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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby logicspeaks » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:48 pm

Man, Penn REALLY wants us to write that Why Penn essay.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby Chalupa-Batman » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:02 pm

Also wl. Also suspect this is a yp, my third such wl. While i feel lucky to have good options, This kind of makes me hate the process. I can't wait to be done with it.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby kek5250 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:19 pm

Okay so someone needs to share in my rage here.

Applied Early Decision. waited three months. Was deferred. waited three more months.

...WAIT LISTED. This is a bad punchline, right? April Fool's joke? At least reject me so I can move the hell on, right?

did this happen to ANYONE else, or am I the lone bastard stuck in a very short line of one near-reject?

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby jagfin » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:22 pm

waitlisted via email just now, nooooooooooo
ah, that fateful day, being waitlisted by 2 of my 3 dream schools. i always knew it would come.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby JustHawkin » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:23 pm

The bloodbath.


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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby liammial » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:17 pm

Isn't it a little embarrassing for Penn that they have to do this? They're the 7th ranked school; do they really feel like they have no shot of getting people with these higher stats? It's pretty damning to their reputation (and UVA's) that they would rather game the numbers than admit the most qualified class possible.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:25 pm

liammial wrote:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Penn that they have to do this? They're the 7th ranked school; do they really feel like they have no shot of getting people with these higher stats? It's pretty damning to their reputation (and UVA's) that they would rather game the numbers than admit the most qualified class possible.


yeah and why not just offer more $$ and levys to higher numbers instead of YPing? I'm sure a lot of people above their 75ths, but below HYS and Ruby/Vanderbilt/Hamilton, would take a Levy given the chance.

There were a lot of WL people above both 75ths saying the same thing about how they would've gone to UVA with money.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby lastsamurai » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:41 pm

liammial wrote:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Penn that they have to do this? They're the 7th ranked school; do they really feel like they have no shot of getting people with these higher stats? It's pretty damning to their reputation (and UVA's) that they would rather game the numbers than admit the most qualified class possible.


Maybe I'm missing something, but what "higher" stats are you seeing today? As Penn's GPA median is 3.87, the higher LSAT applicants looked like splitters to me. I didn't see anyone above both 75ths (3.94 and 171)

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby PotenC » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:42 pm

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby 04102014 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:58 pm

lastsamurai wrote:
liammial wrote:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Penn that they have to do this? They're the 7th ranked school; do they really feel like they have no shot of getting people with these higher stats? It's pretty damning to their reputation (and UVA's) that they would rather game the numbers than admit the most qualified class possible.


Maybe I'm missing something, but what "higher" stats are you seeing today? As Penn's GPA median is 3.87, the higher LSAT applicants looked like splitters to me. I didn't see anyone above both 75ths (3.94 and 171)


I'm beginning to think that people don't realize how high Penn's median gpa is (3.89 according to 509 report).

These WL are not statistically surprising.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby controo » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:02 pm

WLed via email earlier today.

Above both 75ths. Did not write Why Penn. Submitted late December.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby tlsapp2017 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:19 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:
lastsamurai wrote:
liammial wrote:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Penn that they have to do this? They're the 7th ranked school; do they really feel like they have no shot of getting people with these higher stats? It's pretty damning to their reputation (and UVA's) that they would rather game the numbers than admit the most qualified class possible.


Maybe I'm missing something, but what "higher" stats are you seeing today? As Penn's GPA median is 3.87, the higher LSAT applicants looked like splitters to me. I didn't see anyone above both 75ths (3.94 and 171)


I'm beginning to think that people don't realize how high Penn's median gpa is (3.89 according to 509 report).

These WL are not statistically surprising.


I think many of these people are surprised by the WL because they have gotten in to better ranked law schools; it certainly looks like YP if you've been accepted to CCN (often with $) and/or HYS and you get a WL from Penn.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby admiringatticus » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:31 pm

Waitlisted today. GPA 4.xx, LSAT @ 75th. Wrote a Why Penn.

I was somewhat expecting this since I haven't heard from them in a long time. I will be withdrawing.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby Chalupa-Batman » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:37 pm

tlsapp2017 wrote:
ohpobrecito wrote:
lastsamurai wrote:
liammial wrote:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Penn that they have to do this? They're the 7th ranked school; do they really feel like they have no shot of getting people with these higher stats? It's pretty damning to their reputation (and UVA's) that they would rather game the numbers than admit the most qualified class possible.


Maybe I'm missing something, but what "higher" stats are you seeing today? As Penn's GPA median is 3.87, the higher LSAT applicants looked like splitters to me. I didn't see anyone above both 75ths (3.94 and 171)


I'm beginning to think that people don't realize how high Penn's median gpa is (3.89 according to 509 report).

