SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby fnma2jd » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:41 pm

kalvano wrote:
fnma2jd wrote:
kalvano wrote:Your wish is my command. Ask me anything.


Being that you're non traditional and not k-jd. Do you ever wish you did PT, instead of FT, and worked through it or was it worth it for you to take COA loans out? Also, did you get a decent amount in scholarships and did it factor into your decision?


Nope, FT for me. No regrets. An additional year of school would have sucked, and my job wasn't anything I enjoyed or could have done during school.

I got about a 60% scholarship, and sure it factored in. SMU is stupidly expensive, but they do give out a lot of money. I definitely would not have attended at full price.


Obvously results vary but do you feel that, given your job opportunity and scholarships, that the loans are manageable and at a tolerable level?

I only ask because of your previous posts about choosing UT over SMU

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby Doctolaw » Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:53 pm

So y'all, it's Friday afternoon before a holiday weekend. I fully expect some of your phones to ring today!

Hoping for everyone waiting! :D

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby bound » Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:54 pm

Doctolaw wrote:So y'all, it's Friday afternoon before a holiday weekend. I fully expect some of your phones to ring today!

Hoping for everyone waiting! :D



Literally haven't left my phone all day!!!

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby fnma2jd » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:30 pm

everytime I login to the status checker I hear this...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby healthyman » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:04 pm

Status date change 1/17. My current status has gone blank.......

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby bound » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:07 pm

healthyman wrote:Status date change 1/17. My current status has gone blank.......



Ugh mine is still stuck at 1/6!!!

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby fnma2jd » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:27 pm

Austinbound wrote:
healthyman wrote:Status date change 1/17. My current status has gone blank.......



Ugh mine is still stuck at 1/6!!!

I'm surprised that they didn't look at your LSAT and auto admit with money. To quote Kalvano in last years thread "if you're a 164+, you could write about how much you enjoy murdering streetwalkers and you'd get in"

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby bound » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:36 pm

fnma2jd wrote:
Austinbound wrote:
healthyman wrote:Status date change 1/17. My current status has gone blank.......



Ugh mine is still stuck at 1/6!!!

I'm surprised that they didn't look at your LSAT and auto admit with money. To quote Kalvano in last years thread "if you're a 164+, you could write about how much you enjoy murdering streetwalkers and you'd get in"



Haha Idk about that but it sure would have been nice! Despite a high LSAT, SMU is still one of my top choices. I love Dallas. I'm just way too anxious.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby BVest » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:52 pm

fnma2jd wrote:
Austinbound wrote:
healthyman wrote:Status date change 1/17. My current status has gone blank.......



Ugh mine is still stuck at 1/6!!!

I'm surprised that they didn't look at your LSAT and auto admit with money. To quote Kalvano in last years thread "if you're a 164+, you could write about how much you enjoy murdering streetwalkers and you'd get in"


Obviously Craig James couldn't score above 163 then, because I heard that Craig James killed five hookers while at SMU (LinkRemoved) (undergrad).

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby kalvano » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:54 pm

fnma2jd wrote:
kalvano wrote:
fnma2jd wrote:
kalvano wrote:Your wish is my command. Ask me anything.


Being that you're non traditional and not k-jd. Do you ever wish you did PT, instead of FT, and worked through it or was it worth it for you to take COA loans out? Also, did you get a decent amount in scholarships and did it factor into your decision?


Nope, FT for me. No regrets. An additional year of school would have sucked, and my job wasn't anything I enjoyed or could have done during school.

I got about a 60% scholarship, and sure it factored in. SMU is stupidly expensive, but they do give out a lot of money. I definitely would not have attended at full price.


Obvously results vary but do you feel that, given your job opportunity and scholarships, that the loans are manageable and at a tolerable level?

I only ask because of your previous posts about choosing UT over SMU


Yes. But I would still choose UT if I could. There are just a lot more options available from UT.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby nouseforaname123 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:07 pm

fnma2jd wrote:
kalvano wrote:
fnma2jd wrote:
kalvano wrote:Your wish is my command. Ask me anything.


Being that you're non traditional and not k-jd. Do you ever wish you did PT, instead of FT, and worked through it or was it worth it for you to take COA loans out? Also, did you get a decent amount in scholarships and did it factor into your decision?


Nope, FT for me. No regrets. An additional year of school would have sucked, and my job wasn't anything I enjoyed or could have done during school.

I got about a 60% scholarship, and sure it factored in. SMU is stupidly expensive, but they do give out a lot of money. I definitely would not have attended at full price.


Obvously results vary but do you feel that, given your job opportunity and scholarships, that the loans are manageable and at a tolerable level?

I only ask because of your previous posts about choosing UT over SMU


I know you didn't direct this question at me, but I want to take a stab at it.

I'm a recent PT grad and about as close as one can get to being the poster child for the PT program. I was a non-trad, worked FT in a professional career, made law review and had a very successful OCI.

I worked through my first three years of law school, but had to quit to work as a Summer Associate for two firms during my last summer.

I think that the scholarships and income I was able to generate made it worth the extra year of school. I can't put an exact price on graduating law school debt-free, but one extra year of labor was a fair trade to me. Obviously, how you evaluate this trade-off depends on personal preference, which is to say that Kalvano's answer to your question is equally valid.

