Harvard Waitlist 2013

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby untar614 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:16 pm

helix23 wrote:
untar614 wrote:for some more useful speculation, when signing up for the interview, i noticed there were 2 options for the second drop down menu - one said "HLS Interviewer" and the second one said "Interviewer, HLS". Does anyone know if one of these correspond to a particular interviewer?


sorry, this isn't useful :(

sure it is. if someone could figure out which is which, i'd know which interviewer to prepare for.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby TripTrip » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:23 pm

untar614 wrote:
helix23 wrote:
untar614 wrote:for some more useful speculation, when signing up for the interview, i noticed there were 2 options for the second drop down menu - one said "HLS Interviewer" and the second one said "Interviewer, HLS". Does anyone know if one of these correspond to a particular interviewer?


sorry, this isn't useful :(

sure it is. if someone could figure out which is which, i'd know which interviewer to prepare for.

That's what he meant. It's not like one is KB and one is JS. You aren't randomly picking your interviewer by selecting "HLS Interviewer" instead of "Interviewer, HLS."

Think for a second about how ridiculous that would be.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby eyfl » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:30 am

TripTrip wrote:
untar614 wrote:
helix23 wrote:
untar614 wrote:for some more useful speculation, when signing up for the interview, i noticed there were 2 options for the second drop down menu - one said "HLS Interviewer" and the second one said "Interviewer, HLS". Does anyone know if one of these correspond to a particular interviewer?


sorry, this isn't useful :(

sure it is. if someone could figure out which is which, i'd know which interviewer to prepare for.

That's what he meant. It's not like one is KB and one is JS. You aren't randomly picking your interviewer by selecting "HLS Interviewer" instead of "Interviewer, HLS."

Think for a second about how ridiculous that would be.


I *think* I had HLS Interviewer and it turned out to be Jessica.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby TripTrip » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:37 am

eyfl wrote:I *think* I had HLS Interviewer and it turned out to be Jessica.

Stahp.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby eyfl » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:54 am

TripTrip wrote:
eyfl wrote:I *think* I had HLS Interviewer and it turned out to be Jessica.

Stahp.


Come on, I'd rather speculate about this than nothing at all. You've already had your interview, haven't you? Was it HLS interviewer or Interviewer, HLS?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby MyNameIsFlynn! » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:00 am

eyfl wrote:
TripTrip wrote:
eyfl wrote:I *think* I had HLS Interviewer and it turned out to be Jessica.

Stahp.


Come on, I'd rather speculate about this than nothing at all. You've already had your interview, haven't you? Was it HLS interviewer or Interviewer, HLS?


HLS interviewer, KB

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby voytek » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:15 am

MyNameIsFlynn! wrote:
eyfl wrote:
TripTrip wrote:
eyfl wrote:I *think* I had HLS Interviewer and it turned out to be Jessica.

Stahp.


Come on, I'd rather speculate about this than nothing at all. You've already had your interview, haven't you? Was it HLS interviewer or Interviewer, HLS?


HLS interviewer, KB


Was the date you signed up an odd or even date? Maybe that will account for the difference.

Can we stop this please?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby TexasAggie13 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:36 am

Got a JS1 yesterday late afternoon! Geeze. I thought I was settled on UChicago but now Harvard is throwing off my plans.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby TripTrip » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:55 pm

TexasAggie13 wrote:Got a JS1 yesterday late afternoon! Geeze. I thought I was settled on UChicago but now Harvard is throwing off my plans.

Don't you have $150k at NU? Chicago beat that?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby feelingood » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:34 pm

Am I right to assume that getting an interview off of the wait list is a less positive sign than getting one before the wait list? I remember reading somewhere that ~70% of those interviewed get spots, but I assume this is from the original pool and exempting whatever happens post-wait list. Do we have any info on the chances of getting in after WL --> JS1?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:38 pm

feelingood wrote:I remember reading somewhere that ~70% of those interviewed get spots, but I assume this is from the original pool and exempting whatever happens post-wait list. Do we have any info on the chances of getting in after WL --> JS1?

The 70% refers to the entire cycle. 850 admits out of 1200 interviews.

Have no idea on the chances of WL-->JS1 vs. JS1-->WL, but I imagine since it seems like they're interviewing most of the WL, chances are much lower than 70% either way. So yes, getting now is probably less of a positive sign.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby shakespeare » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:43 pm

Honestly, at this point, i feel like they may just interview all of the WL. Maybe they do still need to reach that 1200 target.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:53 pm

shakespeare wrote:Honestly, at this point, i feel like they may just interview all of the WL. Maybe they do still need to reach that 1200 target.

Wouldn't be surprised. Don't think it would be about the target though. I feel like if they have the time, why not do it? If everyone on the WL is a contender, why not evaluate all of them?

