SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby BVest » Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:53 am

kalvano wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:So do you do one write-on for all three and list the journals in the order you want them or how does it work?


Yes. LR gets first pick, and then the other two have their choices. The calls usually start from LR on Saturday morning and everything is wrapped up by the following Wednesday.

It takes about 4-6 weeks to grade the write-on.


It may change year-to-year as to what day invites go out. This past summer the first calls went out on a Wednesday late afternoon (7/10). But, yeah that was about 6 weeks after write-on (which seems to occur over the weekend one week after finals end). I think LR was set by the next night but the other two took a few days longer as there was some trickle-down effect. (They overlapped invitations, so the LR kids were turning down International and S&T, opening up other places. Obviously LR has much higher yield for their invites).

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby deebanger » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:29 pm

deebanger wrote:
kalvano wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:How many firms go to SMU OCI? How deep into class do they typically hire from?


60-75 first round, 12-20 second round. You'll need to be top third to have a shot at an OCI spot, typically. The bigger and nicer the firm, the higher up you need to be.



would you say this is the same for UH too? thanks!

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:57 pm

kalvano wrote:
deebanger wrote:
kalvano wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:How many firms go to SMU OCI? How deep into class do they typically hire from?


60-75 first round, 12-20 second round. You'll need to be top third to have a shot at an OCI spot, typically. The bigger and nicer the firm, the higher up you need to be.



would you say this is the same for UH too? thanks!



No clue at all. I never even considered UofH.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby EpyonBlood » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:52 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:
EpyonBlood wrote:Greetings TLS. I'm a new poster but have been visiting TLS for a long time. I'm seeking advice:

I applied for Early Decision with 157/3.5. I know my numbers are a bit below but I have been told that I have a great Personal/Diversity Statement as well as other powerful softs (from extremely credible people).

I have yet to hear back from SMU. My question is based on anyone's experience, what does my situation look like? Is anyone else or know of anyone else in the past who has been in my boat?

I welcome and appreciate all advice.

Thanks.

Are you URM?


Sorry for the late reply - was out of town. I am not a URM. I appreciate everyone else's responses. I understand my numbers are not where they need to be, but I also know that people around my numbers have gotten in. As far as bringing something special to the table, I have a lot of moot court experience, and I have actually competed in a moot court that SMU Law participates in, so my experience there should be recognized by the law school (one would logically assume).

Has anyone on this thread at or around my numbers (157/3.5) been accepted, rejected or waitlisted yet for 2014 cycle? I am so anxious to hear from them!!

Thanks,
epyonblood

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:07 pm

EpyonBlood wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:
EpyonBlood wrote:Greetings TLS. I'm a new poster but have been visiting TLS for a long time. I'm seeking advice:

I applied for Early Decision with 157/3.5. I know my numbers are a bit below but I have been told that I have a great Personal/Diversity Statement as well as other powerful softs (from extremely credible people).

I have yet to hear back from SMU. My question is based on anyone's experience, what does my situation look like? Is anyone else or know of anyone else in the past who has been in my boat?

I welcome and appreciate all advice.

Thanks.

Are you URM?


Sorry for the late reply - was out of town. I am not a URM. I appreciate everyone else's responses. I understand my numbers are not where they need to be, but I also know that people around my numbers have gotten in. As far as bringing something special to the table, I have a lot of moot court experience, and I have actually competed in a moot court that SMU Law participates in, so my experience there should be recognized by the law school (one would logically assume).

Has anyone on this thread at or around my numbers (157/3.5) been accepted, rejected or waitlisted yet for 2014 cycle? I am so anxious to hear from them!!

Thanks,
epyonblood


As others have said, your numbers are too low. Others with your numbers have been accepted in the past but keep in mind those are exceptions to the rule. Your softs may help but fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, getting into law school is almost entirely a number game. Good luck to you.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:13 pm

Also, check out LSN. http://smu.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1314

Two people, one with a 157 and one with 154 have been accepted this cycle but they had much higher GPAs.

