WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby LyricsToLitigation » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:23 pm

AT9 wrote:Two negotiation questions:

1. If you're a non-T14 applicant, what schools are best to negotiate with WUSTL? It's the second highest ranked school to which I've been accepted, so I don't have some T14 offers to leverage a bunch of money. Instead I'll have stuff like UGA, W&M, Wake Forest, etc (with $$). Would they just laugh at lower ranked offers and stick to their initial offer of $51K?

2. With regard to seat deposit deadlines, are schools willing to push them back? My first deadlines start April 1/April 15, which doesn't leave a ton of time to negotiate.


+1 im curious too.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:34 pm

LyricsToLitigation wrote:
AT9 wrote:Two negotiation questions:

1. If you're a non-T14 applicant, what schools are best to negotiate with WUSTL? It's the second highest ranked school to which I've been accepted, so I don't have some T14 offers to leverage a bunch of money. Instead I'll have stuff like UGA, W&M, Wake Forest, etc (with $$). Would they just laugh at lower ranked offers and stick to their initial offer of $51K?

2. With regard to seat deposit deadlines, are schools willing to push them back? My first deadlines start April 1/April 15, which doesn't leave a ton of time to negotiate.


+1 im curious too.


1. Wustl was the highest ranked school I was accepted at, so I know where you're coming from here. At the local state school, I spoke to some of the 2012 grads who went on full rides. There were 5 in that class. 3 worked for large firms, 1 had a federal clerkship, and 1 was in shitlaw. (His classmates said he was lazy.) By that measure, I had an 80% shot at a desirable outcome, and that's how I used the much lower-ranked school for leverage.

2. I'm sure you could get an extension on the first deadline, but I ended up putting down 3 first round deposits. I pissed away about $450 that way. The second deposit deadline is more firm, but not drop dead. If you ask correctly, you should be able to get a week or two. This will allow them to see what their budget looks like after a bunch of people withdraw, and they have a better idea of what their budget looks like.

Start early, end late. Every time you ask for more money, a school is going to take a week or two to get back to you. That time adds up quick, and pretty soon you're up against deposit deadlines. These can be pushed, but definitely start sooner rather than later.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby sublime » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:37 pm

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby BankruptMe » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:58 pm

How much is the seat deposit?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby sublime » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:00 pm

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby BankruptMe » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:02 pm

sublime wrote:
BankruptMe wrote:How much is the seat deposit?



$300 on 4/15 and $500 on 6/1

http://law.wustl.edu/admissions/pages.aspx?id=8413


Ah, thats not bad. Thanks!

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby AT9 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:20 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
LyricsToLitigation wrote:
AT9 wrote:Two negotiation questions:

1. If you're a non-T14 applicant, what schools are best to negotiate with WUSTL? It's the second highest ranked school to which I've been accepted, so I don't have some T14 offers to leverage a bunch of money. Instead I'll have stuff like UGA, W&M, Wake Forest, etc (with $$). Would they just laugh at lower ranked offers and stick to their initial offer of $51K?

2. With regard to seat deposit deadlines, are schools willing to push them back? My first deadlines start April 1/April 15, which doesn't leave a ton of time to negotiate.


+1 im curious too.


1. Wustl was the highest ranked school I was accepted at, so I know where you're coming from here. At the local state school, I spoke to some of the 2012 grads who went on full rides. There were 5 in that class. 3 worked for large firms, 1 had a federal clerkship, and 1 was in shitlaw. (His classmates said he was lazy.) By that measure, I had an 80% shot at a desirable outcome, and that's how I used the much lower-ranked school for leverage.

2. I'm sure you could get an extension on the first deadline, but I ended up putting down 3 first round deposits. I pissed away about $450 that way. The second deposit deadline is more firm, but not drop dead. If you ask correctly, you should be able to get a week or two. This will allow them to see what their budget looks like after a bunch of people withdraw, and they have a better idea of what their budget looks like.

Start early, end late. Every time you ask for more money, a school is going to take a week or two to get back to you. That time adds up quick, and pretty soon you're up against deposit deadlines. These can be pushed, but definitely start sooner rather than later.
sublime wrote:
AT9 wrote:Two negotiation questions:

1. If you're a non-T14 applicant, what schools are best to negotiate with WUSTL? It's the second highest ranked school to which I've been accepted, so I don't have some T14 offers to leverage a bunch of money. Instead I'll have stuff like UGA, W&M, Wake Forest, etc (with $$). Would they just laugh at lower ranked offers and stick to their initial offer of $51K?

2. With regard to seat deposit deadlines, are schools willing to push them back? My first deadlines start April 1/April 15, which doesn't leave a ton of time to negotiate.


1. This is usually the school that you would actually be willing to attend. The higher the rank/more money the better, obviously - If a regional state school is giving you less/a comparable amount, and they don't believe that you would take that offer over theirs, you don't really have any leverage. Also be aware of your position compared to their medians, if below them, it is hard to have leverage there too.

2. These are usually pretty strict and non-negotiable IME. Although it is worth it to keep more than one alive if needed. I did.


Thanks to both of you for the input. I have a couple of lower ranked schools that would seriously be interested in attending (UGA for $40K or less, for instance), so I'll wait until I have most of my cards and I'll get moving.

