Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Where are you in the Harvard application process?

I'm applying next year, just reading this thread to prepare
38
12%
Applying this year, I got an extension on my application
1
0%
I applied and haven't gotten a JS1 yet
64
20%
I applied and got a JS1, but haven't had it yet.
7
2%
I had my JS1 but I'm waiting for a magical phone call
43
13%
Already had my JS2, just here to help
62
19%
Waitlisted
61
19%
Dinged D:
49
15%
 
Total votes: 325

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby barrelofmonkeys » Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:53 am

cotiger wrote:
La.Chocolate wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
La.Chocolate wrote:If I applied in early December, what can I expect to be the average hear-back time (JS1 or reject)?


Check the spreadsheet on page 1 of this thread.


I did but I only saw applied date and accepted date...I'm assuming JS1 must be close to the accepted date...but wanted to get a clearer idea of when JS1 usually occurs if you applied in early Dec.


The spreadsheet indictates that the average wait between complete and interview request is 13.3 days.


:|

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:05 am

barrelofmonkeys wrote:
cotiger wrote:
The spreadsheet indictates that the average wait between complete and interview request is 13.3 days.


:|


There's still a pretty wide variance. If you plot the data it's fairly scattered.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby barrelofmonkeys » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:08 am

lawschool22 wrote:
barrelofmonkeys wrote:
cotiger wrote:
The spreadsheet indictates that the average wait between complete and interview request is 13.3 days.


:|


There's still a pretty wide variance. If you plot the data it's fairly scattered.


you're fairly scattered!

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby barrelofmonkeys » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:09 am

zing

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:21 am

barrelofmonkeys wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
barrelofmonkeys wrote:
cotiger wrote:
The spreadsheet indictates that the average wait between complete and interview request is 13.3 days.


:|


There's still a pretty wide variance. If you plot the data it's fairly scattered.


you're fairly scattered!


Boom! I was trying to make you feel better :)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby barrelofmonkeys » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:24 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
Boom! I was trying to make you feel better :)


It's okay. I feel better.
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:34 pm

barrelofmonkeys wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
Boom! I was trying to make you feel better :)


It's okay. I feel better.
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:wink:

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:35 pm

Sitting at a diner, having eggs and potatoes, working on a memo for work, waiting for exciting news.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:37 pm

wtrc wrote:Sitting at a diner, having eggs and potatoes, working on a memo for work, waiting for exciting news.


Placing lunch order at work, sitting in a conference room, working on a memo, waiting for exciting news. :)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:42 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
wtrc wrote:Sitting at a diner, having eggs and potatoes, working on a memo for work, waiting for exciting news.


Placing lunch order at work, sitting in a conference room, working on a memo, waiting for exciting news. :)


Trying to decide if I should eat leftover General Tso's chicken, sitting at my desk, making a binder, hoping for exciting news.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:46 pm

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
wtrc wrote:Sitting at a diner, having eggs and potatoes, working on a memo for work, waiting for exciting news.


Placing lunch order at work, sitting in a conference room, working on a memo, waiting for exciting news. :)


Trying to decide if I should eat leftover General Tso's chicken, sitting at my desk, making a binder, hoping for exciting news.


"Hoping" is more credited than the waiting, good call.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby barrelofmonkeys » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:47 pm

wtrc wrote:"Hoping" is more credited than the waiting, good call.


Disappointed in you. There is only one credited response.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:47 pm

wtrc wrote:
ShrimpToastMasters wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
wtrc wrote:Sitting at a diner, having eggs and potatoes, working on a memo for work, waiting for exciting news.


Placing lunch order at work, sitting in a conference room, working on a memo, waiting for exciting news. :)


Trying to decide if I should eat leftover General Tso's chicken, sitting at my desk, making a binder, hoping for exciting news.


"Hoping" is more credited than the waiting, good call.


+1

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:47 pm

wtrc wrote:
ShrimpToastMasters wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
wtrc wrote:Sitting at a diner, having eggs and potatoes, working on a memo for work, waiting for exciting news.


Placing lunch order at work, sitting in a conference room, working on a memo, waiting for exciting news. :)


Trying to decide if I should eat leftover General Tso's chicken, sitting at my desk, making a binder, hoping for exciting news.


"Hoping" is more credited than the waiting, good call.


