Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Where are you in the Harvard application process?

I'm applying next year, just reading this thread to prepare
38
12%
Applying this year, I got an extension on my application
1
0%
I applied and haven't gotten a JS1 yet
64
20%
I applied and got a JS1, but haven't had it yet.
7
2%
I had my JS1 but I'm waiting for a magical phone call
43
13%
Already had my JS2, just here to help
62
19%
Waitlisted
61
19%
Dinged D:
49
15%
 
Total votes: 325

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby HorseThief » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:37 pm

Jules239 wrote:
milkandcheerios wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
drawstring wrote:Today really was reject a 171 day.

http://harvard.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants


So 4/4 of the rejections yesterday that we know of (three from LSN, one more here) were 171's, and 2/4 were above-median GPA. If we see more of this, it may suggest that the GPA median is not shaping up to be an issue for them. Idk why else they wouldn't at least wait list a 171/3.88+ (barring other issues w/ the app).



As someone with a lower GPA and a high LSAT, I so badly wish this was true, but my lack of even a JS1 seems to indicates otherwise (yes, I know this is anecdotal but just let me be melodramatic in my moment of grief :( )

I feel like this cycle hasn't been as "easy" as it has been made out to be. If anything, It's only been wildly unpredictable. I wonder if this is the the effect of the increase of 170+ scorers this year.



There's been an increase of 170+ scorers? I thought there has been a decrease recently?

Eta: My ipad likes to autocorrect..


Decrease in 169- scores, but more 170+.

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/high-lsat-score-of-2014-aba-law-applicants-as-percent-change-for-last-year/

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby jdapplicant » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:49 pm




Welp, that's unfortunate.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Arrow4Christ » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:51 pm

jdapplicant wrote:



Welp, that's unfortunate.


+1 :shock:

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby FuriousDuck » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:04 pm

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby bbkk » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:19 pm

High LSAT score of 2014 ABA applicants with the percent change from last year, as of 2/21/14

Highest LSAT___Pct Chg YTD
__< 140________-21.5%
140–144________-16.9%
145–149________-15.9%
150–154________-17.8%
155–159________-15.6%
160–164________-15.0%
165–169________-9.1%
170–174________1.2%
175–180________6.0%



:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :| :| :| :|


FuriousDuck wrote:Last year, 170+ applicants crashed, and lower scoring applicants stayed surprisingly constant, so this year's bandwidth data makes sense to me.


Makes sense, but probably not very good news.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby jdapplicant » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:22 pm

Edit: nvm read the numbers wrong
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby jk148706 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:23 pm

bbkk wrote:
High LSAT score of 2014 ABA applicants with the percent change from last year, as of 2/21/14

Highest LSAT___Pct Chg YTD
__< 140________-21.5%
140–144________-16.9%
145–149________-15.9%
150–154________-17.8%
155–159________-15.6%
160–164________-15.0%
165–169________-9.1%
170–174________1.2%
175–180________6.0%




:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :| :| :| :|


FuriousDuck wrote:Last year, 170+ applicants crashed, and lower scoring applicants stayed surprisingly constant, so this year's bandwidth data makes sense to me.


Makes sense, but probably not very good news.


That increase is still not very many ppl. Because so few ppl score that high, a 6% jump isn't that many actual test takers.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Brettanomyces » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:25 pm

jk148706 wrote:
bbkk wrote:
High LSAT score of 2014 ABA applicants with the percent change from last year, as of 2/21/14

Highest LSAT___Pct Chg YTD
__< 140________-21.5%
140–144________-16.9%
145–149________-15.9%
150–154________-17.8%
155–159________-15.6%
160–164________-15.0%
165–169________-9.1%
170–174________1.2%
175–180________6.0%




:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :| :| :| :|


FuriousDuck wrote:Last year, 170+ applicants crashed, and lower scoring applicants stayed surprisingly constant, so this year's bandwidth data makes sense to me.


Makes sense, but probably not very good news.


That increase is still not very many ppl. Because so few ppl score that high, a 6% jump isn't that many actual test takers.


Mhmm. I don't know what the actual numbers are, but a 6% increase of, say, a thousand, is still just an increase of 60 people.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby bbkk » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:27 pm

jdapplicant wrote:Wasn't there a drop in total applicants again this year? So the absolute number of 175+ may still have decreased?