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Postby Saintsfan2017 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:24 pm

I was accepted with 158 lsat 3.74 gpa. So not too far off, good luck

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Postby jts723 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:25 pm

EpyonBlood wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:
EpyonBlood wrote:Greetings TLS. I'm a new poster but have been visiting TLS for a long time. I'm seeking advice:

I applied for Early Decision with 157/3.5. I know my numbers are a bit below but I have been told that I have a great Personal/Diversity Statement as well as other powerful softs (from extremely credible people).

I have yet to hear back from SMU. My question is based on anyone's experience, what does my situation look like? Is anyone else or know of anyone else in the past who has been in my boat?

I welcome and appreciate all advice.

Thanks.

Are you URM?


Sorry for the late reply - was out of town. I am not a URM. I appreciate everyone else's responses. I understand my numbers are not where they need to be, but I also know that people around my numbers have gotten in. As far as bringing something special to the table, I have a lot of moot court experience, and I have actually competed in a moot court that SMU Law participates in, so my experience there should be recognized by the law school (one would logically assume).

Has anyone on this thread at or around my numbers (157/3.5) been accepted, rejected or waitlisted yet for 2014 cycle? I am so anxious to hear from them!!

Thanks,
epyonblood

Here are some people with similar numbers who applied to SMU:

Waitlisted 158 3.55 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/rlgrant
Waitlisted 158 3.53 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/charlie.black
Waitlisted 158 3.53 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/dst14
Waitlisted 157 3.55 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/NSolo
Waitlisted 157 3.50 http://lawschoolnumbers.com/SMUAlumn

Not sure how well that's going to copy/paste (on my phone), but I doubt you'd be an auto-reject. Your best bet would probably be to retake in February and shoot for 160 or above, especially if you want $$.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby fnma2jd » Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:16 pm

I noticed that SMU used to have their Part time medians on the FAQ section but took it off when they updated it. Full time medians slipped so I'm wondering if the part time dropped below 160.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby Doctolaw » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:03 pm

Okay, y'all. Just got my December score. Went from 164 in Oct to 171 in Dec! :lol:

So how do I handle this with admissions. I'd like to be considered for a higher scholarship amount. Just call and ask?

I'll be applying for the big named scholarships as well, but it would be nice (and by nice I mean amazing!) to go from $72 to $90 based on my new score.

Advice?

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:44 pm

Doctolaw wrote:Okay, y'all. Just got my December score. Went from 164 in Oct to 171 in Dec! :lol:

So how do I handle this with admissions. I'd like to be considered for a higher scholarship amount. Just call and ask?

I'll be applying for the big named scholarships as well, but it would be nice (and by nice I mean amazing!) to go from $72 to $90 based on my new score.

Advice?

I'm not sure about the appropriate way to go about that be careful of what you wish for..
slayerhn wrote:If anyone is curious, I believe the scholarships work this way:

Sumner's (Full ride) - Top 1/3 requirement
35k - Top 1/3 requirement
30k - Good standing
24k - Good standing
Smaller scholarships

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Postby Doctolaw » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:15 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:
Doctolaw wrote:Okay, y'all. Just got my December score. Went from 164 in Oct to 171 in Dec! :lol:

So how do I handle this with admissions. I'd like to be considered for a higher scholarship amount. Just call and ask?

I'll be applying for the big named scholarships as well, but it would be nice (and by nice I mean amazing!) to go from $72 to $90 based on my new score.

Advice?

I'm not sure about the appropriate way to go about that be careful of what you wish for..
slayerhn wrote:If anyone is curious, I believe the scholarships work this way:

Sumner's (Full ride) - Top 1/3 requirement
35k - Top 1/3 requirement
30k - Good standing
24k - Good standing
Smaller scholarships


Good point. Maybe the jump from 30-35 isn't worth the extra stress, but up to full-ride? I'd be on board for some stress. :) Not sure I'd be in the running with my ugpa, even though my med school gpa was good. Anyway. It's a good day.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby kalvano » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:27 am

What's your undergrad GPA? With a 171, you should seriously consider looking at UVA or similar.

