Harvard Waitlist 2013

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Longtimelurk
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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Longtimelurk » Wed May 29, 2013 11:48 pm

Why do such a small rejection wave, though?

That really doesn't make sense to me.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby PrentissJames » Thu May 30, 2013 12:00 am

Longtimelurk wrote:Why do such a small rejection wave, though?

That really doesn't make sense to me.


At this point, I love speculation (I'm also a huge Cleveland Cavaliers fan and the draft is coming up...so speculate away!)

First, I would suggest starting from the premise that both JS and KB are genuinely trying to make this process as streamlined and benevolent as possible. Thus, everything that happens comes not from an inability or indifference, but for some genuinely good reason. After going through all of our applications, they discovered for sure who they wanted (and they accepted them) who they were still unsure of (held) or who they knew wouldn't compare to the other applicants (rejected).

Therefore, I believe we have three options:
A: The small number of rejections were people they were 100% sure they wouldn't have spaces for and wanted them to know as soon as possible
B: The wave will continue over the next week or two as they turn from asking "who do we want" to "who wouldn't get in compared to everyone else"
C: The wave itself was bigger, because the representation on TLS is of a higher quality than the population writ large. In other words, there were far more rejections, but because only the most overly motivated (and anxious) people come on TLS, they represent the best of the best on the WL and thus the rejected population is underrepresented here.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Thu May 30, 2013 1:23 am

I also think that people are just less likely to report rejections. Especially the anon users - when they're rejected, the last thing on their mind is going to be uploading it to a spreadsheet for some strangers on the internet they don't even communicate with to see.

Acceptances, on the other hand, are probably reported more often, because by reporting it they are reinforcing the fact that it's real.

Then again, I'm probably just projecting. I'd report it either way, but if I were rejected I'd be forcing myself to do it, whereas if I were accepted I would do it happily (though it might take a few days :D )

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby jbagelboy » Thu May 30, 2013 3:52 am

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:I also think that people are just less likely to report rejections. Especially the anon users - when they're rejected, the last thing on their mind is going to be uploading it to a spreadsheet for some strangers on the internet they don't even communicate with to see.

Acceptances, on the other hand, are probably reported more often, because by reporting it they are reinforcing the fact that it's real.

Then again, I'm probably just projecting. I'd report it either way, but if I were rejected I'd be forcing myself to do it, whereas if I were accepted I would do it happily (though it might take a few days :D )


Yea.. This is why LSN always shows such a strong accept/reject ratio. Most rejected applicants never update from "pending". I made sure to include my Harvard decision on TLS just for posterity.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby PrentissJames » Thu May 30, 2013 9:03 am

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:I also think that people are just less likely to report rejections. Especially the anon users - when they're rejected, the last thing on their mind is going to be uploading it to a spreadsheet for some strangers on the internet they don't even communicate with to see.

Acceptances, on the other hand, are probably reported more often, because by reporting it they are reinforcing the fact that it's real.

Then again, I'm probably just projecting. I'd report it either way, but if I were rejected I'd be forcing myself to do it, whereas if I were accepted I would do it happily (though it might take a few days :D )


Spot on!

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Aussiebum » Thu May 30, 2013 9:47 am

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:I also think that people are just less likely to report rejections. Especially the anon users - when they're rejected, the last thing on their mind is going to be uploading it to a spreadsheet for some strangers on the internet they don't even communicate with to see.

Acceptances, on the other hand, are probably reported more often, because by reporting it they are reinforcing the fact that it's real.

Then again, I'm probably just projecting. I'd report it either way, but if I were rejected I'd be forcing myself to do it, whereas if I were accepted I would do it happily (though it might take a few days :D )


+1

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby eyfl » Thu May 30, 2013 1:01 pm

I bet there will be nothing but silence until next week at least, any takers?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Thu May 30, 2013 1:09 pm

eyfl wrote:I bet there will be nothing but silence until next week at least, any takers?


JS2s within the hour!

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Thu May 30, 2013 1:16 pm

helix23 wrote:
eyfl wrote:I bet there will be nothing but silence until next week at least, any takers?


JS1s within the hour!
ftfy

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby eyfl » Thu May 30, 2013 1:23 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:
helix23 wrote:
eyfl wrote:I bet there will be nothing but silence until next week at least, any takers?


JS1s within the hour!
ftfy


This actually sounds more plausible. They have rejected those they're unlikely to admit, they are unlikely to do more JS2s right now (after a huge 3-day wave) & probably don't have much to do - why not do more interviews and chat with lovely fellows, 15 minutes at a time?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby shakespeare » Thu May 30, 2013 1:26 pm

Perhaps after the June 14 deposit deadline, we'll see huge waves of rejections.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby untar614 » Thu May 30, 2013 2:34 pm

shakespeare wrote:Perhaps after the June 14 deposit deadline, we'll see huge waves of rejections.


Yeah, I would think after the deadline they will offer a few acceptances to fill any spots they didn't fill with the first wave, and then possibly cull the wait list some more to reflect the fewer spots still up in the air.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Aussiebum » Thu May 30, 2013 2:40 pm

untar614 wrote:
shakespeare wrote:Perhaps after the June 14 deposit deadline, we'll see huge waves of rejections.


Yeah, I would think after the deadline they will offer a few acceptances to fill any spots they didn't fill with the first wave, and then possibly cull the wait list some more to reflect the fewer spots still up in the air.


I am so proud to be Harvard's Plan C.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby PrentissJames » Thu May 30, 2013 7:13 pm

Aussiebum wrote:I am so proud to be Harvard's Plan C.


I'd just be happy to be Harvard's Plan G if that meant I'd go there. Once we are in the door, we are in the door.

