Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Where are you in the Harvard application process?

I'm applying next year, just reading this thread to prepare
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12%
Applying this year, I got an extension on my application
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0%
I applied and haven't gotten a JS1 yet
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20%
I applied and got a JS1, but haven't had it yet.
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2%
I had my JS1 but I'm waiting for a magical phone call
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13%
Already had my JS2, just here to help
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19%
Waitlisted
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19%
Dinged D:
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15%
 
Total votes: 325

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Gary » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:11 pm

My prediction is that there will be a big wave on 12/20 or 12/23. Also what is the consensus on people with short js1s or not being asked why harvard?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:13 pm

Gary wrote:My prediction is that there will be a big wave on 12/20 or 12/23. Also what is the consensus on people with short js1s or not being asked why harvard?


You think there will be nothing before 12/20? I would be really surprised (but then, I have been really surprised there was nothing this week yet, so idk)....

Re the second point, I wouldn't read too much into it. It's Harvard, the "why" is pretty obvious :)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby edwardt1988 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:24 pm

Gary wrote:My prediction is that there will be a big wave on 12/20 or 12/23. Also what is the consensus on people with short js1s or not being asked why harvard?


And I get to be included in it? Then IM ALL FOR IT

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Gary » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:29 pm

wtrc wrote:
Gary wrote:My prediction is that there will be a big wave on 12/20 or 12/23. Also what is the consensus on people with short js1s or not being asked why harvard?


You think there will be nothing before 12/20? I would be really surprised (but then, I have been really surprised there was nothing this week yet, so idk)....

Re the second point, I wouldn't read too much into it. It's Harvard, the "why" is pretty obvious :)


Idk, last year there was just a big wave then and it makes sense for them to get it out before the holidays (there's no js1s scheduled after 11 that Friday).

And short interviews don't seem to be indicative of anything either?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby andapieceoftoast » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:32 pm

wtrc wrote:
Gary wrote:My prediction is that there will be a big wave on 12/20 or 12/23. Also what is the consensus on people with short js1s or not being asked why harvard?


You think there will be nothing before 12/20? I would be really surprised (but then, I have been really surprised there was nothing this week yet, so idk)....

Re the second point, I wouldn't read too much into it. It's Harvard, the "why" is pretty obvious :)


So as someone who had a JS1 in early November and no JS2 yet, this may or may not be worthwhile. However, I agree with wtrc. I don't think the "Why X" question is as important to Harvard as it is to other schools. They're certainly not worried about YP (though some schools deny this exists) and therefore for the most part don't need to feel out whether the candidate has a compelling reason to attend. Obviously a good answer to this question can only help the applicant, but I don't think not getting asked that question is any indication of whether or not they consider you a viable candidate for acceptance.
Based on my JS1, which was very conversational and organically steered from one topic to another, there really wasn't a reason to ask point-blank "Why Harvard."
Again, this was just my personal experience and my opinion FWIW.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby tls2175 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:41 pm

Gary wrote:And short interviews don't seem to be indicative of anything either?

Honestly, I don't think the length of the JS1 is indicative of anything. My JS1 went for a full 20 minutes and she ended it with "Well, we've run out of time." Although it was on the longer end, I don't think my JS1 went well. I don't think I was true to myself and tried too hard to find the "perfect" answers that ended up coming across as false.

I think the more important factor is the impression you make, which doesn't have to take that long at all. I'm sure, after interviewing hundreds of applicants, each interviewer can get a feel for an applicant within the first 5-10 minutes. I would even venture that your manner of delivery and attitude is at least as important as the content of your interview (which they already know from your application).

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby sup_stan » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:43 pm

JS2 will most likely come on 23rd or 24th; from this year's spreadsheet and last year's data, JS2 is done in waves. Last year's Christmas wave included some JS1's that interviewed one day before (don't remember the exact date, but it's something like JS1 on the 20th, and JS2 one day after, and not with mind-blowing stats either. Check last year's Harvard thread). When I scheduled my JS1, I saw that the 20th was the last available day for the current JS1 cohort and some spots were already taken on that date, so I think it is logical to assume that JS2 will come after all of the current JS1 cohort have interviewed. And then the Christmas JS2 wave will thus include people from all the pre-Christmas JS1's who have not been admitted yet.

Just my theory, I will be very glad to be proved wrong though.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby applelover » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:46 pm

sup_stan wrote:JS2 will most likely come on 23rd or 24th; from this year's spreadsheet and last year's data, JS2 is done in waves. Last year's Christmas wave included some JS1's that interviewed one day before (don't remember the exact date, but it's something like JS1 on the 20th, and JS2 one day after, and not with mind-blowing stats either. Check last year's Harvard thread). When I scheduled my JS1, I saw that the 20th was the last available day for the current JS1 cohort and some spots were already taken on that date, so I think it is logical to assume that JS2 will come after all of the current JS1 cohort have interviewed. And then the Christmas JS2 wave will thus include people from all the pre-Christmas JS1's who have not been admitted yet.

