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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:25 pm
by wtrc
scoobers wrote:also, JS1
YESSSSS CONGRATS SCOOBS!!!!!!

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:25 pm
by Mort_the_Tort
hey i've never met you

and this is crazy

but here's my number

so call me maybe

<3 <3 <3 JS ??? <3 <3 <3

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:26 pm
by tls2175
scoobers wrote:also, JS1
YAYAYAYAYAY! Congrats, scoobssssssss!

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:29 pm
by the_pakalypse
scoobers wrote:also, JS1
Congrats! Complete date?

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:33 pm
by I Used to Be a Spy
Very excited to get a JS1 invite. Is there a TCR for what time is best? Currently the dates are Jan 3rd or later.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:34 pm
by Kimikho
THANK YOU EVERYONE <3 I did not expect that lol :D
the_pakalypse wrote:
scoobers wrote:also, JS1
Congrats! Complete date?
beginning of December :D

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:35 pm
by lawschool22
midwest17 wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
midwest17 wrote:Congrats everyone! Too many names to list!

LS22: can we get some date analytics on the spreadsheet? E.g. Most recent complete to receive JS1, most recent JS1 to receive JS2?
Good suggestion, I'll see what I can do! That'll keep me busy since zero actual work is getting done.
Thanks!

And in the meantime, does anyone know if December completes have started getting JS1s?
Done! Not sure how I figured those out...that was a new formula for me.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:35 pm
by IrishJew
I Used to Be a Spy wrote:Very excited to get a JS1 invite. Is there a TCR for what time is best? Currently the dates are Jan 3rd or later.
Great screenname and av!

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:37 pm
by lawschool22
I Used to Be a Spy wrote:Very excited to get a JS1 invite. Is there a TCR for what time is best? Currently the dates are Jan 3rd or later.
I'd go for the morning...they're less likely to be running behind and maybe a little fresher.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:38 pm
by Nonconsecutive
Congrats to all the new JS2s and JS1s!

You've brought it in style to both the LSAT and the admissions process. 8)

Time to sit back and enjoy your holidays.

Image

For all those still waiting, hang in there, still lots of time left.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:39 pm
by drawstring
What are the chances they're still to get to someone who interviewed a month ago? I feel like a waitlist is in my future........

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:42 pm
by mont4620
applelover wrote: To all those still waiting for JS2s: they didn't call in chronological order, so don't fret if your interview date seems to have been skipped over.
Do we know if this is still true?

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:42 pm
by 062914123
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:43 pm
by 2x2Matrix
IrishJew wrote:
Workingtitle wrote:Ok so I can't concentrate on anything besides this now, so I think I might as well get a discussion going. Does anyone have any opinion on splitters (like me :)) who have high GPAs but low LSAT scores? It seems to me like the conventional wisdom on here has been that Harvard is going to take a hit on their GPA median due to the lower number of applicants with 173+ LSAT scores. I understand this logic, but it leads to this question: by the same logic, why would Harvard not take a hit on their LSAT median to keep their GPA median up? It seems like this would actually be easier to do...

I guess maybe it's because the LSAT is weighed more heavily? I don't know, I'm just wondering what people's opinion is on prospects of splitters with lower LSATs but higher GPAs.
I've wondered this too, and I'd be curious to see the responses. There was a thread about splitters and reverse splitters somewhere and I asked a bunch of questions there, some of which got answered and some of which didn't. It sounds to me like the answer has two parts. First, awesome LSATs are harder to come by than awesome GPAs. Woth ~100K test takers are year there are only about 2000 LSATs in the 98th percentile. With grade inflation etc. there are probably much more A averages than 170+ LSATs. This means that a school could protect both numbers by taking a mix of people who are strong in both + splitters. I could be TOTALLY wrong here, but that's how some of the explanations sounded to me and they seem to make some sense.

Second, is that maybe they will take some reverse splitters. There are probably more splitters and reversers than there are strong/strongs, so it may be "cheaper" for a school to ensure good medians by getting 50% good LSATs and 50% good GPAs than to find 50% good in both. Honestly I have no idea how true that is, but using LSN data someone with a 171 LSAT and 4.0 (reverse splitter) has a better chance (http://mylsn.info/2qo0eq) at Harvard than someone with a 172 and a 3.8 (http://mylsn.info/796zv1) who is just below median in both. A >75th <25th splitter or reverser probably fares better than someone who's 49th/49th, even if the latter may be a "better" candidate. But I just did that quickly and the sample size is very small, so I could be full of sh**.

Anyway, good luck to you, dude! I'm freaking out waiting for JS2 over here and as blind as anyone about who gets 'em and why.
Right, I think having >75 LSAT goes a lot further than >75 GPA. As someone who was >75 GPA and <25 LSAT, I consider myself extremely lucky to have gotten in. It's just how the application scene is right now, I guess, for better or worse.


And congrats to all the new JS2s today!

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:44 pm
by ShrimpToastMasters
Anymore calls, especially for December interviews?!?!?!

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:47 pm
by lawschool22
ShrimpToastMasters wrote:Anymore calls, especially for December interviews?!?!?!
I would expect we'll see more. Yesterday there were 11 spreadsheet people accepted, today so far we have three.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:48 pm
by dubster101
ShrimpToastMasters wrote:Anymore calls, especially for December interviews?!?!?!
+1

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:49 pm
by brich256
ShrimpToastMasters wrote:Anymore calls, especially for December interviews?!?!?!
I hope so...I really don't know if I can do the holidays without knowing about getting a JS2...

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:49 pm
by Leo
lawschool22 wrote:
ShrimpToastMasters wrote:Anymore calls, especially for December interviews?!?!?!
I would expect we'll see more. Yesterday there were 11 spreadsheet people accepted, today so far we have three.
So what you're saying is that I should make 100 entries to improve my chances, right? Trust me, I'm an engineer.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:59 pm
by Ren
JS1 this morning!!!!!! My heart is still racing.

(went complete 12/12)

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:02 pm
by Nonconsecutive
Ren wrote:JS1 this morning!!!!!! My heart is still racing.

(went complete 12/12)
Congrats! Glad to see they are still rolling out the JS1s as well.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:08 pm
by gb47
For those of us that had JS1s this week, when would be the earliest we could hear back?

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:08 pm
by Workingtitle
drawstring wrote:What are the chances they're still to get to someone who interviewed a month ago? I feel like a waitlist is in my future........
Honestly, I haven't looked at all the data trends like a lot of people have, but it makes sense to me that as the process unfolds Harvard is putting people in admit, maybe, and rejection piles. Once they get through all their definite admits, then they'll go back and look at the maybes. From that group some will be accepted, some rejected, and some waitlisted. This is totally just what I think makes intuitive sense though.

So what I'm saying is just because you haven't gotten a JS2 yet, doesn't mean you won't get one (we all know that logical fallacy).

Plus, we have seen people who interviewed as far back as 11/11 getting JS2 this cycle, so you still may get one before Christmas.

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:09 pm
by t-14orbust
2x2Matrix wrote:
Right, I think having >75 LSAT goes a lot further than >75 GPA. As someone who was >75 GPA and <25 LSAT, I consider myself extremely lucky to have gotten in. It's just how the application scene is right now, I guess, for better or worse.


And congrats to all the new JS2s today!
lol at the MBB bro

Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:11 pm
by stephenholder
Answered an unlisted number just to be safe, let myself get talked into a cable upgrade.