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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:42 pm
by politics89
NYU_Ugrad_Paralegal wrote:
politics89 wrote:
NYU_Ugrad_Paralegal wrote:Anybody here already live in the Boston/Cambridge area?


I do, which is a major reason I would think about reapplying if it came to that :|


Poli if that is your real LSAT score I HIGHLY doubt you'll have trouble getting in.


Thanks, I still have moments of self-doubt though. Especially since I just had to move and sign a new year's lease here so that'll also be a factor in the decision process.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:48 pm
by Optimist Prime
lawschool22 wrote:
NoDayButToday wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:For you folks who would consider turning down CCN to wait another year for HLS, I'm curious what some of your career goals are? I'm not disagreeing with that choice, I'm just wondering what all you would be considering and thinking about before making that decision.


My consideration would be strictly personal preference.

Chicago is too damn cold; don't know if NY might be a little too urban....

Family ties to H.


That makes sense. I guess if it were me I would have to decide if the opportunity cost of waiting out another year of a lawyer's salary would be worth it. It would be like adding another $60k-$160k to your tuition bill.


Assuming you retire at the same age regardless of when you go to law school, wouldn't this result in losing one year of your pre-retirement (and probably high/highest) salary - so opportunity cost is more like 500K+ in 2050 dollars. This obviously depends on a lot of assumptions about your career plan and trajectory.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:50 pm
by lawschool22
Optimist Prime wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
NoDayButToday wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:For you folks who would consider turning down CCN to wait another year for HLS, I'm curious what some of your career goals are? I'm not disagreeing with that choice, I'm just wondering what all you would be considering and thinking about before making that decision.


My consideration would be strictly personal preference.

Chicago is too damn cold; don't know if NY might be a little too urban....

Family ties to H.


That makes sense. I guess if it were me I would have to decide if the opportunity cost of waiting out another year of a lawyer's salary would be worth it. It would be like adding another $60k-$160k to your tuition bill.


Assuming you retire at the same age regardless of when you go to law school, wouldn't this result in losing one year of your pre-retirement (and probably high/highest) salary - so opportunity cost is more like 500K+ in 2050 dollars. This obviously depends on a lot of assumptions about your career plan and trajectory.


Yeah probably, plus you lose out on some investment interest, etc. But that 500k in today's dollars is around $150k assuming 3% rate and 40 years. So the overall point is the same, there is some level of opportunity cost you would at least want to consider.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:53 pm
by drawstring
Ya, it's definitely worth thinking about the opportunity cost, but I imagine for a lot of people it's about more than money.

I think I'd have a lot of regrets if I didn't end up going to HYS.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:53 pm
by midwest17
Optimist Prime wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
NoDayButToday wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:For you folks who would consider turning down CCN to wait another year for HLS, I'm curious what some of your career goals are? I'm not disagreeing with that choice, I'm just wondering what all you would be considering and thinking about before making that decision.


My consideration would be strictly personal preference.

Chicago is too damn cold; don't know if NY might be a little too urban....

Family ties to H.


That makes sense. I guess if it were me I would have to decide if the opportunity cost of waiting out another year of a lawyer's salary would be worth it. It would be like adding another $60k-$160k to your tuition bill.


Assuming you retire at the same age regardless of when you go to law school, wouldn't this result in losing one year of your pre-retirement (and probably high/highest) salary - so opportunity cost is more like 500K+ in 2050 dollars. This obviously depends on a lot of assumptions about your career plan and trajectory.


Putting things in terms of future dollars isn't very helpful. I don't know how many yachts 500K will buy me in 2050. :P

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:55 pm
by lawschool22
drawstring wrote:Ya, it's definitely worth thinking about the opportunity cost, but I imagine for a lot of people it's about more than money.


Oh I know the reasons are not money-related. My point isn't that you should be thinking about this so that you can make the most money possible. My point is just to consider whether the intangible reasons for wanting Harvard over CCN are worth enough to you to "spend" an extra $150k. Just food for thought.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:55 pm
by lawschool22
midwest17 wrote:Putting things in terms of future dollars isn't very helpful. I don't know how many yachts 500K will buy me in 2050. :P


Lol agreed. See above, I put it in PV, assuming 3% ROR and 40 years.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:56 pm
by Optimist Prime
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Assuming you retire at the same age regardless of when you go to law school, wouldn't this result in losing one year of your pre-retirement (and probably high/highest) salary - so opportunity cost is more like 500K+ in 2050 dollars. This obviously depends on a lot of assumptions about your career plan and trajectory.[/quote]

Putting things in terms of future dollars isn't very helpful. I don't know how many yachts 500K will buy me in 2050. :P[/quote]

Eleventyseven yachts. Guaranteed.