Also, I have a 163/3.8x and got $51K. Another poster with a 163/3.9 got $60K today. It seems odd that they apparently threw the most money in this round at a couple of reverse splitters; does this reveal anything about their strategy?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby sublime » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:22 pm

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby burtmacklin » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:36 pm

Scholarship email showed up in my spam. Gmail definitely knew something, because I should have left it there lol let the negotiating begin, im interested to see just how much they'll jump on the first round

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby AT9 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:03 pm

sublime wrote:They are likely less worried about you guys using them as leverage at "better" schools. That is my best guess at least.


Makes sense. This isn't the first time I've seen a school low-ball high quality applicants. While it's not a typical YP strategy, I think they try to allocate the most money to people who are most likely to enroll - not necessarily the absolute best candidates. If you offer big $ to a stellar applicant, it's just leverage, and you lose the benefit of attracting decent applicants who are more likely to bite because you threw all the money at the leverage crowd.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby paulinams » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:43 pm

I've been reading the thread and there has been a lot on scholarships. If I got admitted 1/10 should I assume that if they do decide to give me one I won't hear until a bit later? Also, I don't know about anyone else but this law school cycle thing is super exciting!!! I was pre-med for much of undergrad and dreaded the thought of going to med school.. I'm crazy excited for law school though!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby LET'S GET IT » Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:08 am

I was accepted on 1/3 and haven't heard anything on $ yet. All of the ones I've seen today on LSN seem to have been admitted earlier so I was wondering if anyone admitted in January received scholarship information yet? If not what is everyone's best guess as to when we may hear? Seems like the biggest batch yet went out today.

Congrats to all those who got good offers and to all the recent admits by the way! Sorry so many of you are disappointed with your offers.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby bound » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:57 pm

Interview request today!

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby bostonbrewer » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:02 pm

Austinbound wrote:Interview request today!

Congrats, and best of luck!

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby bound » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:39 pm

bostonbrewer wrote:
Austinbound wrote:Interview request today!

Congrats, and best of luck!



Thanks!! I've been looking through this thread trying to find the interview advice but I'm having major trouble lol. This thread blew up the last few days with the $$ coming out.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby JustHawkin » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:46 pm

Austinbound wrote:

Thanks!! I've been looking through this thread trying to find the interview advice but I'm having major trouble lol. This thread blew up the last few days with the $$ coming out.


I used this:
meb1212 wrote:
Bajam wrote:I got some pms and I may have asked before earlier in the thread, but with my interview very soon I wanted to make sure I was ready for it. Were there any curveball questions? Please pm me if you don't feel comfortable posting it.

Things I'm prepping for:

Why WUSTL
Why Law
What are my career goals
Specific things regarding resume and PS
Why (insert undergrad)
Why (insert major)

Have questions to ask during/and at end

Anything else? Thanks in advance!


All that- and I was asked if I had been to St. Louis (I actually live here now), and if I planned on staying here after school. Mostly in relation to why WUSTL and why St. Louis.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby bound » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:48 pm

JustHawkin wrote:
Austinbound wrote:

Thanks!! I've been looking through this thread trying to find the interview advice but I'm having major trouble lol. This thread blew up the last few days with the $$ coming out.


I used this:
meb1212 wrote:
Bajam wrote:I got some pms and I may have asked before earlier in the thread, but with my interview very soon I wanted to make sure I was ready for it. Were there any curveball questions? Please pm me if you don't feel comfortable posting it.

Things I'm prepping for:

Why WUSTL
Why Law
What are my career goals
Specific things regarding resume and PS
Why (insert undergrad)
Why (insert major)

Have questions to ask during/and at end

Anything else? Thanks in advance!


All that- and I was asked if I had been to St. Louis (I actually live here now), and if I planned on staying here after school. Mostly in relation to why WUSTL and why St. Louis.



You da best.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby ManoftheHour » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:37 pm

Don't worry about the interview. It was really quite pleasant.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby BLUERUFiO » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:13 am

Austinbound wrote:Interview request today!

Me too! I'm excited. It's the first school I've heard anything from since applying Jan. 4th and 6th. Good luck to you!

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby gta » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:29 am

I've got a Skype interview next week. What's the consensus on attire? I suited up for my Vanderbilt interview (also Skype) and I got a compliment from the interviewer, although I felt strangely overdressed.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby Ricky-Bobby » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:12 am

gta wrote:I've got a Skype interview next week. What's the consensus on attire? I suited up for my Vanderbilt interview (also Skype) and I got a compliment from the interviewer, although I felt strangely overdressed.


I wore a suit to my in-person interview and it seemed normal.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby LyricsToLitigation » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:31 am

Hey all! I noticed a bunch of questions about the interview - I did the phone interview so I can't speak on attire, but I CAN speak on how friendly, open and genuinely attentive all the staff at wustl has been in my opinion. Just be yourselves and make sure, if applicable, to show how genuinely interested you are in the school. Good luck everyone!

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Postby NoDayButToday » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:55 am

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby JustHawkin » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:39 am

So what time window are we looking at for decision releases today?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 Cycle)

Postby bostonbrewer » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:55 am

JustHawkin wrote:So what time window are we looking at for decision releases today?

I got mine right around 5pm EST




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