Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Where are you in the Harvard application process?

I'm applying next year, just reading this thread to prepare
38
12%
Applying this year, I got an extension on my application
1
0%
I applied and haven't gotten a JS1 yet
64
20%
I applied and got a JS1, but haven't had it yet.
7
2%
I had my JS1 but I'm waiting for a magical phone call
43
13%
Already had my JS2, just here to help
62
19%
Waitlisted
61
19%
Dinged D:
49
15%
 
Total votes: 325

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Gary » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:00 pm

Kobaine51 wrote:
esrom55 wrote:
No. The point here is that you have no idea if you would have gotten the Butler with your older score, so you can only speculate that you think it was due to your higher LSAT score. The reality is that you could have gotten the Butler even without the retake, and your higher score had no influence on your receiving the Butler.


I like the admonishment of speculation quickly succeeded by baseless speculation.


So ironic

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby nabadgelyo » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:00 pm

barrelofmonkeys wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah, we're getting sidetracked from the bigger issue which is that the other guy/gal should probably not retake the 176. WHERE ARE THE JS2s?!?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Tela1283 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:01 pm

nabadgelyo wrote:
barrelofmonkeys wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah, we're getting sidetracked from the bigger issue which is that the other guy/gal should probably not retake the 176. WHERE ARE THE JS2s?!?


What time do they typically go out?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby neprep » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:01 pm

Tela1283 wrote:
nabadgelyo wrote:
barrelofmonkeys wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah, we're getting sidetracked from the bigger issue which is that the other guy/gal should probably not retake the 176. WHERE ARE THE JS2s?!?


What time do they typically go out?


At a half past two.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:01 pm

Kobaine51 wrote:
esrom55 wrote:
No. The point here is that you have no idea if you would have gotten the Butler with your older score, so you can only speculate that you think it was due to your higher LSAT score. The reality is that you could have gotten the Butler even without the retake, and your higher score had no influence on your receiving the Butler.


I like the admonishment of speculation quickly succeeded by baseless speculation.


Esrom wasn't baselessly speculating - he was illustrating why your assumption that your Butler was due to your LSAT retake score was speculation. Thus, his/her use of the words "could have."

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby barrelofmonkeys » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:02 pm

Tela1283 wrote:
nabadgelyo wrote:
barrelofmonkeys wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah, we're getting sidetracked from the bigger issue which is that the other guy/gal should probably not retake the 176. WHERE ARE THE JS2s?!?


What time do they typically go out?


Afternoon, generally, anywhere from 2-7, usually closer to 3/4. But, I'm not actually expecting any today.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Tela1283 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:04 pm

Whys that? Because of Friday's wave?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby barrelofmonkeys » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:04 pm

Tela1283 wrote:Whys that? Because of Friday's wave?


Because I am a pessimist.
Also yes, because there were a decent-ish number at the end of last week.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:04 pm

barrelofmonkeys wrote:
Afternoon, generally, anywhere from 2-7, usually closer to 3/4. But, I'm not actually expecting any today.


And you were right last time, so I don't like this. But I'm going to try what I did last time.

I don't think any are coming out today.

Whenever I say they aren't coming out, they do.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:05 pm

barrelofmonkeys wrote:
Tela1283 wrote:Whys that? Because of Friday's wave?


Because I am a pessimist.
Also yes, because there were a decent-ish number at the end of last week.


Yeah, we are actually ahead of schedule compared to last year at this point.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby selden » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:06 pm

I would speculate we should some early this week (tomorrow, Wednesday) given that we had another wave of dings at the end of the last week.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:07 pm

selden wrote:I would speculate we should some early this week (tomorrow, Wednesday) given that we had another wave of dings at the end of the last week.


We also had JS2s on Friday of last week as well.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby chneyo » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:09 pm

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:12 pm

If anyone is curious:

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby rseaney » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:17 pm

fivestarfolds wrote:
barrelofmonkeys wrote:
Kobaine51 wrote:So I'm thinking about retaking if I don't do well this cycle to go 176 -> 180. It seems to me that there is a substantial enough difference in admission chances with those few points to make it worthwhile. Obviously you absorb some risk retaking, but it seems like the median difference from first take to second take is +3 at least, and I was substantially outperforming my real test on PTs. I'm sure some of you are in the same boat, what do you think?


I very personally think it looks silly to retake a 176 (unless your sole purpose is to see if you can hit 180 and you aren't even applying to law school anymore).

If I were an adcom, I'd be like "this kid wasted 5 or more hours retaking a 176 when he could have actually done something worthwhile?" Whether the score went up or down, I'd frown upon it.

This is a clear cut case. Withdraw and retake.


+1
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Tela1283 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:19 pm

Question: if I anticipate being out of the country for a few months, should I contact harvard before I leave (assuming I don't hear by then)? I feel like that'd be presumptuous, but they wouldn't be able to call me...

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby neprep » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:22 pm

Tela1283 wrote:Question: if I anticipate being out of the country for a few months, should I contact harvard before I leave (assuming I don't hear by then)? I feel like that'd be presumptuous, but they wouldn't be able to call me...


If SLS is any precedent, you'll get an email saying "we tried to call you but couldn't get through, so please accept this JS2 via email."

ETA: screenshots of this email make great Instagram updates. (They do not).
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby NapoleonXV » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:25 pm

Tela1283 wrote:Question: if I anticipate being out of the country for a few months, should I contact harvard before I leave (assuming I don't hear by then)? I feel like that'd be presumptuous, but they wouldn't be able to call me...


I think you definitely should contact them. I contacted them a couple of months ago to change my contact details.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby rseaney » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:29 pm

barrelofmonkeys wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah, we're getting sidetracked from the bigger issue which is that the other guy/gal should probably not retake the 176. WHERE ARE THE JS2s?!?



+1

btw this thread has been filled with encouragement and kind words since i've been on it; lets not start getting too snippity folkz

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby chneyo » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:31 pm

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby selden » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:34 pm

lawschool22 wrote:If anyone is curious:

- graph of decisions that I am too new to quote and will take up a lot of space anyway -


Interesting. So of the last 2 years, F2 (this week? am I counting right?) one was just a dead week and one had JS2s only. Given the long weekend, I'm hoping they decide to push some stuff out before the short week.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:41 pm

selden wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:If anyone is curious:

- graph of decisions that I am too new to quote and will take up a lot of space anyway -


Interesting. So of the last 2 years, F2 (this week? am I counting right?) one was just a dead week and one had JS2s only. Given the long weekend, I'm hoping they decide to push some stuff out before the short week.


The dead week is this years'. This graph is for the current cycle and the previous cycle. So F2 could change for 13/14 if there is any activity this week.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby selden » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:45 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
selden wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:If anyone is curious:

- graph of decisions that I am too new to quote and will take up a lot of space anyway -


Interesting. So of the last 2 years, F2 (this week? am I counting right?) one was just a dead week and one had JS2s only. Given the long weekend, I'm hoping they decide to push some stuff out before the short week.


The dead week is this years'. This graph is for the current cycle and the previous cycle. So F2 could change for 13/14 if there is any activity this week.


Oops. Yeah, my bad. A week with only JS2s would be a nice change from the last few weeks though.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby chneyo » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:55 pm

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby drawstring » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:19 pm

The-Specs wrote:Also, in my JS1 my interviewer discussed my application from last year with me and it seemed that I got major points for applying twice because it showed I was committed to going to Harvard and that I was willing to work and improve for what I wanted.
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I hope this is the case if I get dinged this year!




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