Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Where are you in the Harvard application process?

I'm applying next year, just reading this thread to prepare
38
12%
Applying this year, I got an extension on my application
1
0%
I applied and haven't gotten a JS1 yet
64
20%
I applied and got a JS1, but haven't had it yet.
7
2%
I had my JS1 but I'm waiting for a magical phone call
43
13%
Already had my JS2, just here to help
62
19%
Waitlisted
61
19%
Dinged D:
49
15%
 
Total votes: 325

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby illyria » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:17 am

Ren wrote:My status checker has said "complete" for a few days now, but I have not received any emails from them about going complete. Is this normal? Should I call? WHAT'S GOING ON?!


I think it's pretty normal. I got the complete email four days after my status went complete.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby andapieceoftoast » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:53 am

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:56 am

andapieceoftoast wrote:--ImageRemoved--


This sums up my week - it has been very slow on the status tracker / decision front.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:00 pm

More good news from Spivey:

MikeSpivey wrote:WOW, only 14,171 applicants as of 12/06 and applications are down 15.7 from this point last cycle.

http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/ ... ear-volume

I am super, super cereal (anyone?), mad-dash this cycle!

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:03 pm

lawschool22 wrote:More good news from Spivey:

MikeSpivey wrote:WOW, only 14,171 applicants as of 12/06 and applications are down 15.7 from this point last cycle.

http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/ ... ear-volume

I am super, super cereal (anyone?), mad-dash this cycle!


Awesome news!

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby andapieceoftoast » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:05 pm

Spivey is pretty hilarious.

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And yeah, that's amazing news!

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby almondjoy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:05 pm

Could this explain the delay in the next wave of acceptance calls?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:06 pm

almondjoy wrote:Could this explain the delay in the next wave of acceptance calls?


That's what I've been saying. It's my pet theory lol :)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:13 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
almondjoy wrote:Could this explain the delay in the next wave of acceptance calls?


That's what I've been saying. It's my pet theory lol :)


I wonder when we will see the data about if the decline in applicants with a 170+ is, percentage-wise, greater than the overall decline in applicants, as was the case last year.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:14 pm

wtrc wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
almondjoy wrote:Could this explain the delay in the next wave of acceptance calls?


That's what I've been saying. It's my pet theory lol :)


I wonder when we will see the data about if the decline in applicants with a 170+ is, percentage-wise, greater than the overall decline in applicants, as was the case last year.


Yep this is the missing piece. We need that bandwidth data. But my hunch is yes, or you wouldn't see delays from top schools that we are seeing.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby luckystar84 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:23 pm

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:26 pm

luckystar84 wrote:
wtrc wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
almondjoy wrote:Could this explain the delay in the next wave of acceptance calls?


That's what I've been saying. It's my pet theory lol :)


I wonder when we will see the data about if the decline in applicants with a 170+ is, percentage-wise, greater than the overall decline in applicants, as was the case last year.


wtrc: if schools are truly "waiting" to see how the applicant pool shapes out, wouldn't they be in a rush to gobble up an applicant like you? there are quite a few applicants like citrus who just have monster stats--besides YP, why would a school think hold off on autoadmits just to wait to see if they should take chances on borderline candidates?


Don't they usually do JS2's in waves? My guess is they are waiting to pull the trigger on a wave of admits which contains some applicants who might be below a previously established "floor." They could also simply be waiting on more applicants; perhaps the pace is slower than last year and they want to review and interview more applicants before sending out the next wave.

Of course this is all speculation.
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:26 pm

JS1 today!

Last minute tips anyone?

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby The-Specs » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:27 pm

lawschool22 wrote:More good news from Spivey:

MikeSpivey wrote:WOW, only 14,171 applicants as of 12/06 and applications are down 15.7 from this point last cycle.

http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/ ... ear-volume

I am super, super cereal (anyone?), mad-dash this cycle!


This is great, but i'm mostly impresssed that applications are down in Canada as well.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:28 pm

LuckyStar--- that's what I don't totally get and complicates the theory. It's still quite early though, it could be they decided to just be later for everyone as they wait to see how this develops.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby t-14orbust » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:28 pm

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:JS1 today!

Last minute tips anyone?


Shots

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby wtrc » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:29 pm

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:JS1 today!

