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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Longtimelurk » Mon May 20, 2013 3:14 pm

toothbrush wrote:
Lavitz wrote:
toothbrush wrote:If they give out no more JS1's from the WL it is plausible that they will accept ~90% of the WL js1's thus far, right ?!

Huh?


Ok. Originally we speculated that they were going to interview a lot more of the WL. So far they haven't. That isn't to say there won't be another wave of JS1's off the WL.

If we were to guess they won't do another round of jS1's then it's possible most of the people interviewed thus far will be js2'd


What are you talking about? Look at the spreadsheet--almost everyone on the waitlist has had a JS1.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Mon May 20, 2013 3:15 pm

eyfl wrote:So it's gonna be TODAYTODAYTODAY?!?

No, because that was JR and this is JS. Besides that difference, there's the long stretch of skype interviews changing the timeline. And since evidence from this cycle shows that they use at least one day to finalize decisions after interviews, I don't think it's today. I do think there's a good chance it will be this week, though.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby toothbrush » Mon May 20, 2013 3:16 pm

Longtimelurk wrote:
toothbrush wrote:
Lavitz wrote:
toothbrush wrote:If they give out no more JS1's from the WL it is plausible that they will accept ~90% of the WL js1's thus far, right ?!

Huh?


Ok. Originally we speculated that they were going to interview a lot more of the WL. So far they haven't. That isn't to say there won't be another wave of JS1's off the WL.

If we were to guess they won't do another round of jS1's then it's possible most of the people interviewed thus far will be js2'd


What are you talking about? Look at the spreadsheet--almost everyone on the waitlist has had a JS1.

Since when was 45/109 "almost everyone"?

There are no figures for pre js1 Wl's iirc so I'm speaking to the post wl js1's

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Mon May 20, 2013 3:19 pm

Longtimelurk wrote:
toothbrush wrote:If we were to guess they won't do another round of jS1's then it's possible most of the people interviewed thus far will be js2'd


What are you talking about? Look at the spreadsheet--almost everyone on the waitlist has had a JS1.

Yeah, I mean we already discussed this a few pages back. About 66% of the spreadsheet has had a JS1. A conservative estimate would be that 50% of the entire WL got a JS1.

We estimated at least 800 people on the WL, so 400 have had a JS1 and they admit maybe 200 people off the WL.

That's 50% at best.

Unless you're hoping that no pre-WL JS1s get in. But from the 10-11 cycle thread, I'm seeing quite a few people get in after a JR2b.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby anon903817 » Mon May 20, 2013 3:20 pm

Okay, so I get JS2 is getting a call from Jessica Soban telling you you've gotten in...what's JR2? Is it the same thing but a different person telling you?

Also why not just say "got in" or "got accepted" vs JS2, and "got an interview" instead of JS1?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Mon May 20, 2013 3:21 pm

toothbrush wrote:There are no figures for pre js1 Wl's iirc so I'm speaking to the post wl js1's

:?:

There's a column that says "pre-WL JS1"

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby toothbrush » Mon May 20, 2013 3:22 pm

anon903817 wrote:Okay, so I get JS2 is getting a call from Jessica Soban telling you you've gotten in...what's JR2? Is it the same thing but a different person telling you?

Also why not just say "got in" or "got accepted" vs JS2, and "got an interview" instead of JS1?

It used to be a different dean in 10-11. JS is from the past two cycles. So it was JR. Not sure what his name is.

And it's because TLS and the internet abbreviates as much as possible.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby toothbrush » Mon May 20, 2013 3:22 pm

Lavitz wrote:
toothbrush wrote:There are no figures for pre js1 Wl's iirc so I'm speaking to the post wl js1's

:?:

There's a column that says "pre-WL JS1"

I didn't realize i'm being so vague today, sorry.

I mean afaik we didn't have much data on acceptance rate of pre-WL JS1's - correct me if i'm wrong.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Mon May 20, 2013 3:23 pm

anon903817 wrote:Okay, so I get JS2 is getting a call from Jessica Soban telling you you've gotten in...what's JR2? Is it the same thing but a different person telling you?

Also why not just say "got in" or "got accepted" vs JS2, and "got an interview" instead of JS1?

Because two years ago Josh Rubenstein was the Dean of Admissions.

Because shorthand is easier.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Mon May 20, 2013 3:27 pm

toothbrush wrote:I didn't realize i'm being so vague today, sorry.

I mean afaik we didn't have much data on acceptance rate of pre-WL JS1's - correct me if i'm wrong.

We don't. But considering how different this cycle is, even data on previous acceptance rates of post-WL JS1s wouldn't hold much predictive power.

We do know that at least some pre-WL JS1s got in during previous cycles, so you have to expect some movement there. Even if a higher percentage of post-WL's got in than pre-WL's, I don't think the rate would approach 90%.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Mon May 20, 2013 3:33 pm

Lavitz wrote:
anon903817 wrote:Okay, so I get JS2 is getting a call from Jessica Soban telling you you've gotten in...what's JR2? Is it the same thing but a different person telling you?

Also why not just say "got in" or "got accepted" vs JS2, and "got an interview" instead of JS1?

Because two years ago Josh Rubenstein was the Dean of Admissions.

Because shorthand is easier.


this is gonna sound sorta messed up but I'm glad you got WLed just so that you could be a poster in this thread.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby anon903817 » Mon May 20, 2013 3:33 pm

Ok thanks...also I'm not really anti-abbrevation, just that doing "person's initials" + "1/2" is a confusing way to do it...someone should make a glossary of all this stuff.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Louey12 » Mon May 20, 2013 3:38 pm

As everyone else here, I've seriously begun to freak out a bit. I applied late (March 3), received a wait list offer on April 15th and responded on April 19th. I have not been invited for a JS1. Should I basically kiss my chances of getting accepted goodbye? Are serious wait list candidates usually called by now? Anyone know the dates of JS1 invites since April 19? I'd appreciate responses. Thanks!

