Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby Nonconsecutive » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:41 pm

lawschool22 wrote:Nothing in this midwest-kid's mailbox today. Holding out for Thurs/Fri :D


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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby lastsamurai » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:42 pm

Nothing for me today in manhattan...feeling a little discouraged! Hoping for tomorrow

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:46 pm

My package was only sent out yesterday, and the weather's been awful! Also - as, LS22 and other stat-minded people have pointed out, CLS's wave is quite long, at least a work week or so. Besides, as drawstring helpfully pointed out, if I can get in, this year's a free for all in terms of schollies and acceptances!!!! No one lose hope!!!! :D

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby lawschool22 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:53 pm

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:My package was only sent out yesterday, and the weather's been awful! Also - as, LS22 and other stat-minded people have pointed out, CLS's wave is quite long, at least a work week or so. Besides, as drawstring helpfully pointed out, if I can get in, this year's a free for all in terms of schollies and acceptances!!!! No one lose hope!!!! :D


Lol I don't think that's how draw meant it.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby residentemma » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:59 pm

What are the requirements for receiving a Butler/Hamilton? Is it purely LSAT and GPA? Do people apply for it or do they just pick them when they admit people?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby FuriousDuck » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:01 pm

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:02 pm

FuriousDuck wrote:I'm pretty sure drawstring was just referring to the LSAT floor, not the overall quality of ShrimpToastMasters' application (which is probably excellent, given the Butler) or his/her value as a person.


Hmm - possibly :) still, not a very nice way to respond. however, onto the more serious matter of my score and schollies - i totes believe score floors being lowered due to smaller applicant pools is entirely possible. however, i think my 173 may be a bit skewed since it's my first/only score. does anyone know if CLS takes score averages/retakes into account?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby malleus discentium » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:04 pm

FuriousDuck wrote:
residentemma wrote:What are the requirements for receiving a Butler/Hamilton? Is it purely LSAT and GPA? Do people apply for it or do they just pick them when they admit people?


It's definitely more complicated than just LSAT/GPA, though in the past there appeared to have been pretty high "floors," e.g. 174+ LSAT, 3.9+ GPA for Hamilton, or something like that (don't quote me on the exact numbers). They just pick them when they admit people.

The floors for the Butler and Hamilton have historically been pretty firm at 174/176 respectively. If they're lowering those floors this cycle that is sterling news.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby midwest17 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:05 pm

mylifeis24 wrote:My mailman just didn't deliver the mail today... at all... to my whole block....the weather is normal...USPS is out to get me.


Please tell me that you went around to all your neighbors asking if they got their mail :)

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby lawschool22 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:05 pm

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:
FuriousDuck wrote:I'm pretty sure drawstring was just referring to the LSAT floor, not the overall quality of ShrimpToastMasters' application (which is probably excellent, given the Butler) or his/her value as a person.


Hmm - possibly :) still, not a very nice way to respond. however, onto the more serious matter of my score and schollies - i totes believe score floors being lowered due to smaller applicant pools is entirely possible. however, i think my 173 may be a bit skewed since it's my first/only score. does anyone know if CLS takes score averages/retakes into account?


Respectfully, I don't think you should take any offense to what draw said, I don't think it was unkind in the slightest. Draw just stated a fact, that a 173 got a butler where in the past 174 seemed to be the floor. We are all very very happy for you, as evidenced by the many congratulations :)

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:06 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
ShrimpToastMasters wrote:
FuriousDuck wrote:I'm pretty sure drawstring was just referring to the LSAT floor, not the overall quality of ShrimpToastMasters' application (which is probably excellent, given the Butler) or his/her value as a person.


Hmm - possibly :) still, not a very nice way to respond. however, onto the more serious matter of my score and schollies - i totes believe score floors being lowered due to smaller applicant pools is entirely possible. however, i think my 173 may be a bit skewed since it's my first/only score. does anyone know if CLS takes score averages/retakes into account?


Respectfully, I don't think you should take any offense to what draw said, I don't think it was unkind in the slightest. Draw just stated a fact, that a 173 got a butler where in the past 174 seemed to be the floor. We are all very very happy for you, as evidenced by the many congratulations :)


LS22 - you ignore my score point though and you're our master statistician :P does anyone know what the reported 174 was - was it a mark of LSAT highest scores, or averages?
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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby drawstring » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:08 pm

FuriousDuck wrote:I'm pretty sure drawstring was just referring to the LSAT floor, not the overall quality of ShrimpToastMasters' application (which is probably excellent, given the Butler) or his/her value as a person.


This is exactly what I meant and I thought it was relevant.

