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Re: Michigan Applicants C/O 2017 (Applicants 2013-2014)

Postby EzraFitz » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:19 pm

It's my understanding that the update is automatic every day, and simply displays the status for that day. So if they made a decision, it would appear at 6 am the next day. So today's update was automatic.

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Postby phillywc » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:34 pm

ChuckBass wrote:It's my understanding that the update is automatic every day, and simply displays the status for that day. So if they made a decision, it would appear at 6 am the next day. So today's update was automatic.


This is mostly true, but only when they made decisions the previous day or at least looked at something. On the 21st or 22nd the date didn't change.

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Re: Michigan Applicants C/O 2017 (Applicants 2013-2014)

Postby EzraFitz » Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:06 pm

My date hasn't changed the past two Sundays

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Re: Michigan Applicants C/O 2017 (Applicants 2013-2014)

Postby linkx13 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:38 pm

So, if one applied but isn't in yet, does that mean Darrow scholarship is out of the question?

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Re: Michigan Applicants C/O 2017 (Applicants 2013-2014)

Postby HorseThief » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:49 pm

linkx13 wrote:So, if one applied but isn't in yet, does that mean Darrow scholarship is out of the question?


I wouldn't say that. Interviews are for another few weeks, so if you only recently applied, they might still offer a Darrow.

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Re: Michigan Applicants C/O 2017 (Applicants 2013-2014)

Postby EzraFitz » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:49 pm

linkx13 wrote:So, if one applied but isn't in yet, does that mean Darrow scholarship is out of the question?

There have been Darrow invites after the new year in the past. So not out of the question.

ETA: Scooped

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Re: Michigan Applicants C/O 2017 (Applicants 2013-2014)

Postby Power_of_Facing » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:06 pm

Anyone else not been shown any scholly love yet? I am feeling disheartened. My heart feels dissed and distended.

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Postby logical seasoning » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:40 pm

Power_of_Facing wrote:Anyone else not been shown any scholly love yet? I am feeling disheartened. My heart feels dissed and distended.


From my understanding most of the awards will go out January onwards. I am assuming that the people that got their schollies already either applied super early or have really strong numbers

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Postby dusters » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:53 pm

From what I've heard it has just been Darrow invitations and Dean's scholarships so far. Should hear back in February for the rest of us.

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Postby Michigan1442 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:21 pm

I hope this doesn't come off as sounding ungrateful, but is there any chance that the Dean's scholarships could be increased at some point? Or maybe that additional aid be offered in Feb? I received a Dean's scholarship, albeit a very small one...I am pretty sure it is the smallest scholarship Michigan has. I am excited to be accepted and especially to have been offered something, but I was expecting more with my numbers :?

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Postby midwest17 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:56 pm

chneyo wrote:Complete! :)


Nice! When's the last time you checked?

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Postby lawschool22 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:57 pm

Michigan1442 wrote:I hope this doesn't come off as sounding ungrateful, but is there any chance that the Dean's scholarships could be increased at some point? Or maybe that additional aid be offered in Feb? I received a Dean's scholarship, albeit a very small one...I am pretty sure it is the smallest scholarship Michigan has. I am excited to be accepted and especially to have been offered something, but I was expecting more with my numbers :?


You can always negotiate with them assuming you getting higher offers elsewhere.

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Re: Michigan Applicants C/O 2017 (Applicants 2013-2014)

Postby angels2fly » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:11 pm

app received email dec 16th still no status checker, is this an abnormal amount of time even with the holidays?

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Postby MrMileyCyrus » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:32 pm

angels2fly wrote:app received email dec 16th still no status checker, is this an abnormal amount of time even with the holidays?


Nope. I received mine two and a half weeks after I submitted, and Thanksgiving was in that time period. I'd expect to get it after the New Year if I were you.

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Postby dempsey6 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:42 pm

Sent application in early May and just got in today.

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Postby emmybee » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:45 pm

dempsey6 wrote:Sent application in early May and just got in today.


Early May?

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Postby Leo » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:26 pm

Anyone having trouble getting on the ASW? Is it down?

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Postby kershka » Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:24 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
Michigan1442 wrote:I hope this doesn't come off as sounding ungrateful, but is there any chance that the Dean's scholarships could be increased at some point? Or maybe that additional aid be offered in Feb? I received a Dean's scholarship, albeit a very small one...I am pretty sure it is the smallest scholarship Michigan has. I am excited to be accepted and especially to have been offered something, but I was expecting more with my numbers :?


You can always negotiate with them assuming you getting higher offers elsewhere.

Yeah, actually, this is apparently false or at least is is for me. My official letter (I received a decent sized Dean's Scholarship) just arrived and specifically said that they would not compete with any other schools' aid packages and further that I no longer qualified for any need-based aid. Not sure if they're just posturing or if they've changed the policy this year.

I agree though, Michigan1442, I was surprised by my offer too considering I am significantly above both 75ths and I have ties to the school/state (though, of course, I was also delighted to be admitted and offered any type of aid). I'll probably try and see if I can raise that amount at all, but the tone of the letter was discouraging. Maybe I'm just a fluke though? :?

