Lebrarian_Booker wrote: scotth724 wrote:
Fiero85 wrote:We've discussed it some in the "Wash U Class of 2017" alternate thread (see the "Negotiating scholarships works!" thread too if curious), but again, there's not exactly an advantage to negotiating early, and it's not a race. If anything, the schools involved will have a better idea of what their developing class is looking like if you wait a bit. Remember, prospective students who negotiate are an overall minority, by all accounts. There's gonna be plenty of time to shoot a couple emails back and forth about $$$, and schools will be better preparred to do so in a few weeks when they are less swamped with admits/WL/rejects. Personally, as painful as it is, I'd wait until March 1 to negotiate, maybe last week of Feb. But that's just my (0L) 2 cents. Good luck everybody!
What do you think is the process of negotiating when you have no other good options to negotiate with? For me I feel like it will come down to: I need more to attend/if I get this much I will definitely attend.
Although you may have a "more convincing" case if you have other offers to present, the reality of it is that all you need on your side is "I won't attend your institution". In the end, it's the same to them whether you go to Harvard instead of their school or sit in your parents basement instead of their school--they're trying to get you to attend, and so long as you aren't sufficiently incented to do so, if they want you as a student, they must incent you further.
Edit: To speak to my point a bit further: you just need a reason for not attending that they believe. It could be you got a full ride to Harvard and need more money from them to attend, it could be that you didn't even apply anywhere else but you're unwilling to shoulder that much debt. Either way, if they don't give you more $ you're not attending, what do they care what other offers you have?
Not sure I agree with this logic. At schools with small admit classes (that is where the # of admits is close to the # of matrics) this may be the case. However, schools near USNWR20 admit a lot more students than they need to matriculate. As such, they don't care whether you go to Harvard or your parents couch, but the medians and 25ths are riding on which students of the admit class actually matriculate. They will sling money at the higher numbered admits and let low numbered admits sweat it out.
(Within reason, they aren't going to sling money at a 3.9/173 unless they have real reason to believe they want WUSTL. Thus, negotiating without other offers has little to do with the other schools. It's all about do they need this persons numbers to help with their medians? If so, do they need to give her/him more money to keep him here?
They actually already know what percentage of admits they want to matriculate, meaning they know what percentage are acceptable losses. They expect many of us to go to Harvard/our parents' basements.