Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Kimikho » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:40 am

chekcing in

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby HYSenberg » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:27 am

musicdiplomacy wrote:haha, very true. it's a LOW gpa. i've been out of undergrad for 8 years now, so my app was mostly on my work experience. if you're an applicant who's just out of undergrad, then my stats/scores aren't a good comparison.


I'm guessing you're URM?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby musicdiplomacy » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:01 am

HYSenberg wrote:
musicdiplomacy wrote:haha, very true. it's a LOW gpa. i've been out of undergrad for 8 years now, so my app was mostly on my work experience. if you're an applicant who's just out of undergrad, then my stats/scores aren't a good comparison.


I'm guessing you're URM?


that's quite an assumption.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby HYSenberg » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:29 am

Having an LSAT and GPA considerably below their medians and getting accepted so early in the cycle is what made me reach that conclusion. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of schools claim a holistic approach, but are actually numbers whores -- I highly doubt GULC is one of the exceptions. No offense was intended and I certainly wasn't passing judgement.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby musicdiplomacy » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:43 am

HYSenberg wrote:Having an LSAT and GPA considerably below their medians and getting accepted so early in the cycle is what made me reach that conclusion. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of schools claim a holistic approach, but are actually numbers whores -- I highly doubt GULC is one of the exceptions. No offense was intended and I certainly wasn't passing judgement.


Understandable. At the same time, the relatively early acceptance is in line with many other people on this thread who had similar if not the same status updates as myself. As for the low numbers, to be blunt, my work experience mostly trumps them. Not specifically because of the years i've worked, but because my work experience is highly specific, hard to replicate, and directly ties into a rather specific branch of the legal field.

again, if i applied right out of undergrad with these numbers and just my softs from college, i doubt i'd get in. Though, now i'm curious. I'll ask on the URM board and see what others think.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby kls120 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:18 am

Third complete after I declined an interview (I'm overseas). 10/28, 11/8, 11/11

168/3.54 keeping my fingers crossed...!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby HYSenberg » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:48 am

musicdiplomacy wrote:
HYSenberg wrote:Having an LSAT and GPA considerably below their medians and getting accepted so early in the cycle is what made me reach that conclusion. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of schools claim a holistic approach, but are actually numbers whores -- I highly doubt GULC is one of the exceptions. No offense was intended and I certainly wasn't passing judgement.


Understandable. At the same time, the relatively early acceptance is in line with many other people on this thread who had similar if not the same status updates as myself. As for the low numbers, to be blunt, my work experience mostly trumps them. Not specifically because of the years i've worked, but because my work experience is highly specific, hard to replicate, and directly ties into a rather specific branch of the legal field.

again, if i applied right out of undergrad with these numbers and just my softs from college, i doubt i'd get in. Though, now i'm curious. I'll ask on the URM board and see what others think.


I'm in a similar position being removed from UG with a few years of interesting WE so I can relate to your position. I do, however, regret giving the impression that I was undermining the validity of your acceptance. Congratulations and I hope that you continue your success this cycle.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby midwest17 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:43 am

lawschool22 wrote:Google spreadsheet for tracking results:

GULC Admissions Results (2013-2014) Google Spreadsheet

It is a work in progress but at least will allow for us to get the data going. I will add some analysis to it when I have some spare time.

Let me know if you have ideas!

OP: Feel free to add to page 1.


It would be nice if, following the convention on other applicant spreadsheets for other schools, we could say what GPA/LSAT range we are without inputting our exact score.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:50 am

Submitted application on November 10 and received an e-mail invitation on November 12 for a group interview (?) with Dean Cornblatt. I have no idea what this interview is/signifies, especially since there is no way that they reviewed my application in a day...

Anyone else also get a group interview invite? Anyone know what it means to get an invite?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:54 am

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:Submitted application on November 10 and received an e-mail invitation on November 12 for a group interview (?) with Dean Cornblatt. I have no idea what this interview is/signifies, especially since there is no way that they reviewed my application in a day...