This discussion might be more apt in the Admitted Students thread, however, even if it is fairly dead right now.

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Postby t14splitter » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:07 pm

kershka wrote:
This discussion might be more apt in the Admitted Students thread, however, even if it is fairly dead right now.


Let's move the scholarship talk over there so it's all in one place.

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Postby midwest17 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:17 am

kershka wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
Michigan1442 wrote:I hope this doesn't come off as sounding ungrateful, but is there any chance that the Dean's scholarships could be increased at some point? Or maybe that additional aid be offered in Feb? I received a Dean's scholarship, albeit a very small one...I am pretty sure it is the smallest scholarship Michigan has. I am excited to be accepted and especially to have been offered something, but I was expecting more with my numbers :?


You can always negotiate with them assuming you getting higher offers elsewhere.

Yeah, actually, this is apparently false or at least is is for me. My official letter (I received a decent sized Dean's Scholarship) just arrived and specifically said that they would not compete with any other schools' aid packages and further that I no longer qualified for any need-based aid. Not sure if they're just posturing or if they've changed the policy this year.

I agree though, Michigan1442, I was surprised by my offer too considering I am significantly above both 75ths and I have ties to the school/state (though, of course, I was also delighted to be admitted and offered any type of aid). I'll probably try and see if I can raise that amount at all, but the tone of the letter was discouraging. Maybe I'm just a fluke though? :?

This discussion might be more apt in the Admitted Students thread, however, even if it is fairly dead right now.


Here's Dean Z's post on the issue: https://www.law.umich.edu/connection/a2 ... aspx?ID=17

Relavent part:

Which brings me to my story of yesterday. We got a call from an admitted student who had already received a merit scholarship from us. The caller wanted us to increase his award because he had received larger awards from other law schools. Now, it is our policy, stated in the scholarship award letters, not to alter scholarship awards once they have been made, but the receptionist quite correctly advised him to email the office with the information about the other awards. However unlikely it may be that we’ll alter our stated policy, she knows that we always want to be able to consider individual circumstances. He hung up in anger at that advice, though—and then emailed to complain that the receptionist had been most unhelpful for not having immediately forwarded the call to me. I reiterated the advice: please do send us the information requested. His behavior made me highly dubious, yet knowing how anxiety-producing the issues of money can be made me loath to assume the worst; maybe, I thought, he had some extraordinary circumstances. His response was fairly peremptory — a list of schools and awards, none of which were much in excess of what we had already given him.


So, you probably won't have luck negotiating upwards. But a polite attempt won't hurt.

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Re: Michigan Applicants C/O 2017 (Applicants 2013-2014)

Postby Lavitz » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:40 am

kershka wrote:Yeah, actually, this is apparently false or at least is is for me. My official letter (I received a decent sized Dean's Scholarship) just arrived and specifically said that they would not compete with any other schools' aid packages and further that I no longer qualified for any need-based aid. Not sure if they're just posturing or if they've changed the policy this year.

I agree though, Michigan1442, I was surprised by my offer too considering I am significantly above both 75ths and I have ties to the school/state (though, of course, I was also delighted to be admitted and offered any type of aid). I'll probably try and see if I can raise that amount at all, but the tone of the letter was discouraging. Maybe I'm just a fluke though? :?

This discussion might be more apt in the Admitted Students thread, however, even if it is fairly dead right now.

That's just posturing. They always say that for all the Dean's Scholarships, but last cycle they definitely increased their offers after negotiations.

Also, I think you're more likely to succeed in negotiating if you approach them with a higher offer from any T-14 as opposed to an equal or lesser amount from a higher-ranked school. Just something I noticed from an admittedly small sample size of anecdotes last cycle.

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Re: Michigan Applicants C/O 2017 (Applicants 2013-2014)

Postby t14splitter » Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:02 am

Lavitz wrote:
kershka wrote:Yeah, actually, this is apparently false or at least is is for me. My official letter (I received a decent sized Dean's Scholarship) just arrived and specifically said that they would not compete with any other schools' aid packages and further that I no longer qualified for any need-based aid. Not sure if they're just posturing or if they've changed the policy this year.

I agree though, Michigan1442, I was surprised by my offer too considering I am significantly above both 75ths and I have ties to the school/state (though, of course, I was also delighted to be admitted and offered any type of aid). I'll probably try and see if I can raise that amount at all, but the tone of the letter was discouraging. Maybe I'm just a fluke though? :?

This discussion might be more apt in the Admitted Students thread, however, even if it is fairly dead right now.

That's just posturing. They always say that for all the Dean's Scholarships, but last cycle they definitely increased their offers after negotiations.

Also, I think you're more likely to succeed in negotiating if you approach them with a higher offer from any T-14 as opposed to an equal or lesser amount from a higher-ranked school. Just something I noticed from an admittedly small sample size of anecdotes last cycle.


Good to know - thanks Lavitz

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Re: Michigan Applicants C/O 2017 (Applicants 2013-2014)

Postby kershka » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:58 pm

Thanks Lavitz and midwest17, that was very helpful!

I guess I'll see what my other aid packages look like before giving up hope.




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