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Postby Doctolaw » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:33 am

kalvano wrote:What's your undergrad GPA? With a 171, you should seriously consider looking at UVA or similar.


UGPA is 3.53. Med school 3.93.

I am an older mom with three kids, two in high school, a husband with a job, a house, an aging mother-in-law, and a dog, all right here in DFW. I would love Charlottesville and practicing law in D.C. Alas, it is not the path I have chosen. :)

ETA: We love Dallas. Actually chose to move here from D.C. 13 years ago when we were making some career changes. This is home and I will be very happy practicing law here. And I can live vicariously through my kids when they leave for school. 8)

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Postby kalvano » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:55 am

Fair enough then. Good reasons to stay, although I meant go to UVA / Duke in order to come back to Dallas.

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Postby Doctolaw » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:08 am

kalvano wrote:Fair enough then. Good reasons to stay, although I meant go to UVA / Duke in order to come back to Dallas.


Well, you know, we have my husband's income, and I even have a few freelance writing clients here (which I guess I could do from anywhere). But pulling my kids out of high school is not really something we are willing to do, even if everything else was easy. They are both really successful and well-adjusted where they are. That's not something you mess with as a parent if you can help it. The young one would be no problem to pack up and move, lol!

Anyway, it sounds like everything you've written about SMU has been pretty positive, and my visit there was very positive. The students seemed happy. I'm really excited about it. I never really thought when I decided to become a stay at home mom that I would be 46 and heading to law school. I feel like I've been given a gift.

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Postby kalvano » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:55 am

Oh, I think you have very valid reasons for staying. I would definitely send an email asking to be considered for a merit scholarship based on your new LSAT, though.

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Postby kobe1020 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:48 am

I'm also thinking about asking about increase of scholarship...I had a hump from December not as stellar as docatlaw but enough to put me way ahead of 75% :)

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Postby JRO1989 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:22 pm

kobe1020 wrote:I'm also thinking about asking about increase of scholarship...I had a hump from December not as stellar as docatlaw but enough to put me way ahead of 75% :)


Wow. You make me wish I had retaken. I hope you have an application at UT.

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Postby bound » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:38 pm

My application has been held for my new score, which I now have. So I'm hoping that they get a jump on evaluating files again. When I contacted them Thursday to update them with the new score, the office was on vacation and will be until Monday the 6th. Ughhh this has been the longest wait ever.

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Postby Doctolaw » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:11 pm

Austinbound wrote:My application has been held for my new score, which I now have. So I'm hoping that they get a jump on evaluating files again. When I contacted them Thursday to update them with the new score, the office was on vacation and will be until Monday the 6th. Ughhh this has been the longest wait ever.


I bet they will be quick about it now with the score you got! Way to go!

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Postby fnma2jd » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:06 pm

checking in! My app is officially in for the part time program. I'm kind of bummed about my december LSAT so depending on where the median for part time is this year, I may be retaking in june and applying next year.

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Postby Doctolaw » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:40 pm

fnma2jd wrote:checking in! My app is officially in for the part time program. I'm kind of bummed about my december LSAT so depending on where the median for part time is this year, I may be retaking in june and applying next year.


Good luck. I know the bummed feeling you are having. I hope you don't have to retake.

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby bound » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:48 pm

Doctolaw wrote:
Austinbound wrote:My application has been held for my new score, which I now have. So I'm hoping that they get a jump on evaluating files again. When I contacted them Thursday to update them with the new score, the office was on vacation and will be until Monday the 6th. Ughhh this has been the longest wait ever.


I bet they will be quick about it now with the score you got! Way to go!



Thanks Doctolaw!! :) They just updated it to completed sooo hopefully i'm not in for the long haul :/

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Re: SMU C/O 2017 (2013-2014 Applicants)

Postby katkatkat12 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:05 pm

checking in...my application has been stuck on "complete" since 11/14 with no movement...I'm getting anxious!




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