So ironicKobaine51 wrote:I like the admonishment of speculation quickly succeeded by baseless speculation.esrom55 wrote:
No. The point here is that you have no idea if you would have gotten the Butler with your older score, so you can only speculate that you think it was due to your higher LSAT score. The reality is that you could have gotten the Butler even without the retake, and your higher score had no influence on your receiving the Butler.
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barrelofmonkeys wrote:lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah, we're getting sidetracked from the bigger issue which isthat the other guy/gal should probably not retake the 176.WHERE ARE THE JS2s?!?
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What time do they typically go out?nabadgelyo wrote:barrelofmonkeys wrote:lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah, we're getting sidetracked from the bigger issue which isthat the other guy/gal should probably not retake the 176.WHERE ARE THE JS2s?!?
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At a half past two.Tela1283 wrote:What time do they typically go out?nabadgelyo wrote:barrelofmonkeys wrote:lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah, we're getting sidetracked from the bigger issue which isthat the other guy/gal should probably not retake the 176.WHERE ARE THE JS2s?!?
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Esrom wasn't baselessly speculating - he was illustrating why your assumption that your Butler was due to your LSAT retake score was speculation. Thus, his/her use of the words "could have."Kobaine51 wrote:I like the admonishment of speculation quickly succeeded by baseless speculation.esrom55 wrote:
No. The point here is that you have no idea if you would have gotten the Butler with your older score, so you can only speculate that you think it was due to your higher LSAT score. The reality is that you could have gotten the Butler even without the retake, and your higher score had no influence on your receiving the Butler.
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Afternoon, generally, anywhere from 2-7, usually closer to 3/4. But, I'm not actually expecting any today.Tela1283 wrote:What time do they typically go out?nabadgelyo wrote:barrelofmonkeys wrote:lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah, we're getting sidetracked from the bigger issue which isthat the other guy/gal should probably not retake the 176.WHERE ARE THE JS2s?!?
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Whys that? Because of Friday's wave?
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Because I am a pessimist.Tela1283 wrote:Whys that? Because of Friday's wave?
Also yes, because there were a decent-ish number at the end of last week.
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And you were right last time, so I don't like this. But I'm going to try what I did last time.barrelofmonkeys wrote:
Afternoon, generally, anywhere from 2-7, usually closer to 3/4. But, I'm not actually expecting any today.
I don't think any are coming out today.
Whenever I say they aren't coming out, they do.
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Yeah, we are actually ahead of schedule compared to last year at this point.barrelofmonkeys wrote:Because I am a pessimist.Tela1283 wrote:Whys that? Because of Friday's wave?
Also yes, because there were a decent-ish number at the end of last week.
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I would speculate we should some early this week (tomorrow, Wednesday) given that we had another wave of dings at the end of the last week.
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We also had JS2s on Friday of last week as well.selden wrote:I would speculate we should some early this week (tomorrow, Wednesday) given that we had another wave of dings at the end of the last week.
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If anyone is curious:
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+1fivestarfolds wrote:This is a clear cut case. Withdraw and retake.barrelofmonkeys wrote:I very personally think it looks silly to retake a 176 (unless your sole purpose is to see if you can hit 180 and you aren't even applying to law school anymore).Kobaine51 wrote:So I'm thinking about retaking if I don't do well this cycle to go 176 -> 180. It seems to me that there is a substantial enough difference in admission chances with those few points to make it worthwhile. Obviously you absorb some risk retaking, but it seems like the median difference from first take to second take is +3 at least, and I was substantially outperforming my real test on PTs. I'm sure some of you are in the same boat, what do you think?
If I were an adcom, I'd be like "this kid wasted 5 or more hours retaking a 176 when he could have actually done something worthwhile?" Whether the score went up or down, I'd frown upon it.
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Question: if I anticipate being out of the country for a few months, should I contact harvard before I leave (assuming I don't hear by then)? I feel like that'd be presumptuous, but they wouldn't be able to call me...
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If SLS is any precedent, you'll get an email saying "we tried to call you but couldn't get through, so please accept this JS2 via email."Tela1283 wrote:Question: if I anticipate being out of the country for a few months, should I contact harvard before I leave (assuming I don't hear by then)? I feel like that'd be presumptuous, but they wouldn't be able to call me...
ETA: screenshots of this email make great Instagram updates. (They do not).
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I think you definitely should contact them. I contacted them a couple of months ago to change my contact details.Tela1283 wrote:Question: if I anticipate being out of the country for a few months, should I contact harvard before I leave (assuming I don't hear by then)? I feel like that'd be presumptuous, but they wouldn't be able to call me...
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barrelofmonkeys wrote:lawschool22 wrote:
Yeah, we're getting sidetracked from the bigger issue which isthat the other guy/gal should probably not retake the 176.WHERE ARE THE JS2s?!?
+1
btw this thread has been filled with encouragement and kind words since i've been on it; lets not start getting too snippity folkz
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Interesting. So of the last 2 years, F2 (this week? am I counting right?) one was just a dead week and one had JS2s only. Given the long weekend, I'm hoping they decide to push some stuff out before the short week.lawschool22 wrote:If anyone is curious:
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The dead week is this years'. This graph is for the current cycle and the previous cycle. So F2 could change for 13/14 if there is any activity this week.selden wrote:Interesting. So of the last 2 years, F2 (this week? am I counting right?) one was just a dead week and one had JS2s only. Given the long weekend, I'm hoping they decide to push some stuff out before the short week.lawschool22 wrote:If anyone is curious:
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Oops. Yeah, my bad. A week with only JS2s would be a nice change from the last few weeks though.lawschool22 wrote:The dead week is this years'. This graph is for the current cycle and the previous cycle. So F2 could change for 13/14 if there is any activity this week.selden wrote:Interesting. So of the last 2 years, F2 (this week? am I counting right?) one was just a dead week and one had JS2s only. Given the long weekend, I'm hoping they decide to push some stuff out before the short week.lawschool22 wrote:If anyone is curious:
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I hope this is the case if I get dinged this year!The-Specs wrote:Also, in my JS1 my interviewer discussed my application from last year with me and it seemed that I got major points for applying twice because it showed I was committed to going to Harvard and that I was willing to work and improve for what I wanted.
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