I think it depends on how big the drop was.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby jk148706 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:28 pm

Brettanomyces wrote:
jk148706 wrote:
bbkk wrote:
High LSAT score of 2014 ABA applicants with the percent change from last year, as of 2/21/14

Highest LSAT___Pct Chg YTD
__< 140________-21.5%
140–144________-16.9%
145–149________-15.9%
150–154________-17.8%
155–159________-15.6%
160–164________-15.0%
165–169________-9.1%
170–174________1.2%
175–180________6.0%




:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :| :| :| :|


FuriousDuck wrote:Last year, 170+ applicants crashed, and lower scoring applicants stayed surprisingly constant, so this year's bandwidth data makes sense to me.


Makes sense, but probably not very good news.


That increase is still not very many ppl. Because so few ppl score that high, a 6% jump isn't that many actual test takers.


Mhmm. I don't know what the actual numbers are, but a 6% increase of, say, a thousand, is still just an increase of 60 people.


Precisely

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby jdapplicant » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:32 pm

bbkk wrote:
jdapplicant wrote:Wasn't there a drop in total applicants again this year? So the absolute number of 175+ may still have decreased?


I think it depends on how big the drop was.


I read the numbers wrong at first. After posting that I realized that its a percentage increase from the absolute number of 175+ last year, so the number did increase :|

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby bbkk » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:34 pm

jk148706 wrote:
Brettanomyces wrote:
jk148706 wrote:
That increase is still not very many ppl. Because so few ppl score that high, a 6% jump isn't that many actual test takers.


Mhmm. I don't know what the actual numbers are, but a 6% increase of, say, a thousand, is still just an increase of 60 people.


Precisely


Yeah, you are right. I forgot how few people scored above 175. But still, for those K-JDs with nothing extraordinary but good stats, the 60 people could potentially take away their spots in the top law schools.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Pneumonia » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:37 pm

there aren't even a thousand that score 175+

If I recall correctly it was like 330 of them last year and 350 of them this year.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby bbkk » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:45 pm

Pneumonia wrote:there aren't even a thousand that score 175+

If I recall correctly it was like 330 of them last year and 350 of them this year.


Yeah that doesn't sound a lot..

BTW, here's my 777th post...for science and stuff

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby HorseThief » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:55 pm

In December Spivey tweeted "170–174 1,173 ... 175–180 353."
That gives us 20 more 175-180 and 13 more 170-174.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby milkandcheerios » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:14 am

HorseThief wrote:In December Spivey tweeted "170–174 1,173 ... 175–180 353."
That gives us 20 more 175-180 and 13 more 170-174.


i've always wondered, do these stats include re takers or first time takers only?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby drawstring » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:15 am

And some of those people probably have GPAs that put them out at HLS.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby FuriousDuck » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:55 am

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Pneumonia » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:58 am

HorseThief wrote:In December Spivey tweeted "170–174 1,173 ... 175–180 353."
That gives us 20 more 175-180 and 13 more 170-174.


I knew I was close!

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby baloneydanza » Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:22 am

Just joined TLS, figured I'd post my stats. Got admitted during the big Thursday wave a week and a half ago. 170 LSAT, 3.92 GPA, URM. This forum's neuroticism is contagious. Also is there still time to sign up for next week's ASW?

edit: Late January JS1. No idea when I went complete.
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby The-Specs » Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:25 am

baloneydanza wrote:Also is there still time to sign up for next week's ASW?


Yes.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby fivestarfolds » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:23 pm

baloneydanza wrote:Just joined TLS, figured I'd post my stats. Got admitted during the big Thursday wave a week and a half ago. 170 LSAT, 3.92 GPA, URM. This forum's neuroticism is contagious. Also is there still time to sign up for next week's ASW?

edit: Late January JS1. No idea when I went complete.


Congrats!

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby drawstring » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:20 pm

So Feb scores are out. Should be interesting to see how things shape up from here. It seems like a large majority of those who took the Feb test are applying next cycle, which I'm glad to see.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Black_Swan » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:47 pm

drawstring wrote:So Feb scores are out. Should be interesting to see how things shape up from here. It seems like a large majority of those who took the Feb test are applying next cycle, which I'm glad to see.


:mrgreen:

Does this hold true for hls?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby corporatebarbarian » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:03 pm

current cycle applicant here. took another shot at the LSAT after getting sub 170s in July - clocked a 178. here's hoping i'm still alive for HS




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