Edit: I clearly suck at foruming, sorry about the misused quote tags

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:01 pm
by paglababa
lol when I think about money, going to Harvard or any place at sticker (which I feel like anyone currently making 80k+ as an independent won't be getting much aid), seems like a bad idea. This is why I try not to think about money...

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:02 pm
by Gary
everyone forgets TCR: going to CCN, being one of the top 10 kids in the class, then transfer to Yale :wink:

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:05 pm
by Optimist Prime
Gmail is now saying I have 104 new messages, but won't let me see any of them. Maybe it's 104 email acceptances to Harvard? Or an even 100 acceptances to Harvard and 4 acceptances to Yale.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:07 pm
by MrMileyCyrus
Y'all are too caught up on focusing on the lost money.

Money is a McMansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after ten years, but power is the old stone building that stands for centuries. I cannot respect someone who doesn't see the difference.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:08 pm
by koalacity
MrMileyCyrus wrote:Y'all are too caught up on focusing on the lost money.

Money is a McMansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after ten years, but power is the old stone building that stands for centuries. I cannot respect someone who doesn't see the difference.

180 House of Cards reference.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:09 pm
by lawschool22
MrMileyCyrus wrote:Y'all are too caught up on focusing on the lost money.

Money is a McMansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after ten years, but power is the old stone building that stands for centuries. I cannot respect someone who doesn't see the difference.


I love that show. We are just bored lol.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:10 pm
by Optimist Prime
MrMileyCyrus wrote:Y'all are too caught up on focusing on the lost money.

Money is a McMansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after ten years, but power is the old stone building that stands for centuries. I cannot respect someone who doesn't see the difference.


Yes, but money will get you a meeting with a movie star... like Mrs. Mr. MileyCyrus

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... -chat.html

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:30 pm
by politics89
Marshmallow wrote:
politics89 wrote:
NYU_Ugrad_Paralegal wrote:Anybody here already live in the Boston/Cambridge area?


I do, which is a major reason I would think about reapplying if it came to that :|


samesies. really sucks walking by harvard all the time thinking i probably won't get in.


The worst is constantly getting calls from unknown 617 numbers.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:36 pm
by sup_stan
Optimist Prime wrote:Gmail is now saying I have 104 new messages, but won't let me see any of them. Maybe it's 104 email acceptances to Harvard? Or an even 100 acceptances to Harvard and 4 acceptances to Yale.


Since you have so many, could you maybe spare one for me? Either H or Y is fine. Thanks.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:38 pm
by SplitMyPants
politics89 wrote:
Marshmallow wrote:
politics89 wrote:
NYU_Ugrad_Paralegal wrote:Anybody here already live in the Boston/Cambridge area?


I do, which is a major reason I would think about reapplying if it came to that :|


samesies. really sucks walking by harvard all the time thinking i probably won't get in.


The worst is constantly getting calls from unknown 617 numbers.


Well their main number is 617-495-XXXX. If it's anything like my school, all their numbers will be 617-495-XXXX. Not that that would keep anyone from always having their heart skip a beat for any 617 number.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:42 pm
by wtrc
I don't have the number, but on the iPhone it definitely says "Cambridge, MA."

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:48 pm
by Kimikho
wtrc wrote:I don't have the number, but on the iPhone it definitely says "Cambridge, MA."


I think I would faint right there.

Also, I'm TLSing from the Microsoft store while my computer charges. :| 8) :lol: :mrgreen:

I do not recommend a Dell XPS 12 tablet thingy this thing is weird.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:54 pm
by barrelofmonkeys
I'm just starting to realize that every day until the beginning of APRIL (that's more than 60 days from now) could be just like this, until the first waitlists come out.

Of course, I'd probably catch on at some point before then, but, still, the not-knowingness is really getting to me.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:54 pm
by FuriousDuck
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:56 pm
by gold4canada
Just received a JS1 request. Anyone care to share any interview tips (ie. format, questions, what to wear, what to have in the background, etc)?

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:01 pm
by barrelofmonkeys
gold4canada wrote:Just received a JS1 request. Anyone care to share any interview tips (ie. format, questions, what to wear, what to have in the background, etc)?


They are alive!

Also, hth: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=200887&hilit

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:03 pm
by drawstring
barrelofmonkeys wrote:the not-knowingness is really getting to me.


X2