Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby kraffcook » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:40 am

midwest17 wrote:
kraffcook wrote:Most aid is need-based, so that's what they focus on.


Is this really true? My understanding was that outside HYS, schools like to say they take need into account but in actuality it's never a major factor.


Need is always taken into account. Actual need-based aid from the Financial Aid office is given out without putting significant weight on things like grades and is just based on income/tax information you supply. The awards from them can be substantial (I've heard awards as high as 80% tuition). Merit-based awards are way less predictable or substantial. Need and merit tend to always overlap though; Vanderbilt, for example, gave me a merit-scholarship then told me that counted as my financial aid as well. They'll consider need because law schools are always concerned with their yield statistics. My scores weren't good enough for a merit award, but I got one anyway because I convinced them money was my biggest concern and I would withdraw if I didn't get one (I used softer, subtler language, but you get the picture). Basically, if you have two admitted students and one is rich but has higher scores and one is poor but has lower scores, who are they going to give a scholarship to? The rich kid may deserve it more, but chances are money won't affect his decision, so they may move that money down to the poor kid. That's how need comes into play.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby nmic » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:12 pm

Checking in.
Submitted on 01/02.
Complete on 01/06.
Good luck to everyone!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby chuckbass » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:39 pm

Submitted 12/31
Completed 1/3
Update 1/6
Eek

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Dominican_Lawyer » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:51 pm

Hey just checking in. I just had my interview yesterday. Two question. 1 obviously the email that Dean Cornblatt sent me today he sends to everyone who interviews right? 2. When should I be expecting a decision now that I interviewed and considering my application completed date is 12/17

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby mandyjay11 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:52 pm

late checking in... I submitted 12/2

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midwest17
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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby midwest17 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:54 pm

kraffcook wrote:
midwest17 wrote:
kraffcook wrote:Most aid is need-based, so that's what they focus on.


Is this really true? My understanding was that outside HYS, schools like to say they take need into account but in actuality it's never a major factor.


Need is always taken into account. Actual need-based aid from the Financial Aid office is given out without putting significant weight on things like grades and is just based on income/tax information you supply. The awards from them can be substantial (I've heard awards as high as 80% tuition). Merit-based awards are way less predictable or substantial. Need and merit tend to always overlap though; Vanderbilt, for example, gave me a merit-scholarship then told me that counted as my financial aid as well. They'll consider need because law schools are always concerned with their yield statistics. My scores weren't good enough for a merit award, but I got one anyway because I convinced them money was my biggest concern and I would withdraw if I didn't get one (I used softer, subtler language, but you get the picture). Basically, if you have two admitted students and one is rich but has higher scores and one is poor but has lower scores, who are they going to give a scholarship to? The rich kid may deserve it more, but chances are money won't affect his decision, so they may move that money down to the poor kid. That's how need comes into play.


I'm aware that this is what schools say, but I was under the impression (and myLSN seems to bear this out) that scores do a very good job of predicting aid everywhere except YHS.

While your explanation for why they would care about need makes sense, I don't think it's really applicable: there are very few people *so* rich that COA isn't part of the equation. Law schools will recognize that, especially since "need" usually takes parental income into account, but law schools know that many parents don't actually help, even for K-JDs.

And the super-rich people for whom cost actually isn't a factor may be more desirable for the schools anyways, since they're more likely to become big donors.

If Georgetown is actually doing pure need-based grants (i.e. calculating EFC and then giving everyone some percentage of the difference) that would be cool. It's just surprising and seems to go significantly against common wisdom.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby kalyssa » Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:38 pm

Dominican_Lawyer wrote:Hey just checking in. I just had my interview yesterday. Two question. 1 obviously the email that Dean Cornblatt sent me today he sends to everyone who interviews right? 2. When should I be expecting a decision now that I interviewed and considering my application completed date is 12/17


i interviewed a few days ago and got that letter too. at the end of the interview Cornblatt said we would hear back in about 2-3 weeks.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby anubis1911 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:30 pm

I was accepted forever ago...any word on scholarships? When do they go out? Are they already out? I was accepted back in October...

URM if it matters

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:57 pm

I was able to finally get into the admitted students website today, so if you have been trying without luck (and have been accepted) it might be worth a shot to try it.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby barrelofmonkeys » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:00 pm

lawschool22 wrote:I was able to finally get into the admitted students website today, so if you have been trying without luck (and have been accepted) it might be worth a shot to try it.


