USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby zman » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:07 pm

Lebrarian_Booker wrote:
zman wrote:They are waiting for more withdrawals so they can beef up their acceptance rate.


Hmmm...don't think that's how it works. Once someone applies they are an applicant, whether they withdraw or not.

So:

admits/applicants = acceptance rate

"applicants" is not affected by withdrawals

this means "admits" will have the same effect on acceptance rate whether you do it now or later


You are missing the point.. IF someone they have not yet made a decision on withdraws and commits to another school they will reject him even though his stats merit an acceptance. SO let's say someone has a 169 and 3.76 and NYU accepts him and he committs to them on the spot before USC made a decision. USC will likely reject later because there is zero chance he will go to USC so why accept him and hurt your acceptance rate?

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Lebrarian_Booker » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:10 pm

zman wrote:
Lebrarian_Booker wrote:
zman wrote:They are waiting for more withdrawals so they can beef up their acceptance rate.


Hmmm...don't think that's how it works. Once someone applies they are an applicant, whether they withdraw or not.

So:

admits/applicants = acceptance rate

"applicants" is not affected by withdrawals

this means "admits" will have the same effect on acceptance rate whether you do it now or later


You are missing the point.. IF someone they have not yet made a decision on withdraws and commits to another school they will reject him even though his stats merit an acceptance. SO let's say someone has a 169 and 3.76 and NYU accepts him and he committs to them on the spot before USC made a decision. USC will likely reject later because there is zero chance he will go to USC so why accept him and hurt your acceptance rate?



You can't both withdraw and be rejected.

That's like getting fired after you already quit.

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby zman » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:14 pm

Lebrarian_Booker wrote:
zman wrote:
Lebrarian_Booker wrote:
zman wrote:They are waiting for more withdrawals so they can beef up their acceptance rate.


Hmmm...don't think that's how it works. Once someone applies they are an applicant, whether they withdraw or not.

So:

admits/applicants = acceptance rate

"applicants" is not affected by withdrawals

this means "admits" will have the same effect on acceptance rate whether you do it now or later


You are missing the point.. IF someone they have not yet made a decision on withdraws and commits to another school they will reject him even though his stats merit an acceptance. SO let's say someone has a 169 and 3.76 and NYU accepts him and he committs to them on the spot before USC made a decision. USC will likely reject later because there is zero chance he will go to USC so why accept him and hurt your acceptance rate?



You can't both withdraw and be rejected.

That's like getting fired after you already quit.


yeah but that's what they do.

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby xJD2017x » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:17 pm

When is the next USC invite for accepted/interested students?

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Lebrarian_Booker » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:18 pm

zman wrote:
yeah but that's what they do.



I don't think they do...I don't think they're able to do that. Once your status in their system is "withdrawn" you aren't eligible for an admissions decision to be made on your file--your admissions decision is "withdrawn".

What makes you think that they do this?

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby zman » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:22 pm

Lebrarian_Booker wrote:
zman wrote:
yeah but that's what they do.



I don't think they do...I don't think they're able to do that. Once your status in their system is "withdrawn" you aren't eligible for an admissions decision to be made on your file--your admissions decision is "withdrawn".

What makes you think that they do this?


Just based on LSN for example, you see acceptance to higher ranked schools followed by rejections to lower ranked ones. There is other stuff.

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Lebrarian_Booker » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:27 pm

zman wrote:
Lebrarian_Booker wrote:
zman wrote:
yeah but that's what they do.



I don't think they do...I don't think they're able to do that. Once your status in their system is "withdrawn" you aren't eligible for an admissions decision to be made on your file--your admissions decision is "withdrawn".

What makes you think that they do this?


Just based on LSN for example, you see acceptance to higher ranked schools followed by rejections to lower ranked ones. There is other stuff.



Schools can game the rankings in many ways, but this isn't one of them.

By this logic, why wouldn't schools just reject everyone who withdraws at any point? Or just count all withdraws as rejections?

What you've seen on LSN may just be coincidence or explained by other factors, once you withdraw a school cannot pass an admission decision on you.

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby zman » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:30 pm

Lebrarian_Booker wrote:
zman wrote:
Lebrarian_Booker wrote:
zman wrote:
yeah but that's what they do.



