Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Where are you in the Harvard application process?

I'm applying next year, just reading this thread to prepare
38
12%
Applying this year, I got an extension on my application
1
0%
I applied and haven't gotten a JS1 yet
64
20%
I applied and got a JS1, but haven't had it yet.
7
2%
I had my JS1 but I'm waiting for a magical phone call
43
13%
Already had my JS2, just here to help
62
19%
Waitlisted
61
19%
Dinged D:
49
15%
 
Total votes: 325

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:11 pm

lawschool22 wrote:

Yeah I am sure the chances are not 70% across the board. There are certain people with JS1's who have a 99% chance of a JS2 (based on their numbers) and another portion of people who probably have less than 20% chance (based on their numbers), and obviously some who are on the bubble where the interview could make the difference between an admit/WL/deny.

It would be really interesting to get the data on this, but unfortunately that will probably never happen. :)


I'm sure it wouldn't be fully representative, but LS22, in a few months (at the end of the cycle) is it possible to break down the data in your spreadsheet to help determine this kind of stuff? Somebody that gets in could post a link to the spreadsheet in the Facebook group for HLS admits to increase the sample size.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:13 pm

wtrc wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:

Yeah I am sure the chances are not 70% across the board. There are certain people with JS1's who have a 99% chance of a JS2 (based on their numbers) and another portion of people who probably have less than 20% chance (based on their numbers), and obviously some who are on the bubble where the interview could make the difference between an admit/WL/deny.

It would be really interesting to get the data on this, but unfortunately that will probably never happen. :)


I'm sure it wouldn't be fully representative, but LS22, in a few months (at the end of the cycle) is it possible to break down the data in your spreadsheet to help determine this kind of stuff? Somebody that gets in could post a link to the spreadsheet in the Facebook group for HLS admits to increase the sample size.


Yeah I was just thinking about that. I definitely think we can learn a few things from that data, such as if you get a JS1, what are the odds of getting a JS2, based on your LSAT/GPA combo. I'll have to think about how exactly to do that.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby almondjoy » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:31 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
wtrc wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:

Yeah I am sure the chances are not 70% across the board. There are certain people with JS1's who have a 99% chance of a JS2 (based on their numbers) and another portion of people who probably have less than 20% chance (based on their numbers), and obviously some who are on the bubble where the interview could make the difference between an admit/WL/deny.

It would be really interesting to get the data on this, but unfortunately that will probably never happen. :)


I'm sure it wouldn't be fully representative, but LS22, in a few months (at the end of the cycle) is it possible to break down the data in your spreadsheet to help determine this kind of stuff? Somebody that gets in could post a link to the spreadsheet in the Facebook group for HLS admits to increase the sample size.


Yeah I was just thinking about that. I definitely think we can learn a few things from that data, such as if you get a JS1, what are the odds of getting a JS2, based on your LSAT/GPA combo. I'll have to think about how exactly to do that.

Don't get me wrong, I think all this stuff is great and is a big help but I think this is one of the reasons JS supposedly has a disdain for tls. I don't think adcoms like their process being broken down so much.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:32 pm

almondjoy wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
wtrc wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:

Yeah I am sure the chances are not 70% across the board. There are certain people with JS1's who have a 99% chance of a JS2 (based on their numbers) and another portion of people who probably have less than 20% chance (based on their numbers), and obviously some who are on the bubble where the interview could make the difference between an admit/WL/deny.

It would be really interesting to get the data on this, but unfortunately that will probably never happen. :)


I'm sure it wouldn't be fully representative, but LS22, in a few months (at the end of the cycle) is it possible to break down the data in your spreadsheet to help determine this kind of stuff? Somebody that gets in could post a link to the spreadsheet in the Facebook group for HLS admits to increase the sample size.


Yeah I was just thinking about that. I definitely think we can learn a few things from that data, such as if you get a JS1, what are the odds of getting a JS2, based on your LSAT/GPA combo. I'll have to think about how exactly to do that.

Don't get me wrong, I think all this stuff is great and is a big help but I think this is one of the reasons JS supposedly has a disdain for tls. I don't think adcoms like their process being broken down so much.


I'm sure they don't like it, but hey, we're doing it for all the T-14, so she can at least get a better idea of what her competition is doing. There's nothing wrong with us using each individual's voluntarily submitted data to get a better idea of how the process works. It's what any well-informed applicant would do.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Gary » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:37 pm

almondjoy wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
wtrc wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:

Yeah I am sure the chances are not 70% across the board. There are certain people with JS1's who have a 99% chance of a JS2 (based on their numbers) and another portion of people who probably have less than 20% chance (based on their numbers), and obviously some who are on the bubble where the interview could make the difference between an admit/WL/deny.

It would be really interesting to get the data on this, but unfortunately that will probably never happen. :)


I'm sure it wouldn't be fully representative, but LS22, in a few months (at the end of the cycle) is it possible to break down the data in your spreadsheet to help determine this kind of stuff? Somebody that gets in could post a link to the spreadsheet in the Facebook group for HLS admits to increase the sample size.


