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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by 2x2Matrix » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:11 pm

wtrcoins3 wrote:... but are admission standards different for this, or is it evaluated like everything else?
Also wondering

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Post by Lavitz » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:17 pm

2x2Matrix wrote:
wtrcoins3 wrote:... but are admission standards different for this, or is it evaluated like everything else?
Also wondering
I didn't notice a difference last cycle.

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by Slytherpuff » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:51 pm

Did anyone get the PT email without submitting transcripts to LSAC first?

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by NicoleLauren17 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:54 pm

I'm a little worried now... I was offered a fee waiver last year when I was initially planning on applying. I decided to take a year off, but I was told that I didn't need to do anything to ensure I received fee waivers again. I recently submitted updated transcripts and letters to LSAC so my account is active, but I didn't receive a PT invite or fee waiver :( LSAT 168, GPA 3.89

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by oxie » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:04 pm

NicoleLauren17 wrote:I'm a little worried now... I was offered a fee waiver last year when I was initially planning on applying. I decided to take a year off, but I was told that I didn't need to do anything to ensure I received fee waivers again. I recently submitted updated transcripts and letters to LSAC so my account is active, but I didn't receive a PT invite or fee waiver :( LSAT 168, GPA 3.89
Have you updated your expected law school enrollment year in CRS? I'm not really sure how schools use CRS, but if you don't have your enrollment year set to 2014, they may not be picking you up in their searches.

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by wtrc » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:25 pm

NicoleLauren17 wrote:I'm a little worried now... I was offered a fee waiver last year when I was initially planning on applying. I decided to take a year off, but I was told that I didn't need to do anything to ensure I received fee waivers again. I recently submitted updated transcripts and letters to LSAC so my account is active, but I didn't receive a PT invite or fee waiver :( LSAT 168, GPA 3.89

Definitely email them.

From last year, it seems there were a bunch of people that were excluded with similar or better stats to people that got the email. Some of them emailed Duke and got the waiver and PT. Your stats are pretty much identical to mine (you have 1 LSAT point on me), so I don't see why you would be excluded on purpose. I wouldn't worry...

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by NicoleLauren17 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:51 pm

Thanks everyone! I emailed them and was told I was not emailed because I had not changed my enrollment date with CRS and I was offered a fee waiver.

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by mojangles » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:01 pm

Not expecting anything from Duke, but... checking in

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by Humbert Humbert » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:20 pm

carolinainmymind wrote:So no more PT emails until after October LSAT?

173/3.9X

No email received at all, not even the waiver/ED email. Disappointed, to say the least.
I have similar numbers and didn't receive priority track (though I did get a fee waiver). I'm confused - why would they encourage me to apply (fee waiver), but not invite me to apply through priority track? I don't see what they could stand to gain from doing so.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by Dr. Dre » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:45 pm

Humbert Humbert wrote:
carolinainmymind wrote:So no more PT emails until after October LSAT?

173/3.9X

No email received at all, not even the waiver/ED email. Disappointed, to say the least.
I have similar numbers and didn't receive priority track (though I did get a fee waiver). I'm confused - why would they encourage me to apply (fee waiver), but not invite me to apply through priority track? I don't see what they could stand to gain from doing so.

Any thoughts?
Maybe they think you are two good for them and know you won't really go there when you got YHSCCN

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by Humbert Humbert » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:01 pm

Dr. Dre wrote:
Humbert Humbert wrote:
carolinainmymind wrote:So no more PT emails until after October LSAT?

173/3.9X

No email received at all, not even the waiver/ED email. Disappointed, to say the least.
I have similar numbers and didn't receive priority track (though I did get a fee waiver). I'm confused - why would they encourage me to apply (fee waiver), but not invite me to apply through priority track? I don't see what they could stand to gain from doing so.

Any thoughts?
Maybe they think you are two good for them and know you won't really go there when you got YHSCCN
I get the yield protect issue, but then why offer the fee waiver at all? I'm still going to apply, due to the fee waiver, which exposes them to the same YP risk. The only difference is I won't get my decision back for a few months instead of 10 days.

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by 2x2Matrix » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:25 pm

is there a way to filter on LSN to just see PT applicants?

