University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Nucky » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:55 pm

Do you guys think Illinois will regain its top 25ish status in the near future? I know that scandal knocked them down the rankings pretty hard but I haven't seen any speculation as to what their future holds.

Their biglaw numbers are better than most schools between their current ranking and the T-14.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Ditka747 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:57 pm

Nucky wrote:Do you guys think Illinois will regain its top 25ish status in the near future? I know that scandal knocked them down the rankings pretty hard but I haven't seen any speculation as to what their future holds.

Their biglaw numbers are better than most schools between their current ranking and the T-14.



https://illinois.edu/emailer/files/4880 ... s_2014.pdf

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Nucky » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:01 pm

Ditka747 wrote:
Nucky wrote:Do you guys think Illinois will regain its top 25ish status in the near future? I know that scandal knocked them down the rankings pretty hard but I haven't seen any speculation as to what their future holds.

Their biglaw numbers are better than most schools between their current ranking and the T-14.



https://illinois.edu/emailer/files/4880 ... s_2014.pdf



Thanks for the link! Seems like this may be a golden window for applicants to gain an acceptance and/or money that they normally would not have received.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby mx23250 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:05 pm

Nucky wrote:Do you guys think Illinois will regain its top 25ish status in the near future? I know that scandal knocked them down the rankings pretty hard but I haven't seen any speculation as to what their future holds.

Their biglaw numbers are better than most schools between their current ranking and the T-14.


I'm sure they'll be climbing over the coming years, but it's hard to say how much. With the high $$ schollys they're throwing out and impressive biglaw numbers, they may be able to retain/strengthen medians while most will likely continue to see their medians drop, at least in the short term. I have a feeling they have a good shot at increasing their rank at least a few places each year. They're throwing out scholly $$ similar to their T40-50 peers but with biglaw employment data worthy of T25.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Nucky » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:09 pm

Well, if nothing else, there is a Cracker Barrel close to the school. What else could you want?

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Attax » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:14 pm

Nucky wrote:Well, if nothing else, there is a Cracker Barrel close to the school. What else could you want?


An update on my status?

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Postby Psy123 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:22 pm

Ditka747 wrote:
Nucky wrote:Do you guys think Illinois will regain its top 25ish status in the near future? I know that scandal knocked them down the rankings pretty hard but I haven't seen any speculation as to what their future holds.

Their biglaw numbers are better than most schools between their current ranking and the T-14.



https://illinois.edu/emailer/files/4880 ... s_2014.pdf


Yep got that email today as well, good to see that the school is still performing well aside from the USNews rankings drop

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Nucky » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:34 pm

Attax wrote:
Nucky wrote:Well, if nothing else, there is a Cracker Barrel close to the school. What else could you want?


An update on my status?


Now you're just being greedy...

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby pagenotfound » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:45 pm

Nucky wrote:Do you guys think Illinois will regain its top 25ish status in the near future? I know that scandal knocked them down the rankings pretty hard but I haven't seen any speculation as to what their future holds.

Their biglaw numbers are better than most schools between their current ranking and the T-14.


I do not really think they will climb up to T25 recently. Biglaw is not enough to get the higher ranking, see Fordham. They have to do something for the medians. However, I am sure they deserve the T25. This year, they may get a 30~35.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Attax » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:30 pm

Finally. In, and with decent $. $23,000/year. Not enough to get me to attend, but a good start.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Nucky » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:04 pm

Attax wrote:Finally. In, and with decent $. $23,000/year. Not enough to get me to attend, but a good start.


Nice. Congrats.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Chardee_MacDennis » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:03 pm

pagenotfound wrote:
Nucky wrote:Do you guys think Illinois will regain its top 25ish status in the near future? I know that scandal knocked them down the rankings pretty hard but I haven't seen any speculation as to what their future holds.

Their biglaw numbers are better than most schools between their current ranking and the T-14.


I do not really think they will climb up to T25 recently. Biglaw is not enough to get the higher ranking, see Fordham. They have to do something for the medians. However, I am sure they deserve the T25. This year, they may get a 30~35.


I agree that the data might not be enough to bring the school back to T25-ish, but I conversely don't think there's much room to fall, especially with the somewhat-promising employment data. The sentiment around here (at least with 3Ls, the class to experience both big drops) is that the first drop was in response to the scandal, but that the second drop was more punitive than anything.