Finally, I don't think UT is a clearly better option once the cost difference gets to be around $75k in additional debt. Obviously, a lot of this depends on your personal tolerance for risk. UT ends up with much better employment outcomes for certain (most?) subsets of students. But those better employment outcomes for UT students don't exist across all subsets. This only means that the additional cost of UT is not warranted for certain subsets of students (the real problem is that it is almost impossible to predict if any particular student is going to be in the subset that should choose SMU). For example, the generic top 10% UT law review member with no interest in litigation who wants to end up in Dallas is going to work for essentially the same firm as her SMU counterpart.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby fnma2jd » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:44 pm

nouseforaname123 wrote:
I know you didn't direct this question at me, but I want to take a stab at it.

I'm a recent PT grad and about as close as one can get to being the poster child for the PT program. I was a non-trad, worked FT in a professional career, made law review and had a very successful OCI.

I worked through my first three years of law school, but had to quit to work as a Summer Associate for two firms during my last summer.

I think that the scholarships and income I was able to generate made it worth the extra year of school. I can't put an exact price on graduating law school debt-free, but one extra year of labor was a fair trade to me. Obviously, how you evaluate this trade-off depends on personal preference, which is to say that Kalvano's answer to your question is equally valid.

Finally, I don't think UT is a clearly better option once the cost difference gets to be around $75k in additional debt. Obviously, a lot of this depends on your personal tolerance for risk. UT ends up with much better employment outcomes for certain (most?) subsets of students. But those better employment outcomes for UT students don't exist across all subsets. This only means that the additional cost of UT is not warranted for certain subsets of students (the real problem is that it is almost impossible to predict if any particular student is going to be in the subset that should choose SMU). For example, the generic top 10% UT law review member with no interest in litigation who wants to end up in Dallas is going to work for essentially the same firm as her SMU counterpart.


Thanks, this actually answers alot of my PT questions. How much in scholarships did you have for PT and did you put some of your income toward tuition/debt while in school (outside of COA expenses)?

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby torresash14 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:31 pm

My status checker has updated from Complete to a blank on 1/17. Anyone else getting this?

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby nouseforaname123 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:37 pm

fnma2jd wrote:
nouseforaname123 wrote:
I know you didn't direct this question at me, but I want to take a stab at it.

I'm a recent PT grad and about as close as one can get to being the poster child for the PT program. I was a non-trad, worked FT in a professional career, made law review and had a very successful OCI.

I worked through my first three years of law school, but had to quit to work as a Summer Associate for two firms during my last summer.

I think that the scholarships and income I was able to generate made it worth the extra year of school. I can't put an exact price on graduating law school debt-free, but one extra year of labor was a fair trade to me. Obviously, how you evaluate this trade-off depends on personal preference, which is to say that Kalvano's answer to your question is equally valid.

Finally, I don't think UT is a clearly better option once the cost difference gets to be around $75k in additional debt. Obviously, a lot of this depends on your personal tolerance for risk. UT ends up with much better employment outcomes for certain (most?) subsets of students. But those better employment outcomes for UT students don't exist across all subsets. This only means that the additional cost of UT is not warranted for certain subsets of students (the real problem is that it is almost impossible to predict if any particular student is going to be in the subset that should choose SMU). For example, the generic top 10% UT law review member with no interest in litigation who wants to end up in Dallas is going to work for essentially the same firm as her SMU counterpart.


Thanks, this actually answers alot of my PT questions. How much in scholarships did you have for PT and did you put some of your income toward tuition/debt while in school (outside of COA expenses)?


Scholarship covered 1/3 tuition (but I applied really, really late probably ended up with lower scholly). My income covered rest of school expenses + some living expenses. Wife's income covered everything else. Things were tight the final year as I didn't generate my full income potential after quitting work to be a summer associate. Obviously, I had no choice but to quit work to transition to FT law.

The fourth year of law school sucks, but I'm happy with how it turned out. YMMV.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby healthyman » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:36 pm

torresash14 wrote:My status checker has updated from Complete to a blank on 1/17. Anyone else getting this?


In the same boat.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby bound » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:31 pm

healthyman wrote:
torresash14 wrote:My status checker has updated from Complete to a blank on 1/17. Anyone else getting this?


In the same boat.



Did you guys ever get an update?

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby fnma2jd » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:46 pm

Austinbound wrote:
healthyman wrote:
torresash14 wrote:My status checker has updated from Complete to a blank on 1/17. Anyone else getting this?


In the same boat.



Did you guys ever get an update?


I was wondering the same thing.

I'm starting to feel lame with how much I check this thread, LSN, and the status checker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby crchildress » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:48 pm

fnma2jd wrote:
Austinbound wrote:
healthyman wrote:
torresash14 wrote:My status checker has updated from Complete to a blank on 1/17. Anyone else getting this?


In the same boat.



Did you guys ever get an update?


I was wondering the same thing.

I'm starting to feel lame with how much I check this thread, LSN, and the status checker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A



Yeah I know how ya feel. I was like this last cycle, and I told myself I wouldn't be like that this go around... But here I am.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby healthyman » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:13 pm

This morning, my status changed back to "Application Completed."

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby bound » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:28 pm

healthyman wrote:This morning, my status changed back to "Application Completed."



How anticlimactic of them.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby sam13 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:31 pm

I'm still on "Application Completed" since 1/5. Womp.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby bound » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:36 pm

sam13 wrote:I'm still on "Application Completed" since 1/5. Womp.



Same. I don't think it ever changes to "in review" though.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby jts723 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:40 pm

Austinbound wrote:
sam13 wrote:I'm still on "Application Completed" since 1/5. Womp.



Same. I don't think it ever changes to "in review" though.

It does not.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby healthyman » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:44 pm

Well, all ED applicants will find out something by the end of next week.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby healthyman » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:49 pm

Current Status: Held for further review.




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