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by Dr. Dre » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:26 pm

Humbert Humbert wrote: I get the yield protect issue, but then why offer the fee waiver at all? I'm still going to apply, due to the fee waiver, which exposes them to the same YP risk. The only difference is I won't get my decision back for a few months instead of 10 days.
I think the PT is for those they believe will for sure matriculate.

The fee waiver in your situation is so you will for sure apply and then they will waitlist you for YP reasons. They like it when moar people apply.

So for them, it's better to save the PT and waitlist you regularly.

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by 04102014 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:26 pm

2x2Matrix wrote:is there a way to filter on LSN to just see PT applicants?
There used to be before they revamped the site. If there's a way to now, I would also love to know about it.

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by Humbert Humbert » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:31 pm

Dr. Dre wrote:
Humbert Humbert wrote: I get the yield protect issue, but then why offer the fee waiver at all? I'm still going to apply, due to the fee waiver, which exposes them to the same YP risk. The only difference is I won't get my decision back for a few months instead of 10 days.
I think the PT is for those they believe will for sure matriculate.

The fee waiver in your situation is so you will for sure apply and then they will waitlist you for YP reasons. They like it when moar people apply.

So for them, it's better to save the PT and waitlist you regularly.
Yeah I guess this makes sense. I just kind of assumed that everyone above a certain GPA and LSAT floor got the PT invite. Given the 10 day turnaround time, however, I could see why they might need to tailor it more finely.

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by The-Specs » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:38 pm

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by Dr. Dre » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:41 pm

The-Specs wrote:
Dr. Dre wrote:
Humbert Humbert wrote: I get the yield protect issue, but then why offer the fee waiver at all? I'm still going to apply, due to the fee waiver, which exposes them to the same YP risk. The only difference is I won't get my decision back for a few months instead of 10 days.
I think the PT is for those they believe will for sure matriculate.

The fee waiver in your situation is so you will for sure apply and then they will waitlist you for YP reasons. They like it when moar people apply.

So for them, it's better to save the PT and waitlist you regularly.
I find this hard to believe given that they are giving PT's to applicants with 178's. There is almost no way these people are going to attend unless they have sub 3.3 gpa's or they are offered huge amounts of money.
How do you know they don't have sub 3.3gpa's

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by Humbert Humbert » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:44 pm

The-Specs wrote:
Dr. Dre wrote:
Humbert Humbert wrote: I get the yield protect issue, but then why offer the fee waiver at all? I'm still going to apply, due to the fee waiver, which exposes them to the same YP risk. The only difference is I won't get my decision back for a few months instead of 10 days.
I think the PT is for those they believe will for sure matriculate.

The fee waiver in your situation is so you will for sure apply and then they will waitlist you for YP reasons. They like it when moar people apply.

So for them, it's better to save the PT and waitlist you regularly.
I find this hard to believe given that they are giving PT's to applicants with 178's. There is almost no way these people are going to attend unless they have sub 3.3 gpa's or they are offered huge amounts of money.
Right, I've seen this as well, which made me reticent to accept Dre's theory that PT is only for likely matriculants. So is the PT pool just a random assortment of qualified/over-qualified applicants? Seems unlikely, but whatever the pattern is, I can't decipher it.

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Re: Duke c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Post by The-Specs » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:57 pm

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Post by jbagelboy » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:52 pm

I got a PT invite after christmas with absolutely zero indication I would attend. I wasnt even considering applying before I got it. I actually think they hope to win over a few applicants with priority track for whom Duke would previously have NOT been their top consideration. So it may be a mix of targeting likely attenders per Dre's suggestion, and shots in the dark to an assortment of normally CCN-bound students who will then receive generous financial aid and a bombardement of souther hospitality with the calculated prayer that the relative ease of the app process and painless finaid + novel appeal of the school will yield a few 75ths+ candidates

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Post by Humbert Humbert » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:16 am

jbagelboy wrote:I got a PT invite after christmas with absolutely zero indication I would attend. I wasnt even considering applying before I got it. I actually think they hope to win over a few applicants with priority track for whom Duke would previously have NOT been their top consideration. So it may be a mix of targeting likely attenders per Dre's suggestion, and shots in the dark to an assortment of normally CCN-bound students who will then receive generous financial aid and a bombardement of souther hospitality with the calculated prayer that the relative ease of the app process and painless finaid + novel appeal of the school will yield a few 75ths+ candidates
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