Also, I think this means no JS1b for me. Everyone will be on equal footing with one interview each.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby cslouisck » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:05 pm

So as we're idly speculating, here's the final post on admission stats from last year's WL.

30 in the first wave, 13 in the second wave, 4 in the trickle-in period* (early July - [late August])

2 declined admission, one in each of the 2 waves

0 people claimed WL--> JS1 --> no JS2, likely because we told them its a foolish thing to say you aren't sure you want to attend during your WL --> JS1


In total, 71 people left their stats on the spreadsheet, but unlike this year's folks, the vast majority of them hadn't been interviewed prior to arriving on the list. Still, so long as folks are reporting at about the same rate, we're looking at 47/91 waitlisters with interviews after the first large rounds of invites compared to 40ish/71 last year.

Make of that what you will.

Edit: I can't type.
Last edited by cslouisck on Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:06 pm

shakespeare wrote:Honestly, at this point, i feel like they may just interview all of the WL. Maybe they do still need to reach that 1200 target.


I doubt they interview the entire WL and start choosing. I bet the waves of JS1s we are seeing right now are the biggest we will see this cycle. When the dust clears after deposit deadlines, then maybe WL->JS1s here and there throughout the summer. My prediction.

edit: semi scooped above

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby shakespeare » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:08 pm

helix, i like how you are so much more optimistic than i am. we could use some of that optimism here.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby arrggg » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:09 pm

Sent in a LOCI today. We'll see how this turns out.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:12 pm

What I am curious about is how they go about choosing which WL->JS1 applicant to admit.

Let's say a 3.8/176 decides to deposit elsewhere. Do they just grab the first WL app with similar numbers?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby TripTrip » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:13 pm

cslouisck wrote:
0 people claimed WL--> JS1 --> no JS2, likely because we told them its a foolish thing to say you aren't sure you want to attend during your WL --> JS1

That brings up another point to anyone with a future WL-->JS1 interview. There was definitely a YP element in my JS1 earlier this week. I wasn't really expecting to have to show that I would take Harvard over a (non-existent) Hamilton.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby kuddlykoala » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:15 pm

Lavitz wrote:
shakespeare wrote:Honestly, at this point, i feel like they may just interview all of the WL. Maybe they do still need to reach that 1200 target.

Wouldn't be surprised. Don't think it would be about the target though. I feel like if they have the time, why not do it? If everyone on the WL is a contender, why not evaluate all of them?

Also, I think this means no JS1b for me. Everyone will be on equal footing with one interview each.


no js1b? What does that mean? i was wondering about our chances being that we had a js1 prior to WL

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:17 pm

TripTrip wrote:
cslouisck wrote:
0 people claimed WL--> JS1 --> no JS2, likely because we told them its a foolish thing to say you aren't sure you want to attend during your WL --> JS1

That brings up another point to anyone with a future WL-->JS1 interview. There was definitely a YP element in my JS1 earlier this week. I wasn't really expecting to have to show that I would take Harvard over a (non-existent) Hamilton.


That might be a consequence of your numbers. I didn't feel like there was any YP in mine.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby FlowBro » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:22 pm

Is a day after receiving the wait list notification too soon to send an loci?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby eyfl » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:23 pm

helix23 wrote:
TripTrip wrote:
cslouisck wrote:
0 people claimed WL--> JS1 --> no JS2, likely because we told them its a foolish thing to say you aren't sure you want to attend during your WL --> JS1

That brings up another point to anyone with a future WL-->JS1 interview. There was definitely a YP element in my JS1 earlier this week. I wasn't really expecting to have to show that I would take Harvard over a (non-existent) Hamilton.


That might be a consequence of your numbers. I didn't feel like there was any YP in mine.


I second that. Mine was only about why law school & not MBA with my credentials / work experience (besides some other relatively general stuff) :?

P.S. I still was asked though where I'm planning to put a deposit for the time being

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby MyNameIsFlynn! » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:26 pm

helix23 wrote:
TripTrip wrote:
cslouisck wrote:
0 people claimed WL--> JS1 --> no JS2, likely because we told them its a foolish thing to say you aren't sure you want to attend during your WL --> JS1

That brings up another point to anyone with a future WL-->JS1 interview. There was definitely a YP element in my JS1 earlier this week. I wasn't really expecting to have to show that I would take Harvard over a (non-existent) Hamilton.


That might be a consequence of your numbers. I didn't feel like there was any YP in mine.


I don't have the kind of numbers that would get me much T6 $ but I definitely felt a vibe of YP in mine as well. Was expressly asked about my options (including working for a year instead of LS), which turned into a little discussion about timelines and willingness to ride out the WL.

When they admit people off the WL, I think they're looking for people who are absolutely gung-ho about H and would commit the same day. Which is probably many/most of us, but I think they want to know that for sure so they can maintain their yield numbers. At least that's the impression I got.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:29 pm

Shit well I must've been that convincing.




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