My feeling has always been that until this starts to affect employment numbers, the rankings drop is almost irrelevant. That shouldn't be the most important factor in your decision to attend.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Chardee_MacDennis » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:05 pm

Attax wrote:Finally. In, and with decent $. $23,000/year. Not enough to get me to attend, but a good start.


What's your GPA? Resident or non-resident?

A resident classmate of mine was able to negotiate 75% with similar numbers.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby rosebowlchamps100 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:36 pm

Was invited to RSVP for an ASD when they visit the closest city to me, so I did so. Excited to learn more about the school.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Attax » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:38 pm

Chardee_MacDennis wrote:
Attax wrote:Finally. In, and with decent $. $23,000/year. Not enough to get me to attend, but a good start.


What's your GPA? Resident or non-resident?

A resident classmate of mine was able to negotiate 75% with similar numbers.


<25th. Non-resident but grew up in Illinois.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Volake » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:36 pm

I thought the second drop had to do with bad employment numbers from 2011. The first drop was "punitive", if either were, because that was where the academic reputation rating took a big hit. Correct me if my understanding is wrong.
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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby sue4398 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:49 pm

In this week with decently high 25k/year offer. Stats a bit above both medians. In-state. Went there for undergrad.. not really sure about going back, but it's a good option.

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Postby Ricky-Bobby » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:48 pm

sue4398 wrote:In this week with decently high 25k/year offer. Stats a bit above both medians. In-state. Went there for undergrad.. not really sure about going back, but it's a good option.


You'll be able to easily negotiate that up if you want.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Ricky-Bobby » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:29 pm

bigfeature wrote:
Ricky-Bobby wrote:
sue4398 wrote:In this week with decently high 25k/year offer. Stats a bit above both medians. In-state. Went there for undergrad.. not really sure about going back, but it's a good option.


You'll be able to easily negotiate that up if you want.


A week has passed and I havn't heard anything from the school about the negotiation.
Maybe I was too early.


Oh yeah, you should have waited a bit. I'm sure they really want those above the medians, though, so you can probably cop another round of negotiations a bit later on.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby pagenotfound » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:27 am

Volake wrote:I thought the second drop had to do with bad employment numbers from 2011. The first drop was "punitive", if either were, because that was where the academic reputation rating took a big hit. Correct me if my understanding is wrong.

I agree. 2011's employment data is terrible.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby sue4398 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:39 am

Ricky-Bobby wrote:
sue4398 wrote:In this week with decently high 25k/year offer. Stats a bit above both medians. In-state. Went there for undergrad.. not really sure about going back, but it's a good option.


You'll be able to easily negotiate that up if you want.



I hope so. So is the consensus to wait another few weeks until starting negotiations? I feel kind of like an ass calling (emailing?) them a week or two after getting my initial offer and asking for more. I'd like to wait to hear back from my last few schools, but I'm starting to get impatient.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Chardee_MacDennis » Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:19 am

pagenotfound wrote:
Volake wrote:I thought the second drop had to do with bad employment numbers from 2011. The first drop was "punitive", if either were, because that was where the academic reputation rating took a big hit. Correct me if my understanding is wrong.

I agree. 2011's employment data is terrible.


2011 employment stats are bad for every school , so the drop was probably a combination of the two, but UIUC dropped much further relative to its peers, like ND and WUSTL.

Anyway, you shouldn't be basing your decision largely due to the rankings.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby Attax » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:58 am

Ricky-Bobby wrote:
bigfeature wrote:
Ricky-Bobby wrote:
sue4398 wrote:In this week with decently high 25k/year offer. Stats a bit above both medians. In-state. Went there for undergrad.. not really sure about going back, but it's a good option.


You'll be able to easily negotiate that up if you want.


A week has passed and I havn't heard anything from the school about the negotiation.
Maybe I was too early.


Oh yeah, you should have waited a bit. I'm sure they really want those above the medians, though, so you can probably cop another round of negotiations a bit later on.


I'll give it a shot, given my LSAT. UIUC would be great for negotiating against WUSTL I'd assume.

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Re: University of Illinois UIUC c/o '17 Applicants (13-14 cycle)

Postby The Dark Kite » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:58 pm

Nucky wrote:Do you guys think Illinois will regain its top 25ish status in the near future? I know that scandal knocked them down the rankings pretty hard but I haven't seen any speculation as to what their future holds.

Their biglaw numbers are better than most schools between their current ranking and the T-14.

I'm confident. This is a likely choice for me in the fall.




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