Last minute tips anyone?


Good luck! Just don't stress, be yourself, it's more of a conversation, rather than an interview.

Also ask them when the next round of JS2's are coming and put in a good word for me

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby andapieceoftoast » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:29 pm

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:JS1 today!

Last minute tips anyone?


Know your resume/app inside and out and you should do great! Be prepared to explain how your past school/work experiences fit into your overall narrative of why you want to go to LS.
No surprises when I had mine - just be enthusiastic and be yourself!

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby The-Specs » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:31 pm

lawschool22 wrote:Don't they usually do JS2's in waves? My guess is they are waiting to pull the trigger on a wave of admits which contains some applicants who might be below a previously established "floor." They could also simply be waiting on more applicants; perhaps the pace is slower than last year and they want to review and interview more applicants before sending out the next wave.

Of course this is all speculation.


The only problem with this theory is, well, me. I am below the 3.6 GPA floor that Harvard is notorious for and I got accepted in the first round of JS2's. I am anything but an auto-admit, in fact I saw myself closer to an auto-ding an an auto-admit. It may seem anecdotal but there are 4 of us that I count below that GPA floor. If they were waiting for a better picture of the "floor" they wouldn't have admitted us.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:36 pm

The-Specs wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:Don't they usually do JS2's in waves? My guess is they are waiting to pull the trigger on a wave of admits which contains some applicants who might be below a previously established "floor." They could also simply be waiting on more applicants; perhaps the pace is slower than last year and they want to review and interview more applicants before sending out the next wave.

Of course this is all speculation.


The only problem with this theory is, well, me. I am below the 3.6 GPA floor that Harvard is notorious for and I got accepted in the first round of JS2's. I am anything but an auto-admit, in fact I saw myself closer to an auto-ding an an auto-admit. It may seem anecdotal but there are 4 of us that I count below that GPA floor. If they were waiting for a better picture of the "floor" they wouldn't have admitted us.


True. We all know admissions is far from an exact science, so none of my theories are meant to apply to every circumstance. You applied pretty early IIRC, maybe that had an effect? Also wasn't your LSAT somewhere in the 75thish neighborhood? I think in the past a <25th GPA and 75th LSAT still had a fairly decent shot at acceptance.

What I'm getting at is this year I am wondering if they're not going to be more lenient with that GPA floor for people closer to their median LSAT. This is primarily based on Spivey's discussion that 173+ LSATs are going to be in very short supply this year. The latest application data that just came out today only supports that theory. I could be way way off, it's just fun to contemplate :)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby lawschool22 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:45 pm

luckystar84 wrote:
The-Specs wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:Don't they usually do JS2's in waves? My guess is they are waiting to pull the trigger on a wave of admits which contains some applicants who might be below a previously established "floor." They could also simply be waiting on more applicants; perhaps the pace is slower than last year and they want to review and interview more applicants before sending out the next wave.

Of course this is all speculation.


The only problem with this theory is, well, me. I am below the 3.6 GPA floor that Harvard is notorious for and I got accepted in the first round of JS2's. I am anything but an auto-admit, in fact I saw myself closer to an auto-ding an an auto-admit. It may seem anecdotal but there are 4 of us that I count below that GPA floor. If they were waiting for a better picture of the "floor" they wouldn't have admitted us.


not the only problem, since most of the top schools are actually on schedule, early (nyu, sls), or only -slightly- late when counting from thanksgiving (p, hls).

also, you guys were >75%, and I remember a few ~3.65s 176s from last cycle who got in at various points in the cycle (trojandave). shoot, a HUG ~3.7 178 got in during the most competitive cycle when their "floor" was 3.8. hls also seems to care about its 75%, so you guys help in that regard.


I guess we'll just have to wait and see. At some point the reduction in total applicants as well as the reduction in top scores will have to affect even the top schools.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)

Postby The-Specs » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:48 pm

lawschool22 wrote:I guess we'll just have to wait and see. At some point the reduction in total applicants as well as the reduction in top scores will have to affect even the top schools.


Yeah, I don't disagree with this. I think SLS and YLS will be pretty well insulated because of their smaller class sizes but I think Harvard will get whacked because they have to take in SO many applicants to meet their quotas.

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