

OK, so I'm touring a t14 next week that I have not yet heard back from-- what's the deal on requesting a stipend?

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Postby guynourmin » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:23 pm

SweetTort wrote:OK, so I'm touring a t14 next week that I have not yet heard back from-- what's the deal on requesting a stipend?


I would be surprised if any was offered pre-admission.

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Postby 20170322 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:36 pm

guybourdin wrote:
SweetTort wrote:OK, so I'm touring a t14 next week that I have not yet heard back from-- what's the deal on requesting a stipend?


I would be surprised if any was offered pre-admission.



So it'd hurt me if I asked, yeah? This is what I expected.

Another t14 that I will likely have been accepted to is on the way. Is it ethical to tour both and get a stipend from one of them?

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Postby guynourmin » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:04 pm

SweetTort wrote:
guybourdin wrote:
SweetTort wrote:OK, so I'm touring a t14 next week that I have not yet heard back from-- what's the deal on requesting a stipend?


I would be surprised if any was offered pre-admission.



So it'd hurt me if I asked, yeah? This is what I expected.

Another t14 that I will likely have been accepted to is on the way. Is it ethical to tour both and get a stipend from one of them?


I'm not sure if it would hurt you - it probably wouldn't - but I just can't imagine they'd give you anything and on the off chance it could hurt you, I just wouldn't ask.

It's not unethical to visit a second school on the trip. Definitely do it if you have time. (If they're tracking your gas and you drive 2 hrs out of the way, then maybe itd be unethical to try and get them to pay for the detour, but just don't do that? you're fine tho!)

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Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:30 pm

Iirc schools like cls and Nyu schedule asw at the same time so that people can tour both



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