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby toothbrush » Mon May 20, 2013 3:39 pm

anon903817 wrote:Ok thanks...also I'm not really anti-abbrevation, just that doing "person's initials" + "1/2" is a confusing way to do it...someone should make a glossary of all this stuff.

Here you go

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18478

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Mon May 20, 2013 3:42 pm

Louey12 wrote:As everyone else here, I've seriously begun to freak out a bit. I applied late (March 3), received a wait list offer on April 15th and responded on April 19th. I have not been invited for a JS1. Should I basically kiss my chances of getting accepted goodbye? Are serious wait list candidates usually called by now? Anyone know the dates of JS1 invites since April 19? I'd appreciate responses. Thanks!


JS1 invites are sent via e-mail.

Check the original post on page 1 and look at the spreadsheet. Last JS1 wave was April 25.

I believe the consensus is that your chances of getting a JS1 are low but not zero.

I hope you appreciated that response.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Mon May 20, 2013 3:43 pm

helix23 wrote:this is gonna sound sorta messed up but I'm glad you got WLed just so that you could be a poster in this thread.

I think that's Harvard's plan. 8)

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby toothbrush » Mon May 20, 2013 3:44 pm

I just washed my head phones. They now sound all garbled. Would the correct course of action be to put them in the dryer now?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby trojandave » Mon May 20, 2013 3:47 pm

toothbrush wrote:I just washed my head phones. They now sound all garbled. Would the correct course of action be to put them in the dryer now?


Rookie mistake, those things are dry clean only

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Mon May 20, 2013 3:48 pm

anon903817 wrote:Ok thanks...also I'm not really anti-abbrevation, just that doing "person's initials" + "1/2" is a confusing way to do it...someone should make a glossary of all this stuff.

There's one in the previous thread.
Lavitz wrote:Acronyms

JS1= Skype Interview with either Admissions Dean Jessica Soban or Admissions Director Karen Buttenbaum. It is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for being admitted.
JS2= Phone call or e-mail from Jessica, notifying you of admission to Harvard Law.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby untar614 » Mon May 20, 2013 3:55 pm

Lavitz wrote:
anon903817 wrote:Ok thanks...also I'm not really anti-abbrevation, just that doing "person's initials" + "1/2" is a confusing way to do it...someone should make a glossary of all this stuff.

There's one in the previous thread.
Lavitz wrote:Acronyms

JS1= Skype Interview with either Admissions Dean Jessica Soban or Admissions Director Karen Buttenbaum. It is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for being admitted.
JS2= Phone call or e-mail from Jessica, notifying you of admission to Harvard Law.

Wait, JS2 refers to the acceptance notification?

Wow, this whole time I thought that a second interview was standard. Crap, I'd really like a second go at interviewing.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Mon May 20, 2013 3:55 pm

toothbrush wrote:What time do js/r2's go out ?

JR and KB were early birds, but JS is a night owl.

(JS tends to call in the afternoon / evening.)
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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Lavitz » Mon May 20, 2013 3:57 pm

untar614 wrote:Wow, this whole time I thought that a second interview was standard. Crap, I'd really like a second go at interviewing.

Those would be the elusive JS1bs, reserved for those people who were waitlisted after already having an interview. It appears they're not doing that this year.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby Louey12 » Mon May 20, 2013 3:59 pm

Sorry - new to this and don't know how to respond to your post directly, Helix23. Thank you so much for your response!! Initially I thought I had a strong shot since I applied after the deadline and they still WLed me. I did check the spreadsheet earlier but wondered if there were any new rounds of interviews. Do you think because I responded Apr 19 and the rounds were made the 25th could be a reason I had no JS1, or do strong candidates get invited right away for an interview?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby helix23 » Mon May 20, 2013 4:07 pm

Louey12 wrote:Sorry - new to this and don't know how to respond to your post directly, Helix23. Thank you so much for your response!! Initially I thought I had a strong shot since I applied after the deadline and they still WLed me. I did check the spreadsheet earlier but wondered if there were any new rounds of interviews. Do you think because I responded Apr 19 and the rounds were made the 25th could be a reason I had no JS1, or do strong candidates get invited right away for an interview?


Hit the "quote" button under the post you want to refer to.

Well, I would consider it a fairly good sign that you applied so late and still got a WL offer.

If there have been any new JS1 offers, none of those have been reported on TLS, but that's unlikely.

Your late response to the deadline could be a factor. Maybe if you responded immediately you would have gotten the April 25 offer, I have no idea. Either way it is irrelevant.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2013

Postby untar614 » Mon May 20, 2013 4:09 pm

Lavitz wrote:
untar614 wrote:Wow, this whole time I thought that a second interview was standard. Crap, I'd really like a second go at interviewing.

Those would be the elusive JS1bs, reserved for those people who were waitlisted after already having an interview. It appears they're not doing that this year.


Ah, that's too bad. Not that I thought my interview went badly, but as it was directed around my resume, I felt like I was just going "blahblahblah science, blahblahblah research" when I definitely have other stuff going on, but felt I can off as very 1-dimensional and didn't really have any opportunity to talk about anything else (she didn't even give me one of those "anything else you wnt to add?" type questions at the end). ah well, just gotta wait this out now :/




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