These WL are not statistically surprising.


I think many of these people are surprised by the WL because they have gotten in to better ranked law schools; it certainly looks like YP if you've been accepted to CCN (often with $) and/or HYS and you get a WL from Penn.

+1

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby liammial » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:48 pm

lastsamurai wrote:
liammial wrote:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Penn that they have to do this? They're the 7th ranked school; do they really feel like they have no shot of getting people with these higher stats? It's pretty damning to their reputation (and UVA's) that they would rather game the numbers than admit the most qualified class possible.


Maybe I'm missing something, but what "higher" stats are you seeing today? As Penn's GPA median is 3.87, the higher LSAT applicants looked like splitters to me. I didn't see anyone above both 75ths (3.94 and 171)

I'm above both 75's and I was waitlisted.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby tlsapp2017 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:09 pm

kek5250 wrote:Okay so someone needs to share in my rage here.

Applied Early Decision. waited three months. Was deferred. waited three more months.

...WAIT LISTED. This is a bad punchline, right? April Fool's joke? At least reject me so I can move the hell on, right?

did this happen to ANYONE else, or am I the lone bastard stuck in a very short line of one near-reject?


:(. If it makes you feel remotely better, this is exactly what happened to me for Undergrad, and I ended up getting in off the waitlist in early May; so if you decide to stick it out, you still might get in!

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby rutgers17 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:42 am

lastsamurai wrote:
liammial wrote:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Penn that they have to do this? They're the 7th ranked school; do they really feel like they have no shot of getting people with these higher stats? It's pretty damning to their reputation (and UVA's) that they would rather game the numbers than admit the most qualified class possible.


Maybe I'm missing something, but what "higher" stats are you seeing today? As Penn's GPA median is 3.87, the higher LSAT applicants looked like splitters to me. I didn't see anyone above both 75ths (3.94 and 171)


I agree - pretty much all schools YP to some degree, which Penn has definitely done this cycle. But a very high LSAT and below median GPA isn't YP. It seems to me that Penn may just put more stock in GPA than some of the higher ranked schools.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby AlwaysPlayTheFox » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:47 am

rutgers17 wrote:
lastsamurai wrote:
liammial wrote:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Penn that they have to do this? They're the 7th ranked school; do they really feel like they have no shot of getting people with these higher stats? It's pretty damning to their reputation (and UVA's) that they would rather game the numbers than admit the most qualified class possible.


Maybe I'm missing something, but what "higher" stats are you seeing today? As Penn's GPA median is 3.87, the higher LSAT applicants looked like splitters to me. I didn't see anyone above both 75ths (3.94 and 171)


I agree - pretty much all schools YP to some degree, which Penn has definitely done this cycle. But a very high LSAT and below median GPA isn't YP. It seems to me that Penn may just put more stock in GPA than some of the higher ranked schools.


+1

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby lastsamurai » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:54 am

All I can say as someone at or above both 75ths who was admitted is 1) apply early 2) write a Why Penn.

If you didn't do both of those things, I think the whining is unwarranted. If you did and have been admitted to better ranked schools, then yes you were likely YP'd, and I understand why you're upset.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby JustHawkin » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:00 am

lastsamurai wrote:All I can say as someone at or above both 75ths who was admitted is 1) apply early 2) write a Why Penn.

If you didn't do both of those things, I think the whining is unwarranted. If you did and have been admitted to better ranked schools, then yes you were likely YP'd, and I understand why you're upset.

tl;dr version: Keep calm and LOCI on.

FTFY

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby kek5250 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:25 pm

tlsapp2017 wrote:
kek5250 wrote:Okay so someone needs to share in my rage here.

Applied Early Decision. waited three months. Was deferred. waited three more months.

...WAIT LISTED. This is a bad punchline, right? April Fool's joke? At least reject me so I can move the hell on, right?

did this happen to ANYONE else, or am I the lone bastard stuck in a very short line of one near-reject?


:(. If it makes you feel remotely better, this is exactly what happened to me for Undergrad, and I ended up getting in off the waitlist in early May; so if you decide to stick it out, you still might get in!



oh man that makes me feel so much better. not even kidding. Thank you. I'm going to stay on the wait list I guess, it's just super cruel to go nearly 7 months without a real and final decision. I'm glad this has happened to others. (well not really, i wouldn't wish it on anyone)

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby liammial » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:41 pm

I'm not whining; I'm going somewhere better anyway. But it is clear the Penn and UVA YP considerably more than do the rest of the Top 14.

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Re: Penn c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby 04102014 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:45 pm

liammial wrote:I'm not whining; I'm going somewhere better anyway. But it is clear the Penn and UVA YP considerably more than do the rest of the Top 14.


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