Ah, same. Thanks for reminding me!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby mulhollanddrive » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:09 pm

3.68/171 here

Just got the email saying my application was postponed....

Anyone with similar numbers have a similar outcome?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:09 pm

barrelofmonkeys wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:I was able to finally get into the admitted students website today, so if you have been trying without luck (and have been accepted) it might be worth a shot to try it.


Ah, same. Thanks for reminding me!


Hey no problem!

Edit: Also I just realized I was in the wrong thread.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby bombaysippin » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:12 pm

Finally sent in app today, checking in

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby outlawscr10 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:14 pm

mulhollanddrive wrote:3.68/171 here

Just got the email saying my application was postponed....

Anyone with similar numbers have a similar outcome?


Seems odd. Did you interview?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby mulhollanddrive » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:38 pm

outlawscr10 wrote:
mulhollanddrive wrote:3.68/171 here

Just got the email saying my application was postponed....

Anyone with similar numbers have a similar outcome?


Seems odd. Did you interview?


Yeah. Group interview with Dean Cornblatt. I said some risky things during the interview and I guess that's what did it.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby midwest17 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:42 pm

mulhollanddrive wrote:
outlawscr10 wrote:
mulhollanddrive wrote:3.68/171 here

Just got the email saying my application was postponed....

Anyone with similar numbers have a similar outcome?


Seems odd. Did you interview?


Yeah. Group interview with Dean Cornblatt. I said some risky things during the interview and I guess that's what did it.


Any change you want to elaborate on "risky"?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby outlawscr10 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:45 pm

Elaborate, elaborate!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby samoby » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:47 pm

outlawscr10 wrote:Elaborate, elaborate!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby sandwich » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:57 pm

kalyssa wrote:
Dominican_Lawyer wrote:Hey just checking in. I just had my interview yesterday. Two question. 1 obviously the email that Dean Cornblatt sent me today he sends to everyone who interviews right? 2. When should I be expecting a decision now that I interviewed and considering my application completed date is 12/17


i interviewed a few days ago and got that letter too. at the end of the interview Cornblatt said we would hear back in about 2-3 weeks.




Interesting. I interviewed a while ago and my interviewer said she was going to send everything in that afternoon. Spoke with her a few days later and she talked about the interview materials in the past tense, so I'm mostly sure that all my stuff was submitted. But I didn't get any letter... any chance you might be able to post or PM me about what it (generally) said?

also, good luck to everyone!

thanks!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Kimikho » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:02 pm

samoby wrote:
outlawscr10 wrote:Elaborate, elaborate!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:05 pm

scoobers wrote:
samoby wrote:
outlawscr10 wrote:Elaborate, elaborate!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby kalyssa » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:20 pm

sandwich wrote:
kalyssa wrote:
Dominican_Lawyer wrote:Hey just checking in. I just had my interview yesterday. Two question. 1 obviously the email that Dean Cornblatt sent me today he sends to everyone who interviews right? 2. When should I be expecting a decision now that I interviewed and considering my application completed date is 12/17


i interviewed a few days ago and got that letter too. at the end of the interview Cornblatt said we would hear back in about 2-3 weeks.




Interesting. I interviewed a while ago and my interviewer said she was going to send everything in that afternoon. Spoke with her a few days later and she talked about the interview materials in the past tense, so I'm mostly sure that all my stuff was submitted. But I didn't get any letter... any chance you might be able to post or PM me about what it (generally) said?

also, good luck to everyone!

thanks!


Dominican Lawyer and I probably got the same e-mail because we both interviewed with Dean Cornblatt. If you didn't interview with him thats probably why you didn't get an e-mail.
the e-mail basically said thanks for interviewing. i enjoyed getting to know you better through the process and we will be in touch soon.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Nonconsecutive » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:23 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
scoobers wrote:
samoby wrote:
outlawscr10 wrote:Elaborate, elaborate!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby zlatanlaw » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:07 am

I'm considering writing a LOCI. Who do I send it to and who do I address it to? Any ideas anyone?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2017 Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby berndie90 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:13 am

lawschool22 wrote:
scoobers wrote:
samoby wrote:
outlawscr10 wrote:Elaborate, elaborate!




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