Yeah I was just thinking about that. I definitely think we can learn a few things from that data, such as if you get a JS1, what are the odds of getting a JS2, based on your LSAT/GPA combo. I'll have to think about how exactly to do that.

Don't get me wrong, I think all this stuff is great and is a big help but I think this is one of the reasons JS supposedly has a disdain for tls. I don't think adcoms like their process being broken down so much.


i see what you're saying, but tons of admissions offices also hate when people post employment stats for their schools as well. that shouldn't matter to us, the more knowledge the better.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:44 pm

I think the problem isn't in the raw data but the interpretation of the data. For example, GULC being known as inferior to the other 13 schools in the top-tier might be inaccurate, since people are not allowing for the fact that a lot of people go to Georgetown not intending to be in big-law. Or when people say schools don't care about softs, which would be an assumption based on numbers alone, and the schools think this is an oversimplification (and it probably is, for the most part). I doubt schools really get upset by the aggregation as much as the interpretation, but this is just a guess, obviously.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:02 pm

wtrc wrote:I think the problem isn't in the raw data but the interpretation of the data. For example, GULC being known as inferior to the other 13 schools in the top-tier might be inaccurate, since people are not allowing for the fact that a lot of people go to Georgetown not intending to be in big-law. Or when people say schools don't care about softs, which would be an assumption based on numbers alone, and the schools think this is an oversimplification (and it probably is, for the most part). I doubt schools really get upset by the aggregation as much as the interpretation, but this is just a guess, obviously.


Yeah that's true. They probably don't like some of those "conventional wisdom" type things that get ingrained into the collective consciousness here. Hopefully the interpretation of the data in the spreadsheet is objective enough to not anger JS, since I want her to call me :D

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby 04102014 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:05 pm

sup nerds

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby almondjoy » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:12 pm

lawschool22 wrote:Yeah that's true. They probably don't like some of those "conventional wisdom" type things that get ingrained into the collective consciousness here. Hopefully the interpretation of the data in the spreadsheet is objective enough to not anger JS, since I want her to call me :D

+1

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:13 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:sup nerds


Not much - just lots of anxious people ITT

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Kimikho » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:15 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:sup nerds


i love your tar so much

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby everett2014 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:26 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:sup nerds


I'm just going to pretend that you're *actually* Tom Daley coming to comfort me in these times of unending anxiety.

*swoon*

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby 04102014 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:32 pm

everett2014 wrote:
ohpobrecito wrote:sup nerds


I'm just going to pretend that you're *actually* Tom Daley coming to comfort me in these times of unending anxiety.

*swoon*


I just might be...

:shock:

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:32 pm

Plurality consensus on the poll is getting close to being proven untrue. Not giving up yet for today though.

:cry:

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby 04102014 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:32 pm

scoobers wrote:
ohpobrecito wrote:sup nerds


i love your tar so much


I love you so much :wink:

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Kimikho » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:33 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:
scoobers wrote:
ohpobrecito wrote:sup nerds


i love your tar so much


I love you so much :wink:


<3

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby 04102014 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:34 pm

People are so sad in the Columbia thread right now, but it's not looking much better here. :cry:

Tis the season.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:37 pm

wtrc wrote:Plurality consensus on the poll is getting close to being proven untrue. Not giving up yet for today though.

:cry:


The problem is the plurality in the poll is always to choose the nearest option :)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Kimikho » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:37 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:People are so sad in the Columbia thread right now, but it's not looking much better here. :cry:

Tis the season.



Image

well, we are approaching the long dark of Christmas to New Years :|

and my predetermined "start thinking about a retake" moment

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:38 pm

scoobers wrote:Image

well, we are approaching the long dark of Christmas to New Years :|

and my predetermined "start thinking about a retake" moment


There HAS to be a wave of JS2's before then...

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:41 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
wtrc wrote:Plurality consensus on the poll is getting close to being proven untrue. Not giving up yet for today though.

:cry:


The problem is the plurality in the poll is always to choose the nearest option :)


No, this plurality was more disciplined- only chose the SECOND to nearest option! :D

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Kimikho » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:42 pm

wtrc get acknowledged in survivor i'm tired of blocking you already

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby CitrusFruit » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:45 pm

I have a theory that the calls will come when lawschool22 stops posting.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:55 pm

CitrusFruit wrote:I have a theory that the calls will come when lawschool22 stops posting.


My ability to detect internet sarcasm vs. seriousness vs. humor right now is not working, so I'm not sure how to read this...

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby 04102014 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:57 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
CitrusFruit wrote:I have a theory that the calls will come when lawschool22 stops posting.


My ability to detect internet sarcasm vs. seriousness vs. humor right now is not working, so I'm not sure how to read this...


Sounds to me like CitrusFruit wants to throw down.




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