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2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:37 pm
by xylocarp
Last cycle, the infinitely awesome lawschool22 created spreadsheets for the top 14 law schools (see 2013-2014 Admissions Results: Spreadsheet Compendium thread). These spreadsheets provided valuable statistical analysis of TLSers' application info. He first posted the spreadsheets mid-cycle in November, and they still ended up being super helpful sources of information and analysis. So this cycle, when everybody starts making c/o 2018 applicants threads, let's put links to the new spreadsheets in the OPs and keep them updated right from the start! Just open the spreadsheets for the schools you’re applying to and enter your stats in the second tab. The more data, the better the analysis!

Please don’t edit anything other than your own line of info, including sorting the data or filtering it in any way! If you want to do those things, go to file → make a copy, and then do whatever you want to your copied version.

2014-2015 TLS Admissions Spreadsheets

Yale
Harvard
Stanford
Columbia
Chicago
NYU
Penn
UVA
Berkeley
Michigan
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Georgetown

Re: 2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets - link these in your OPs!

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:52 am
by xylocarp
Bumping this. Guys, please let me know about any issues or problems with the spreadsheets here.

Re: 2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets - link these in your OPs!

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:06 am
by Gray
Just looking at the spreadsheet fields... What do you think defines Average or Above Average softs?

Below Average would likely be non-URM K-JD with little work exp. or community involvement, but what takes someone from average to above average, if they aren't URM and don't have military experience?

Re: 2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets - link these in your OPs!

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:16 am
by xylocarp
smccgrey wrote:Just looking at the spreadsheet fields... What do you think defines Average or Above Average softs?

Below Average would likely be non-URM K-JD with little work exp. or community involvement, but what takes someone from average to above average, if they aren't URM and don't have military experience?

This was discussed a lot in last year's spreadsheets thread, and the general consensus was that it's very, very difficult to define.

Here's one list that was floating around:

iamgeorgebush wrote:"Highly Unique" : Rhodes, founder of a nonprofit/startup, chef at a Michelin starred restaurant, NFL player, published novelist, etc.
"Above Average" : Marshall/Gates/Fulbright/Truman, MBB Consulting/bulge bracket Investment Banking, production assistant at CNN, paralegal at the ACLU, software engineer at a venture-funded startup, officer of a state or national student organization, etc.
"Average" : student government, student newspaper, neighborhood outreach, fund raising, officer at a student club or two, etc. (some combination of at least three of these)
"Below Average" : one or two of "average"
"Weak" : few to no ECs/internships

But obviously it's not comprehensive and there was a lot of disagreement about it, so take that with a grain of salt.

Re: 2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets - link these in your OPs!

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:18 am
by Winston1984
Where does solid WE fall in that, you think? Not prestigious, but not basic either.

Re: 2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets - link these in your OPs!

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:22 am
by xylocarp
Winston1984 wrote:Where does solid WE fall in that, you think? Not prestigious, but not basic either.

Probably somewhere between average and above average? assuming it's several years. but add onto that any other stuff you're doing/have done and as a whole it probably ends up above average. add onto that like... U Phoenix undergrad, and you're probably solidly @ average.

edit: I am by no means the arbiter of softs quality, so please anyone who knows more chime in. And take everything I say with a grain of salt, because I'm just guessing based on other stuff I've read here.

Re: 2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets - link these in your OPs!

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:29 am
by Gray
Winston1984 wrote:Where does solid WE fall in that, you think? Not prestigious, but not basic either.


Yeah this is my question, really. My work experience is not basic at all and I've advanced a lot since I started, but it's not legal at all, and it's only unofficially managerial.

I guess it might depend on the school - NU for example might see substantive, career oriented work experience as an above average soft, but that might only be considered average somewhere else.

Re: 2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets - link these in your OPs!

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:31 pm
by everything_bagel
Hey xylo, could you add a column to the spreadsheets, and possibly also a calculation, for submission of Why X essays? Blueberry suggested this might help us track YP and it would definitely be interesting. Mmm, data...

Happy to help if you think this is a good idea/need it.

Re: 2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets - link these in your OPs!

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:12 am
by xylocarp
everything_bagel wrote:Hey xylo, could you add a column to the spreadsheets, and possibly also a calculation, for submission of Why X essays? Blueberry suggested this might help us track YP and it would definitely be interesting. Mmm, data...

Happy to help if you think this is a good idea/need it.

I think this is an awesome idea and I PMed e_b about it! If anyone else is a Google spreadsheet expert please PM me

Re: 2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 1:19 am
by lawschool22
Glad to see this live on and—hopefully—continue to be useful!

Re: 2014-2015 Admissions Spreadsheets

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:30 pm
by tealeaves12
updated all of my results. will try to remember to do the same when i hear back from various waitlists/held/reserve, etc.
very cool idea.