No offense intended STM, I'm sure you're an awesome applicant.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby ShrimpToastMasters » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:11 pm

drawstring wrote:
FuriousDuck wrote:I'm pretty sure drawstring was just referring to the LSAT floor, not the overall quality of ShrimpToastMasters' application (which is probably excellent, given the Butler) or his/her value as a person.


This is exactly what I meant.

No offense intended STM, I'm sure you're an awesome applicant.


and I forgive you drawstring - it's just not the most pleasant thing to hear when you get a scholly/acceptance. imagine being in my place and someone being all "oh good - YOU got in, so it must be super easy." but yeah - i would totally believe a floor lowering - i'm super ecstatic/amazed/bewildered that i got to benefit from it!!!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby lawschool22 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:13 pm

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:
drawstring wrote:
FuriousDuck wrote:I'm pretty sure drawstring was just referring to the LSAT floor, not the overall quality of ShrimpToastMasters' application (which is probably excellent, given the Butler) or his/her value as a person.


This is exactly what I meant.

No offense intended STM, I'm sure you're an awesome applicant.


and I forgive you drawstring - it's just not the most pleasant thing to hear when you get a scholly/acceptance. imagine being in my place and someone being all "oh good - YOU got in, so it must be super easy." but yeah - i would totally believe a floor lowering - i'm super ecstatic/amazed/bewildered that i got to benefit from it!!!


Come on Shrimp, I'm sure many people would love to be in your place, let alone imagine it :D

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby drawstring » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:14 pm

ShrimpToastMasters wrote:
drawstring wrote:
FuriousDuck wrote:I'm pretty sure drawstring was just referring to the LSAT floor, not the overall quality of ShrimpToastMasters' application (which is probably excellent, given the Butler) or his/her value as a person.


This is exactly what I meant.

No offense intended STM, I'm sure you're an awesome applicant.


and I forgive you drawstring - it's just not the most pleasant thing to hear when you get a scholly/acceptance. imagine being in my place and someone being all "oh good - YOU got in, so it must be super easy." but yeah - i would totally believe a floor lowering - i'm super ecstatic/amazed/bewildered that i got to benefit from it!!!


That's not at all what I said but I get your point!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby mylifeis24 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:19 pm

midwest17 wrote:
mylifeis24 wrote:My mailman just didn't deliver the mail today... at all... to my whole block....the weather is normal...USPS is out to get me.


Please tell me that you went around to all your neighbors asking if they got their mail :)


No....yes

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby canes14 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:08 am

saw all these posts, obsessed all day, and no mail.

blaming it on being allllll the way in FL

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby xmbeckham » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:02 am

In via email (I'm international) with Hamilton!
Complete on 1/4.
180/3.90

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby koalacity » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:05 am

xmbeckham wrote:In via email (I'm international) with Hamilton!
Complete on 1/4.
180/3.90

CONGRATS!!!!!! :D

eta: January complete date makes this even more exciting.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby ColShRo » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:06 am

Wow, congrats!!!

When did you get the email?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby xmbeckham » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:10 am

ColShRo wrote:Wow, congrats!!!

When did you get the email?

Thanks! Got the email at 2:09 pm EST on 1/28.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby jbagelboy » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:14 am

Just want to say, regardless of the quality of the application, the Butler being awarded to 173 is significant, and entirely new. Of course, 173 has always been a 99th%ile score - an incredible score - but CLS over the past 3+ years has reserved its named scholarships pretty exclusively for 174+, and often only 175+. These have always been CLS's 75th %ile LSAT. Viewed in this light, since the 75th dropped to 173 this year, loosening the threshold makes perfect sense.

Some of us 1L's may have benefited from waiting another cycle! But what's done is done. Congratulations!! It's a huge deal for you. I imagine many of the Butler/Hamilton candidates will head to HLS (or in some cases, YLS) as they do every year, and for some it will make sense, but it's definitely worth looking hard at your goals and the kind of debt you would be walking out with. This can't be stressed enough. For V10 firm work in NYC, for example, there is no better choice than the Hamilton/Butler (massive need based packages from cambridge or new haven as major exceptions). The people I know who chose CLS under these circumstances seem happy with their choice. But you'll all face this decision soon enough regardless.

Cheers!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby vivala » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:16 am

Not to be the Debbie Downer, but for those of us expecting waitlist/dings, should those be arriving now, too?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)

Postby xmbeckham » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:17 am

koalacity wrote:
xmbeckham wrote:In via email (I'm international) with Hamilton!
Complete on 1/4.
180/3.90

CONGRATS!!!!!! :D

eta: January complete date makes this even more exciting.

Thank you. Pretty sure more people will hear back in the next few days.




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