Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Share Your Experiences, Read About Other Experiences. Please keep posts organized by school and expected year of graduation.

Where are you in the Harvard application process?

I'm applying next year, just reading this thread to prepare
38
12%
Applying this year, I got an extension on my application
1
0%
I applied and haven't gotten a JS1 yet
64
20%
I applied and got a JS1, but haven't had it yet.
7
2%
I had my JS1 but I'm waiting for a magical phone call
43
13%
Already had my JS2, just here to help
62
19%
Waitlisted
61
19%
Dinged D:
49
15%
 
Total votes: 325

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby brich256 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:59 pm

Just to be sure, we haven't seen any JS2's from people that had a JS1 after 12/10, right?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Mort_the_Tort » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:01 pm

a current 1L posted in this thread that they heard last year on Friday before winter break

I realize we're focused on JS1/JS2's and that's what this thread is for

but it's also a place where we can help each other maintain perspective

regardless, there is already plenty to celebrate with family and friends this holiday break without needing a JS1 or JS2

just keep that in mind as we move into 2014, and don't let the absence of a JS1 or JS2 diminish this very special time of the year, which should be all about hope, faith, and love

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby cotiger » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:01 pm

rseaney wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
scoobers wrote:
paglababa wrote:Man i can't believe ~400 JS1s won't get JS2. This scares me.


this.


I think it's closer to about 342 if that makes you guys feel any better :). (1200 estimated JS1's minus 858 offers last cycle)





Are we pretty certain that this year will have 1200 JS1s like last year did? Also, anyone have any idea what portion of those 858 JS2s have been filled, and how many are admitted off the waitlist later on?


LSN typically has 15-20% of the Harvard acceptances, which means there should be 130-170 acceptances on there by the end. LSN lists 59 acceptances thus far, so probably about 40% of the total offers have been made.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... SlE&gid=30

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:04 pm

rseaney wrote:
Are we pretty certain that this year will have 1200 JS1s like last year did? Also, anyone have any idea what portion of those 858 JS2s have been filled, and how many are admitted off the waitlist later on?


There are 149 members of the Facebook group, but obviously not everyone admitted has joined, and probably like 7 or 8 of those are current students there to help.

For reference, there were (or are now, at least) 641 members of last years Facebook group.

When I was admitted, I got an email about an hour or so later with a link to the Facebook group, and after I sent the request I was approved a few hours later. I suspect many people haven't joined it yet.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Gary » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:06 pm

someone post a js2 so i know whether to be anxious all day or not....

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:10 pm

cotiger wrote:
LSN typically has 15-20% of the Harvard acceptances, which means there should be 130-170 acceptances on there by the end. LSN lists 59 acceptances thus far, so probably about 40% of the total offers have been made.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... SlE&gid=30


This scares me.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby paglababa » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:11 pm

The post JS1 wait is a whole different level of Dante's inferno. I keep thinking I sounded completely retarded. I wasn't even sure where to look on my laptop. Also my interview felt ridiculously short.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby drawstring » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:13 pm

This Christmas break is going to be tough :shock:

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby drawstring » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:17 pm

Do we know if they'll be in on Monday?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Workingtitle » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:21 pm

paglababa wrote:The post JS1 wait is a whole different level of Dante's inferno. I keep thinking I sounded completely retarded. I wasn't even sure where to look on my laptop. Also my interview felt ridiculously short.


Don't worry man, I think that's how everyone feels. My interview flew by.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Workingtitle » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:23 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
cotiger wrote:
LSN typically has 15-20% of the Harvard acceptances, which means there should be 130-170 acceptances on there by the end. LSN lists 59 acceptances thus far, so probably about 40% of the total offers have been made.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... SlE&gid=30


This scares me.


Maybe more people are just using LSN this year? It's tough for me to imagine over half of the people who have been accepted haven't joined the FB group.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby nabadgelyo » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:24 pm

drawstring wrote:Do we know if they'll be in on Monday?


Harvard's staff vacation is from 12/24 to 1/1, for what it's worth. So it's possible.
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby dubster101 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:25 pm

Gary wrote:someone post a js2 so i know whether to be anxious all day or not....


+1

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby drawstring » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:29 pm

I've got the feeling there will be no JS2s today. Please Monday!!!

January looks like a horrible month for those who applied in October

http://mylsn.info/whenwilliknow.php

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:31 pm

drawstring wrote:I've got the feeling there will be no JS2s today. Please Monday!!!


Yeah I think we would have heard some rumblings by now.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby cotiger » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:32 pm

Workingtitle wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
cotiger wrote:
LSN typically has 15-20% of the Harvard acceptances, which means there should be 130-170 acceptances on there by the end. LSN lists 59 acceptances thus far, so probably about 40% of the total offers have been made.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... SlE&gid=30


This scares me.


