Harvard Waitlist 2013

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cslouisck
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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby cslouisck » Wed May 22, 2013 3:43 pm

TripTrip wrote:
toothbrush wrote:I still don't think this is it for the movement off the list of those who have been js1'd already.

We still haven't seen enough JS1bs to account for the JS2 wave required. This will probably be drawn out over the course of the week.


1. Congrats to the new JS2s!

2. Speculation: JS1bs aren't so much yield "protect" as they are means to determine the impact of high-stats WLers their overall WL admissions decisions before they send them out. That is, if you want to admit some below median folks in a reasonable timeframe, you need to figure out the likelihood of high-stats folks' matriculating to determine the net effect. It's essentially an expected value issue where the likelihood of high-stats ppl accepting an offer < lower-stats ppl accepting, and the JS1b clarifies the probability of the former.

Or it could be something totally different since it doesn't seem like that happened last year.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby tidymnstr » Wed May 22, 2013 3:43 pm

toothbrush wrote:Congrats to all :D

+1

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby toothbrush » Wed May 22, 2013 3:44 pm

Looking at the google doc most of the js1b's (and inevitable js2's) were from 4/5 js1' invites.

Maybe they're going in some sort of order by date .. ?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby eph » Wed May 22, 2013 3:44 pm

Congrats to all the new JS'2s!

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby bosmer88 » Wed May 22, 2013 3:46 pm

Congrats to all those who got a JS2!!!! :D

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby dawyzest1 » Wed May 22, 2013 3:48 pm

bosmer88 wrote:Congrats to all those who got a JS2!!!! :D


This. I hope it was worth the wait! :D

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Aussiebum » Wed May 22, 2013 3:50 pm

cslouisck wrote:
TripTrip wrote:
toothbrush wrote:I still don't think this is it for the movement off the list of those who have been js1'd already.

We still haven't seen enough JS1bs to account for the JS2 wave required. This will probably be drawn out over the course of the week.


1. Congrats to the new JS2s!

2. Speculation: JS1bs aren't so much yield "protect" as they are means to determine the impact of high-stats WLers their overall WL admissions decisions before they send them out. That is, if you want to admit some below median folks in a reasonable timeframe, you need to figure out the likelihood of high-stats folks' matriculating to determine the net effect. It's essentially an expected value issue where the likelihood of high-stats ppl accepting an offer < lower-stats ppl accepting, and the JS1b clarifies the probability of the former.

Or it could be something totally different since it doesn't seem like that happened last year.


I think this makes a lot of sense. All the JS2s so far have had similar "galactic numbers" (I love that term now). They also came from the JS1B mini wave that happened yesterday. It seems that they are making their decisions in smaller batches starting with the highest numbers and working their way down. That process allows them to gauge their yield better than one big wave.

I guess only time will tell...

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby toothbrush » Wed May 22, 2013 3:51 pm

Aussiebum wrote:
cslouisck wrote:
TripTrip wrote:
toothbrush wrote:I still don't think this is it for the movement off the list of those who have been js1'd already.

We still haven't seen enough JS1bs to account for the JS2 wave required. This will probably be drawn out over the course of the week.


1. Congrats to the new JS2s!

2. Speculation: JS1bs aren't so much yield "protect" as they are means to determine the impact of high-stats WLers their overall WL admissions decisions before they send them out. That is, if you want to admit some below median folks in a reasonable timeframe, you need to figure out the likelihood of high-stats folks' matriculating to determine the net effect. It's essentially an expected value issue where the likelihood of high-stats ppl accepting an offer < lower-stats ppl accepting, and the JS1b clarifies the probability of the former.

Or it could be something totally different since it doesn't seem like that happened last year.


I think this makes a lot of sense. All the JS2s so far have had similar "galactic numbers" (I love that term now). They also came from the JS1B mini wave that happened yesterday. It seems that they are making their decisions in smaller batches starting with the highest numbers and working their way down. That process allows them to gauge their yield better than one big wave.

I guess only time will tell...

Except for the "soft" based 169 / 4.12

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby RSterling » Wed May 22, 2013 3:52 pm

Wow, congrats everyone! I hadn't checked this thread today, and as soon as I saw the page count blow up, I figured there must have been some JS2s handed out.

I'm going to continue being insanely jealous and hoping for a measly Js1. :|

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby TrustInMusic » Wed May 22, 2013 3:53 pm

A big congratulations to the new JS2s! Welcome! Thanks for allowing me to relive that awesome vibe after each successive JS2 - especially the moment when it finally was my turn. Congrats

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Wed May 22, 2013 3:53 pm

Congrats, all!

Still,
RSterling wrote:I'm going to continue being insanely jealous and hoping for a measly Js1. :|

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Aussiebum » Wed May 22, 2013 3:58 pm

toothbrush wrote:Except for the "soft" based 169 / 4.12


4.12 is still pretty galactic. Especially if it is combined with strong softs.