Speaking of interviews...I'd kill for another Skype interview. Heck, I'd drive up to Boston to do an in-person interview!

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby untar614 » Thu May 30, 2013 7:33 pm

PrentissJames wrote:
Aussiebum wrote:I am so proud to be Harvard's Plan C.


I'd just be happy to be Harvard's Plan G if that meant I'd go there. Once we are in the door, we are in the door.

Speaking of interviews...I'd kill for another Skype interview. Heck, I'd drive up to Boston to do an in-person interview!


Seriously. I'm still rethinking it in my mind how I didn't get an opportunity to talk about anything outside of stuff on my resume and how I feel it made me come off. meh.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby tidymnstr » Thu May 30, 2013 10:16 pm

PrentissJames wrote:
Aussiebum wrote:I am so proud to be Harvard's Plan C.


I'd just be happy to be Harvard's Plan G if that meant I'd go there. Once we are in the door, we are in the door.

Speaking of interviews...I'd kill for another Skype interview. Heck, I'd drive up to Boston to do an in-person interview!


I think if you killed, hmmm... MOTM perhaps? (he did reject HLS after all), you may get another! :lol:

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby PrentissJames » Thu May 30, 2013 11:30 pm

Well, they do have really good recruitment commercials...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnNk2Al2yF8

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby vamopalla » Thu May 30, 2013 11:54 pm

PrentissJames wrote:Well, they do have really good recruitment commercials...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnNk2Al2yF8


Someone sent me this after I got rejected from H during high school http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1n7I47cBQ

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby lawschooler2be » Fri May 31, 2013 12:04 am

Am I right in assuming everything is over by this point, given the fb group has reached 550+ and all the people admitted off the wl will almost certainly be matriculating given the js1bs? In other words, time to start binge drinking/eating away the sorrow.

Edit: also, were there more js1 invites in may (there are a couple listed on the spreadsheet, but did those people list the invite date or the actual js1 interview date by mistake?)

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Fri May 31, 2013 12:49 am

lawschooler2be wrote:Am I right in assuming everything is over by this point, given the fb group has reached 550+ and all the people admitted off the wl will almost certainly be matriculating given the js1bs? In other words, time to start binge drinking/eating away the sorrow.

Edit: also, were there more js1 invites in may (there are a couple listed on the spreadsheet, but did those people list the invite date or the actual js1 interview date by mistake?)


it doesn't look too good bro.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Aussiebum » Fri May 31, 2013 9:37 am

lawschooler2be wrote:Am I right in assuming everything is over by this point, given the fb group has reached 550+ and all the people admitted off the wl will almost certainly be matriculating given the js1bs? In other words, time to start binge drinking/eating away the sorrow.

Edit: also, were there more js1 invites in may (there are a couple listed on the spreadsheet, but did those people list the invite date or the actual js1 interview date by mistake?)


Don't turn into Amanda Bynes. Not even HLS is worth that.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby PrentissJames » Fri May 31, 2013 10:16 am

lawschooler2be wrote:Am I right in assuming everything is over by this point, given the fb group has reached 550+ and all the people admitted off the wl will almost certainly be matriculating given the js1bs? In other words, time to start binge drinking/eating away the sorrow.

Edit: also, were there more js1 invites in may (there are a couple listed on the spreadsheet, but did those people list the invite date or the actual js1 interview date by mistake?)


It ain't over till it's over!

It's been almost 8 months. I'm not giving up now and neither should you.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby sunshine89 » Fri May 31, 2013 11:58 am

lawschooler2be wrote:Am I right in assuming everything is over by this point, given the fb group has reached 550+ and all the people admitted off the wl will almost certainly be matriculating given the js1bs? In other words, time to start binge drinking/eating away the sorrow.

Edit: also, were there more js1 invites in may (there are a couple listed on the spreadsheet, but did those people list the invite date or the actual js1 interview date by mistake?)


Been lurking for quite a while, but yes, I got a JS1 invite on 5/3, interview 5/14, haven't heard anything since.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby PrentissJames » Fri May 31, 2013 12:57 pm

Let's do some speculation.

1) Obviously, there will be more people admitted from this point on or else there would have been a lot more rejections sent out. If they only expected 2-4 people to turn down admissions/defer, then they would whittle down the waitlist even more. Because there hasn't been as massive of a rejections yet, there might be more spots available for us.

2) They've already gone through the waitlist and rejected the people that wouldn't fit. They must find something redeeming and attractive in our applications to want to keep us around. When spots open up, they are ours!

3) Wishful Thinking - From this point on, Softs will matter even more than the hard numbers. They admitted a lot of high-scoring people off of the waitlist already. I'm speculating that from now on, softs will matter much more (Military, Intern, Work, URM, being from Cleveland, etc)

Now it's just us...
We few, we happy few, we Band of Brothers... (Name that reference!)

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Fri May 31, 2013 1:14 pm

PrentissJames wrote:Let's do some speculation.

1) Obviously, there will be more people admitted from this point on or else there would have been a lot more rejections sent out. If they only expected 2-4 people to turn down admissions/defer, then they would whittle down the waitlist even more. Because there hasn't been as massive of a rejections yet, there might be more spots available for us.

2) They've already gone through the waitlist and rejected the people that wouldn't fit. They must find something redeeming and attractive in our applications to want to keep us around. When spots open up, they are ours!

3) Wishful Thinking - From this point on, Softs will matter even more than the hard numbers. They admitted a lot of high-scoring people off of the waitlist already. I'm speculating that from now on, softs will matter much more (Military, Intern, Work, URM, being from Cleveland, etc)

Now it's just us...
We few, we happy few, we Band of Brothers... (Name that reference!)


I hate to say it but this story ends up like your avatar: dead in a pool waiting for dat phone call :(




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