Just my theory, I will be very glad to be proved wrong though.


Let me make sure Im reading this correctly. You think in one day JS is going to call 6 weeks of interviewees? Because she hasn't called anyone from 11/13 onwards yet.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby sup_stan » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:08 pm

applelover wrote:
sup_stan wrote:JS2 will most likely come on 23rd or 24th; from this year's spreadsheet and last year's data, JS2 is done in waves. Last year's Christmas wave included some JS1's that interviewed one day before (don't remember the exact date, but it's something like JS1 on the 20th, and JS2 one day after, and not with mind-blowing stats either. Check last year's Harvard thread). When I scheduled my JS1, I saw that the 20th was the last available day for the current JS1 cohort and some spots were already taken on that date, so I think it is logical to assume that JS2 will come after all of the current JS1 cohort have interviewed. And then the Christmas JS2 wave will thus include people from all the pre-Christmas JS1's who have not been admitted yet.

Just my theory, I will be very glad to be proved wrong though.


Let me make sure Im reading this correctly. You think in one day JS is going to call 6 weeks of interviewees? Because she hasn't called anyone from 11/13 onwards yet.



This year, the first JS2 wave lasted two days: from 11/25-11/26, and it covers the entire applicant body from September to 11/13 or whenever (I seem to remember someone from this thread who reported to have JS1 one or two days before 11/25 was nevertheless included in the first JS2 wave, I could be wrong). Like I said, I am guessing the Christmas wave will similarly come after the last JS1 before Christmas to cover all the JS1 who have not heard back at that point, and it might last one or two days depending on the number of applicants they intend to admit. Calling six weeks of admitted students is not that hard considering JS2 is very short and they usually just leave a voice message to let you know you are admitted if you did not answer.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lastsamurai » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:13 pm

I bet they want to buck the unlucky Friday the 13th superstition by calling a large wave tomorrow. Then I bet there is a smaller wave coming the Monday before Christmas

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby jingosaur » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:15 pm

lastsamurai wrote:I bet they want to buck the unlucky Friday the 13th superstition by calling a large wave tomorrow. Then I bet there is a smaller wave coming the Monday before Christmas


I think JS2s will come on 12/20, but tomorrow is still a likely possibility. If I don't get a JS2 before Christmas, I'm going to become a nervous wreck.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby applelover » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:26 pm

sup_stan wrote:
applelover wrote:
sup_stan wrote:JS2 will most likely come on 23rd or 24th; from this year's spreadsheet and last year's data, JS2 is done in waves. Last year's Christmas wave included some JS1's that interviewed one day before (don't remember the exact date, but it's something like JS1 on the 20th, and JS2 one day after, and not with mind-blowing stats either. Check last year's Harvard thread). When I scheduled my JS1, I saw that the 20th was the last available day for the current JS1 cohort and some spots were already taken on that date, so I think it is logical to assume that JS2 will come after all of the current JS1 cohort have interviewed. And then the Christmas JS2 wave will thus include people from all the pre-Christmas JS1's who have not been admitted yet.

Just my theory, I will be very glad to be proved wrong though.


Let me make sure Im reading this correctly. You think in one day JS is going to call 6 weeks of interviewees? Because she hasn't called anyone from 11/13 onwards yet.



This year, the first JS2 wave lasted two days: from 11/25-11/26, and it covers the entire applicant body from September to 11/13 or whenever (I seem to remember someone from this thread who reported to have JS1 one or two days before 11/25 was nevertheless included in the first JS2 wave, I could be wrong). Like I said, I am guessing the Christmas wave will similarly come after the last JS1 before Christmas to cover all the JS1 who have not heard back at that point, and it might last one or two days depending on the number of applicants they intend to admit. Calling six weeks of admitted students is not that hard considering JS2 is very short and they usually just leave a voice message to let you know you are admitted if you did not answer.


No, the first JS2 wave covers interviews from late October to November 12, not applicants who applied before November 12th. But who interviewed on or before that date.

To be even more specific, the first day of calls were to applicants who interviewed up until 11/04 and the second day of calls were to applicants who interviewed on or before 11/12. Now, we have had 4 weeks of interviewees since those first two days of calls who have not heard back (11/13- Present). I don't think them covering 5.5 weeks of interviewees (if they do it on the 23rd or 24th) in two days is likely. Especially, when it took them two days before just to cover 3 weeks of interviews earlier in the cycle.