Anyone else also get a group interview invite? Anyone know what it means to get an invite?


Same situation. I hear it's a pretty low-intensity group interview. Offered to a lot of people, including people on border-line acceptance and people with high numbers and in danger of being YPed.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby binary_theatrics » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:57 am

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:Submitted application on November 10 and received an e-mail invitation on November 12 for a group interview (?) with Dean Cornblatt.


This means exactly what it sounds like: they want to interview you to see what you're like in-person, but don't have the time for the dean to conduct one-on-one interviews with everyone. It means they like you, and want to give you an additional forum to prove that you're a good candidate for them before they make a final decision.

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:especially since there is no way that they reviewed my application in a day...


Why do you assume that? I cannot imagine it takes a skilled admissions officer any more than 10 minutes to read over your application and decide you're good enough to be invited to an interview.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby 04102014 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:00 pm

binary_theatrics wrote:
Why do you assume that? I cannot imagine it takes a skilled admissions officer any more than 10 minutes to read over your application and decide you're good enough to be invited to an interview.


I agree with this, which is why it is absurd that it takes some schools half a year to release a decision.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:08 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:
binary_theatrics wrote:
Why do you assume that? I cannot imagine it takes a skilled admissions officer any more than 10 minutes to read over your application and decide you're good enough to be invited to an interview.


I agree with this, which is why it is absurd that it takes some schools half a year to release a decision.


I'm sure they can review an application in 10 minutes, but I would have guessed that there were applications received before mine that they needed to review first. I can't imagine they review each application the minute it's received.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby 052220151 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:10 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:
binary_theatrics wrote:
Why do you assume that? I cannot imagine it takes a skilled admissions officer any more than 10 minutes to read over your application and decide you're good enough to be invited to an interview.


I agree with this, which is why it is absurd that it takes some schools half a year to release a decision.


ohpo, if you cop some hot dudes number, do you text him right away? No, of course you don't. You wait ten to twelve weeks to call him back. Why would law schools be any different? hth

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby 04102014 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:11 pm

deputydog wrote:
ohpobrecito wrote:
binary_theatrics wrote:
Why do you assume that? I cannot imagine it takes a skilled admissions officer any more than 10 minutes to read over your application and decide you're good enough to be invited to an interview.


I agree with this, which is why it is absurd that it takes some schools half a year to release a decision.


ohpo, if you cop some hot dudes number, do you text him right away? No, of course you don't. You wait ten to twelve weeks to call him back. Why would law schools be any different? hth


Well, I guess I never thought of it like that.

You've... changed me.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:28 pm

midwest17 wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:Google spreadsheet for tracking results:

GULC Admissions Results (2013-2014) Google Spreadsheet

It is a work in progress but at least will allow for us to get the data going. I will add some analysis to it when I have some spare time.

Let me know if you have ideas!

OP: Feel free to add to page 1.


It would be nice if, following the convention on other applicant spreadsheets for other schools, we could say what GPA/LSAT range we are without inputting our exact score.


I thought about this, but that would reduce the utility of the analysis we can do on the numbers, and add the possibility of user error and variability in the data.

I made it so you can input literally any username you would like - so there is no way anyone can see who put in what data. From my end all I see is a bunch of anonymous users (anonymous1, anonymous2, etc.).

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby altoid99 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:51 pm

musicdiplomacy wrote:
HYSenberg wrote:Having an LSAT and GPA considerably below their medians and getting accepted so early in the cycle is what made me reach that conclusion. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of schools claim a holistic approach, but are actually numbers whores -- I highly doubt GULC is one of the exceptions. No offense was intended and I certainly wasn't passing judgement.


Understandable. At the same time, the relatively early acceptance is in line with many other people on this thread who had similar if not the same status updates as myself. As for the low numbers, to be blunt, my work experience mostly trumps them. Not specifically because of the years i've worked, but because my work experience is highly specific, hard to replicate, and directly ties into a rather specific branch of the legal field.

again, if i applied right out of undergrad with these numbers and just my softs from college, i doubt i'd get in. Though, now i'm curious. I'll ask on the URM board and see what others think.