:)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Gary » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:03 pm

Random q, does anyone know the percentage of js1s to js2s back when Harvard did phone interviews? I was talking to a 3L there and he said a js1 was just a formality.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:04 pm

Gary wrote:Random q, does anyone know the percentage of js1s to js2s back when Harvard did phone interviews? I was talking to a 3L there and he said a js1 was just a formality.


I've heard similarly. It wasn't JS, though, it was JR (Josh Rubenstein was the Dean of Admissions, I believe).

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Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:25 pm

Gary wrote:Random q, does anyone know the percentage of js1s to js2s back when Harvard did phone interviews? I was talking to a 3L there and he said a js1 was just a formality.


They have definitely increased the number of interviews since introducing Skype, but even when they did phone interviews, they interviewed around 1,000 people (http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/10/16/Harvard-Law-School-Skype/), so at least recently it was more than just a formality.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby everett2014 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:27 pm

Gary wrote:Random q, does anyone know the percentage of js1s to js2s back when Harvard did phone interviews? I was talking to a 3L there and he said a js1 was just a formality.


Yeah, I remember when my ex was applying to law schools two cycles ago, she was actually far more excited about her KB1 than her KB2. Apparently prevailing wisdom at that time was that the KB1 was just to "weed out the crazies." (although I'm sure that's an extremely simplistic analysis of the interview process)


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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby barrelofmonkeys » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:31 pm

What's the percentage now, of JS1-->JS2?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:38 pm

barrelofmonkeys wrote:What's the percentage now, of JS1-->JS2?


Last year they conducted just over 1,200 interviews, iirc, and ~850 people were admitted. So just over 70%. More than a formality, but chances were pretty good once a JS1 was offered (considering acceptance rate is like 13% beforehand).

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby koalacity » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:44 pm

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby edwardt1988 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:45 pm

everett2014 wrote:
Gary wrote:Random q, does anyone know the percentage of js1s to js2s back when Harvard did phone interviews? I was talking to a 3L there and he said a js1 was just a formality.


Yeah, I remember when my ex was applying to law schools two cycles ago, she was actually far more excited about her KB1 than her KB2. Apparently prevailing wisdom at that time was that the KB1 was just to "weed out the crazies." (although I'm sure that's an extremely simplistic analysis of the interview process)


Edited for anachronism


I wonder if there's two groups: People on the bubble that have to kind of prove it during the interview, and people that are basically in, except they have to prove they're not crazy. The js1-js2 rates would be very different among the two obviously.

I think it's more likely that anyone who gets an interview they'd grant a spot to, if they had enough spots. I'm sure a % of those js1 - no js2 just screw themselves out of a spot by having a terrible interview, and the rest of js1- no js2 are probably just unlucky that someone with similar numbers had a slightly better interview

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Gary » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:52 pm

Before my js1 I had harvard successfully out of my mind and never checked this thread.... After it, I already finished every page :?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby edwardt1988 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:52 pm

Also, I don't know if the rate of 70% is going to be the same this year(I hope so, or higher!), but it's an excellent success rate for an interview, and not everyone gets js1s so if you get one, you should be pretty happy with yourself regardless of what happens next

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:58 pm

edwardt1988 wrote:
everett2014 wrote:
Gary wrote:Random q, does anyone know the percentage of js1s to js2s back when Harvard did phone interviews? I was talking to a 3L there and he said a js1 was just a formality.


Yeah, I remember when my ex was applying to law schools two cycles ago, she was actually far more excited about her KB1 than her KB2. Apparently prevailing wisdom at that time was that the KB1 was just to "weed out the crazies." (although I'm sure that's an extremely simplistic analysis of the interview process)


Edited for anachronism


I wonder if there's two groups: People on the bubble that have to kind of prove it during the interview, and people that are basically in, except they have to prove they're not crazy. The js1-js2 rates would be very different among the two obviously.

I think it's more likely that anyone who gets an interview they'd grant a spot to, if they had enough spots. I'm sure a % of those js1 - no js2 just screw themselves out of a spot by having a terrible interview, and the rest of js1- no js2 are probably just unlucky that someone with similar numbers had a slightly better interview



Yeah I am sure the chances are not 70% across the board. There are certain people with JS1's who have a 99% chance of a JS2 (based on their numbers) and another portion of people who probably have less than 20% chance (based on their numbers), and obviously some who are on the bubble where the interview could make the difference between an admit/WL/deny.

It would be really interesting to get the data on this, but unfortunately that will probably never happen. :)




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