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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby midwest17 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:28 pm

sup_stan wrote:This year, the first JS2 wave lasted two days: from 11/25-11/26, and it covers the entire applicant body from September to 11/13 or whenever (I seem to remember someone from this thread who reported to have JS1 one or two days before 11/25 was nevertheless included in the first JS2 wave, I could be wrong). Like I said, I am guessing the Christmas wave will similarly come after the last JS1 before Christmas to cover all the JS1 who have not heard back at that point, and it might last one or two days depending on the number of applicants they intend to admit. Calling six weeks of admitted students is not that hard considering JS2 is very short and they usually just leave a voice message to let you know you are admitted if you did not answer.


Is this accurate? I seem to remember people earlier in the thread saying that they don't leave a voice mail, and try to call again.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:30 pm

applelover wrote:
sup_stan wrote:
applelover wrote:
sup_stan wrote:JS2 will most likely come on 23rd or 24th; from this year's spreadsheet and last year's data, JS2 is done in waves. Last year's Christmas wave included some JS1's that interviewed one day before (don't remember the exact date, but it's something like JS1 on the 20th, and JS2 one day after, and not with mind-blowing stats either. Check last year's Harvard thread). When I scheduled my JS1, I saw that the 20th was the last available day for the current JS1 cohort and some spots were already taken on that date, so I think it is logical to assume that JS2 will come after all of the current JS1 cohort have interviewed. And then the Christmas JS2 wave will thus include people from all the pre-Christmas JS1's who have not been admitted yet.

Just my theory, I will be very glad to be proved wrong though.


Let me make sure Im reading this correctly. You think in one day JS is going to call 6 weeks of interviewees? Because she hasn't called anyone from 11/13 onwards yet.



This year, the first JS2 wave lasted two days: from 11/25-11/26, and it covers the entire applicant body from September to 11/13 or whenever (I seem to remember someone from this thread who reported to have JS1 one or two days before 11/25 was nevertheless included in the first JS2 wave, I could be wrong). Like I said, I am guessing the Christmas wave will similarly come after the last JS1 before Christmas to cover all the JS1 who have not heard back at that point, and it might last one or two days depending on the number of applicants they intend to admit. Calling six weeks of admitted students is not that hard considering JS2 is very short and they usually just leave a voice message to let you know you are admitted if you did not answer.


No, the first JS2 waves covers interviews from late october to November 12, not applicants who applied before november 12th. But who interviewed ON or BEFORE that date.

The first two days of JS2s only covered applicants who interviewed up until 11/12. The first day was applicants who interviewed up until 11/04 and the second was applicants who interviewed on or before 11/12. Now, we have had 4 weeks of interviewees since those first two days of calls who have not heard back (11/13- Present). I don't think them covering 5.5 weeks of interviewees (If they do it on the 23rd or 24th) in two days is likely. Especially, when it took them two days before just to cover 2.5 weeks of interviews earlier in the cycle.


Yeah I wouldn't be at all surprised if we saw two waves between now and Christmas. But at this point it's anyone's guess.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby applelover » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:33 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah I wouldn't be at all surprised if we saw two waves between now and Christmas. But at this point it's anyone's guess.


I think two JS2 waves are more likely. Maybe one next week, and one right before Christmas. When specifically is up in the air. But I don't think they plan to cover that many interviews in one wave of calls. But I could be wrong and OP could be right. We will see in ten days.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby The-Specs » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:36 pm

Unless they only going to accept a few of them...

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:43 pm

The-Specs wrote:Unless they only going to accept a few of them...


True

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby bart001 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:03 pm

how long does it take to get an interview invite (for those who are getting them)? Submitted my application in beginning/middle November. Thanks!

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:07 pm

bart001 wrote:how long does it take to get an interview invite (for those who are getting them)? Submitted my application in beginning/middle November. Thanks!


According to the spreadsheet the average is 13 days. But it can definitely vary.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby andapieceoftoast » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:16 pm

Thank you Glozell for expressing what I cannot:

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:11 pm

This thread is seriously like in danger of falling off the front page.

WE NEED SOME ACTION

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:14 pm

wtrc wrote:This thread is seriously like in danger of falling off the front page.

WE NEED SOME ACTION


We need some JS2s :)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby drawstring » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:14 pm

the JS2 silence is painful..........

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:17 pm

Maybe JS has a thing for Friday the 13th

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby Kimikho » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:28 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
wtrc wrote:This thread is seriously like in danger of falling off the front page.

WE NEED SOME ACTION


We need some JS2s :)


or maybe some JS1s?

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