I don't think they do...I don't think they're able to do that. Once your status in their system is "withdrawn" you aren't eligible for an admissions decision to be made on your file--your admissions decision is "withdrawn".

What makes you think that they do this?


Just based on LSN for example, you see acceptance to higher ranked schools followed by rejections to lower ranked ones. There is other stuff.



Schools can game the rankings in many ways, but this isn't one of them.

By this logic, why wouldn't schools just reject everyone who withdraws at any point? Or just count all withdraws as rejections?

What you've seen on LSN may just be coincidence or explained by other factors, once you withdraw a school cannot pass an admission decision on you.


I think the rejection comes before the withdrawal because they can assume you probably won't attend their schools.

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby yamsandmoreyams » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:52 pm

karmaman wrote:Hmmm, thats weird, I went through CR1 for about 2 weeks, then CR2 for 2 weeks, then changed to CR2 , 2/19 and been stuck since. I wonder if it makes a difference how/when you got there or just now that were both there were on par with eachother...i hate this wait, this is my 3rd year in applying and I mentioned that, so hopefully they feel pity on me and admit me ;) Ive gotten $$$ from similarly ranked Emory and GW already, but USC like other CA schools, seem to like the higher GPA's.


I've been stuck in CR2 since Jan 30th. I've got a 166 and a 3.45; really not enjoying all the California schools' obsession with high GPAs. I've gotten a decent amount of money from GW and UCI, but I was really hoping to get lucky with UCLA(waitlisted) or USC. I'm already studying for the June LSAT to try to get above a 166 in case things don't work out.
Applying for a 3rd year does not sound fun at all, good luck this time! I hope USC at least makes the wait worth it for some of us.

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby moneyinthestand » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:23 pm

Decision Finalized on 3/12. Any idea when I can expect to hear?

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby moneyinthestand » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:28 pm

Moonlight wrote:Is an email even coming?


From the "Application Complete" email:

Your application is now complete. Once the Admissions Committee begins the review process and a decision is made, we will notify you via postal mail. We cannot release decisions over the phone or by email.

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Lebrarian_Booker » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:26 pm

Got home. Checked mail. Still nothing.

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby bkegslounge » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:33 pm

Lebrarian_Booker wrote:Got home. Checked mail. Still nothing.

Same. We live to fight another day...

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby bnnh » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:12 pm

bkegslounge wrote:
Lebrarian_Booker wrote:Got home. Checked mail. Still nothing.

Same. We live to fight another day...


Me too. I just want to know so I can finally make a decision!

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby moneyinthestand » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:10 pm

bkegslounge wrote:
Lebrarian_Booker wrote:Got home. Checked mail. Still nothing.

Same. We live to fight another day...


Also nothing. I'm in Phoenix, so not far either.

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Moonlight » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:45 pm

San Francisco. Nothing either :/

Have a good Friday night! At least the hope stays alive for another night!

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby bcoco9292 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:07 pm

New York. Nothing either !

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Lebrarian_Booker » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:15 pm

bcoco9292 wrote:New York. Nothing either !


Minneapolis, for reference

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby awe208 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:03 am

Moonlight wrote:San Francisco. Nothing either :/

Have a good Friday night! At least the hope stays alive for another night!



Me two in SF

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Candy Wrappers » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:20 am

nothing.

in LA.

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Icecold62 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:46 am

Nothing, Seattle

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby bonerland » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:00 am

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby LoveforLaw341 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:32 am

I've accepted the fact that I will be rejected. I assume wait lists go out via email and I am a reverse splitter, so damn. That sucks. Lol Still nothing in the mail box though/mailing notation (San Bernardino county)

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby karmaman » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:39 pm

Do you guys think it would be good to send them an email/LOCI just mentioning how I have received substantial scholarships from peer schools, but I would choose SC over them in a heartbeat since I'm still under review? or would that be too much? I'm trying to figure out anyway I can bolster my app at this point before its too late....maybe send another LOR?

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Re: USC c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Candy Wrappers » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:15 pm

karmaman wrote:Do you guys think it would be good to send them an email/LOCI just mentioning how I have received substantial scholarships from peer schools, but I would choose SC over them in a heartbeat since I'm still under review? or would that be too much? I'm trying to figure out anyway I can bolster my app at this point before its too late....maybe send another LOR?


save all that for when you get WL.




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