Maybe more people are just using LSN this year? It's tough for me to imagine over half of the people who have been accepted haven't joined the FB group.


I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:33 pm

cotiger wrote:
Workingtitle wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
cotiger wrote:
LSN typically has 15-20% of the Harvard acceptances, which means there should be 130-170 acceptances on there by the end. LSN lists 59 acceptances thus far, so probably about 40% of the total offers have been made.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... SlE&gid=30


This scares me.


Maybe more people are just using LSN this year? It's tough for me to imagine over half of the people who have been accepted haven't joined the FB group.


I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.


You're still scaring me cotiger

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby cotiger » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:38 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
cotiger wrote:
Workingtitle wrote:Maybe more people are just using LSN this year? It's tough for me to imagine over half of the people who have been accepted haven't joined the FB group.


I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.


You're still scaring me cotiger


Doing my best! :P

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby drawstring » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:43 pm

Well I'm off.

If I don't get a JS2 on Monday then January becomes a dangerous time for me. Good luck to everyone!

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby koalacity » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:44 pm

cotiger wrote:I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.

:shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:52 pm

koalacity wrote:
cotiger wrote:I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.

:shock: :shock: :shock:


One thing I just thought of that made me feel better. We're already four months into the cycle. There are only two more full months that people can submit. So actually it makes a little sense, if anything by that measure we are a little behind schedule.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby prospect2014 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:56 pm

4 months in but we're not anywhere close to 2/3rds of the way through. They start accepting apps in Sept but don't start reviewing until mid Oct. then you figure there's a 2 week gap between invite and JS1. So a better way to look at it is that so far we've spanned the Oct 15<->Dec 10 interviews. Which is two months. Dunno if applications are frontloaded or backloaded but they conduct JS1s well into Mar/Apr so there's still late Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, early Apr. or 4 months of JS1s to go through. so if anything they're probably 33-40% the way through, and 45%+ isn't a comforting figure to look at for those who are still waiting

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby edwardt1988 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:06 pm

prospect2014 wrote:4 months in but we're not anywhere close to 2/3rds of the way through. They start accepting apps in Sept but don't start reviewing until mid Oct. then you figure there's a 2 week gap between invite and JS1. So a better way to look at it is that so far we've spanned the Oct 15<->Dec 10 interviews. Which is two months. Dunno if applications are frontloaded or backloaded but they conduct JS1s well into Mar/Apr so there's still late Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, early Apr. or 4 months of JS1s to go through. so if anything they're probably 33-40% the way through, and 45%+ isn't a comforting figure to look at for those who are still waiting

This is assuming constant volume, which is most likely false. I'd say they've received about half their applications already, and given about 40% of their decision. They're pretty much on track. Everyone needs to stop fretting. It's Christmas, enjoy :lol:

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Workingtitle » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:16 pm

cotiger wrote: I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.


If Harvard has accepted 45% of their traditional 850ish acceptances, then that means that there have been about 382 people accepted. Considering that there are only 150 on the Harvard Class of 2017 Facebook group, that 382 number seems exceptionally high.

I think that there are a lot of reasons why we cannot extrapolate out of the LSN data like that. Maybe people on LSN are more likely to apply early and be accepted early, so that right now they are reflecting 75% of the total amount of people that have been accepted. Then, as more people who applied later get accepted, that percentage will decrease to reflect what it traditionally has in the past. Or, like I said, maybe these law school admissions websites are growing in popularity, so more people are using LSN.

I don't really know, but I think it makes more sense that the LSN data is not reflecting the proper percentage of those who have been accepted than to think that over half of the people who have been accepted haven't joined the Facebook group. I would think that people would be chomping at the bit to get on that group :)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby prospect2014 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:24 pm

edwardt1988 wrote:
prospect2014 wrote:4 months in but we're not anywhere close to 2/3rds of the way through. They start accepting apps in Sept but don't start reviewing until mid Oct. then you figure there's a 2 week gap between invite and JS1. So a better way to look at it is that so far we've spanned the Oct 15<->Dec 10 interviews. Which is two months. Dunno if applications are frontloaded or backloaded but they conduct JS1s well into Mar/Apr so there's still late Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, early Apr. or 4 months of JS1s to go through. so if anything they're probably 33-40% the way through, and 45%+ isn't a comforting figure to look at for those who are still waiting

This is assuming constant volume, which is most likely false. I'd say they've received about half their applications already, and given about 40% of their decision. They're pretty much on track. Everyone needs to stop fretting. It's Christmas, enjoy :lol:


well there's -receiving- half your applications and then there's getting to JS1 half your potential admittees. if you think they've already done 600 JS1s...

139 FBers, maybe 180-200 total JS2s, so 400 JS1s or 33% is a generous estimate

working title: what are your chances? go to LSN. But....we cannot extrapolate because LSN doesn't capture X Y Z variables. just an inconsistency there
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