I am probably just finding reasons to stay hopeful... it is getting harder by the minute!

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby TripTrip » Wed May 22, 2013 4:01 pm

cslouisck wrote:2. Speculation: JS1bs aren't so much yield "protect" as they are means to determine the impact of high-stats WLers their overall WL admissions decisions before they send them out. That is, if you want to admit some below median folks in a reasonable timeframe, you need to figure out the likelihood of high-stats folks' matriculating to determine the net effect. It's essentially an expected value issue where the likelihood of high-stats ppl accepting an offer < lower-stats ppl accepting, and the JS1b clarifies the probability of the former.

That only explains why they are expanding the JS2s out over a couple of days. The only possible reason to call someone the day before you admit them to ask if they would attend if admitted is yield protection. JS1bs are definitely a function of YP.

Aussiebum wrote:4.12 is still pretty galactic. Especially if it is combined with strong softs.
:?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby anon903817 » Wed May 22, 2013 4:01 pm

Everyone always says JS calls people late in the day, into the evening, and yet these calls were all done in the early afternoon (and presumably not that many if it's only JS1b people from yesterday). Does this mean there might be some more JS1b's today? Because if she calls later into the evening normally, and started at like 2 PM today, then maybe it's because she's sending out more than a handful of calls.

In other words as a non-JS1b person I have nothing to do but sit here and speculate...

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby jsjd1989 » Wed May 22, 2013 4:01 pm

I'm interested in the 4/5 JS1 theory. Thoughts on this?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby toothbrush » Wed May 22, 2013 4:04 pm

anon903817 wrote:In other words as a non-JS1b person I have nothing to do but sit here and speculate...

This is more taxing on my psyche than just having to wait. Watching you all get excited and accepted.. sniff.. it makes me feel the gamut of emotions .

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby nextstep222 » Wed May 22, 2013 4:05 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:Congrats, all!

Still,
RSterling wrote:I'm going to continue being insanely jealous and hoping for a measly Js1. :|


not that i have any basis for this, but any movement is good movement if you're waiting on a js1 still. which is to say, they need to clear out some of the high numbers to move to the next batch of interviews.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Wed May 22, 2013 4:05 pm

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby TripTrip » Wed May 22, 2013 4:06 pm

anon903817 wrote:Everyone always says JS calls people late in the day, into the evening, and yet these calls were all done in the early afternoon (and presumably not that many if it's only JS1b people from yesterday). Does this mean there might be some more JS1b's today? Because if she calls later into the evening normally, and started at like 2 PM today, then maybe it's because she's sending out more than a handful of calls.

We're calling these things "JS2s" and "JS1bs" even when KB is making the call.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Aussiebum » Wed May 22, 2013 4:06 pm

TripTrip wrote:
cslouisck wrote:2. Speculation: JS1bs aren't so much yield "protect" as they are means to determine the impact of high-stats WLers their overall WL admissions decisions before they send them out. That is, if you want to admit some below median folks in a reasonable timeframe, you need to figure out the likelihood of high-stats folks' matriculating to determine the net effect. It's essentially an expected value issue where the likelihood of high-stats ppl accepting an offer < lower-stats ppl accepting, and the JS1b clarifies the probability of the former.

That only explains why they are expanding the JS2s out over a couple of days. The only possible reason to call someone the day before you admit them to ask if they would attend if admitted is yield protection. JS1bs are definitely a function of YP.

Aussiebum wrote:4.12 is still pretty galactic. Especially if it is combined with strong softs.
:?


When she calls you tomorrow for your JS2 do the rest of us (and future TLS generations) a favor and make sure you ask her what's up with JS1Bs this cycle. :lol:

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby bosmer88 » Wed May 22, 2013 4:17 pm

dawyzest1 wrote:
bosmer88 wrote:Congrats to all those who got a JS2!!!! :D


This. I hope it was worth the wait! :D


Yeah, I felt like I was going through the wait along with them again. I know it isn't exactly the same. :wink:

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby shakespeare » Wed May 22, 2013 4:21 pm

TripTrip, when were you invited to interview? Date/first wave or second wave?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby toothbrush » Wed May 22, 2013 4:24 pm

shakespeare wrote:TripTrip, when were you invited to interview? Date/first wave or second wave?

first wave 4/5

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby TripTrip » Wed May 22, 2013 4:27 pm

toothbrush wrote:
shakespeare wrote:TripTrip, when were you invited to interview? Date/first wave or second wave?

first wave 4/5

I'm glad you knew that, because I didn't remember.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby TripTrip » Wed May 22, 2013 4:29 pm

Hey, how many JS1bs from yesterday have yet to get the JS2 call? PM me if you don't want to out yourself.




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