Congratulations on your acceptance! With regards to the bolded, however, there is very little evidence on TLS that this is true for the vast majority of applicants with similarly high-level, very impressive, work experience. Sure, when compared to applicants with similar numbers who lack that kind of experience, of course it helps--but you need to have the numbers to begin with. The fact that you were able to get in with sub-par numbers is almost assuredly due to the boost that schools give to URMs. Nothing against you of course--enjoy your acceptance, as you should!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:13 pm

If you haven't already, please check out the new analytics tab in the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlAHcFNmNuAwdEpUOFZEaUpqWjgtYjRKaldfbmUwOHc&usp=sharing

If you have any ideas or would like to see additional analysis, let me know!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby 04102014 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:16 pm

lawschool22 wrote:If you haven't already, please check out the new analytics tab in the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlAHcFNmNuAwdEpUOFZEaUpqWjgtYjRKaldfbmUwOHc&usp=sharing

If you have any ideas or would like to see additional analysis, let me know!


This sheet is wonderful. Great job! Are you going to make similar ones for the other schools?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:18 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:If you haven't already, please check out the new analytics tab in the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlAHcFNmNuAwdEpUOFZEaUpqWjgtYjRKaldfbmUwOHc&usp=sharing

If you have any ideas or would like to see additional analysis, let me know!


This sheet is wonderful. Great job! Are you going to make similar ones for the other schools?


Yep - I am planning on it. Thanks for the comments. It sort of came out of my own questions that I always seem to ask in every thread (how long does it take to hear back, etc.), and I figured there should be an easier way for people to get these sorts of answers. Plus I am bored at work and wanted something else to do :)
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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby tpfennin » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:18 pm

lawschool22 wrote:If you haven't already, please check out the new analytics tab in the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlAHcFNmNuAwdEpUOFZEaUpqWjgtYjRKaldfbmUwOHc&usp=sharing

If you have any ideas or would like to see additional analysis, let me know!


Looks Awesome!!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby leezabee » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:24 pm

lawschool22 wrote:If you haven't already, please check out the new analytics tab in the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlAHcFNmNuAwdEpUOFZEaUpqWjgtYjRKaldfbmUwOHc&usp=sharing

If you have any ideas or would like to see additional analysis, let me know!


Love the analytics, thank you! I interviewed exactly a week ago, and was going through the thread to try and figure out when I could expect to hear back, so having that data there is a big help.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:26 pm

leezabee wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:If you haven't already, please check out the new analytics tab in the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlAHcFNmNuAwdEpUOFZEaUpqWjgtYjRKaldfbmUwOHc&usp=sharing

If you have any ideas or would like to see additional analysis, let me know!


Love the analytics, thank you! I interviewed exactly a week ago, and was going through the thread to try and figure out when I could expect to hear back, so having that data there is a big help.


You're welcome - I figured those "average days" figures could be useful. We have a lot of data on acceptance rates and expected outcomes, but not much on timing, which is what a lot of people in these threads are concerned about.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby pompoms » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:27 pm

Lawschool22, just curious, when making the spreadsheet, what did you have in mind for the distinction between "unique" softs and "above average" softs?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:32 pm

pompoms wrote:Lawschool22, just curious, when making the spreadsheet, what did you have in mind for the distinction between "unique" softs and "above average" softs?


For me, Unique would be the type of softs Yale would hype in its materials. Maybe I should change it to Exceptional? I could see how Unique may be misleading. I was thinking Astronaut, Nobel peace prize winner, published author, Afghan refugee, child of a President, etc. You can think of it on a 1-5 scale basically. Obviously this is hard to judge as it is highly subjective. But hopefully we'll get a bell curve (although I doubt it because TLS is somewhat self-selecting).
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