Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby 1984 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:24 pm

nmlf16 wrote:Still UR but my date changed to 1/29.

+1

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby rshw89 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:21 pm

nmlf16 wrote:Still UR but my date changed to 1/29.


Same here.

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby nba101790 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:23 pm

No change here. When did you guys submit/complete?

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby rshw89 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:19 pm

nba101790 wrote:No change here. When did you guys submit/complete?


Submitted on 1/6. I believe I was complete on 1/8.

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby nmlf16 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:06 pm

nba101790 wrote:No change here. When did you guys submit/complete?


Submitted 1/11 and complete/UR 1/14 I believe?

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby nba101790 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:52 pm

Received an email just now. Honors program does have a hard 165 cutoff. However, I was informed that my credentials put me in strong contention for a scholarship and to expect a general admission decision (one presumably with money included) in late February.

While it was a nice, and leading, email, now I have to wait three weeks to see if I've been admitted after that!

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby hi21 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:35 am

Giddy-Up wrote:
romanticegotist wrote:
Giddy-Up wrote:Class of 2011 Kent Grad - Happy to answer questions.


HAVE YOU JOB.


I mean, that's the elephant in the room here.

Yes - one that requires a law degree, take home is about 90k


Does Kent place well in Chicago? I mean, I know that it's competitive what with NW and UChicago there, but are job prospects decent for Kent graduates?

What is Kent like (professors, classes, classrooms, students)? Is it as cut throat as other schools?

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby Giddy-Up » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:08 am

hi21 wrote:
Giddy-Up wrote:
romanticegotist wrote:
Giddy-Up wrote:Class of 2011 Kent Grad - Happy to answer questions.


HAVE YOU JOB.


I mean, that's the elephant in the room here.

Yes - one that requires a law degree, take home is about 90k


Does Kent place well in Chicago? I mean, I know that it's competitive what with NW and UChicago there, but are job prospects decent for Kent graduates?

What is Kent like (professors, classes, classrooms, students)? Is it as cut throat as other schools?


My info is coming from someone who graduated in 2011, when things were at or near their worst in the legal market. Kent has some name recognition in Chicago, but it is still extremely tough. In particular, some of the Patent Boutiques seem to look for Kent grads and generally those in top 5% to 10% have successful outcomes. Below that, which is a huge number, it is still a huge crapshoot. Some may remember the unemployed EIC of the law review. He is now at Kirkland, but he is very much the minority. Even though he was EIC he was still in the top third or so. Grades seem to matter a lot. Those outside the top 10% are generally in smaller firms, doing some local prosecution or defense etc. In my year a few got picked up for JAG (2-3 Army, 2 AF, 1 Navy) if I remember correctly.

I think there is somewhat of a myth that students are cutthroat. I think everyone wants to do their best and will oiley work much harder (particularly in 1L year) than they may have in undergrad. However, I never saw or heard of anyone engaging in anything underhanded. Moreover, I found that upperclassmen who CALI'd a course were often happy to share their outlines.

The building is relatively new and quite pretty. It definitely does not have a college feel at all though. It is one building in the middle of the city. Only the law school and business school are in the building. You have to travel a little bit to get to some of the more pleasant areas of the city to hang out in. The school is very much in the business district.

Professors, for the overwhelming most part, are great. Very accessible, I never had any issues or heard of professors turning in grades late or reusing tests.

Bottom line, Kent is a great school. But, and it is a huge but, it is incredibly expensive. I think tuition is somewhere near 40k a year. While Chicago is not as expensive as NY it is still pricey. I would think long and hard about attending without a scholarship. Also, a significant number of students did lose their scholarships in my year. When I attended, the typical scholarship stip required a 3.25, with Kent's first year curve I think that worked out to approx top 25%. They may have changed things though.

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby bluegreen » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:39 am

bluegreen wrote: What is Kent like (professors, classes, classrooms, students)? Is it as cut throat as other schools?


bluegreen wrote: My info is coming from someone who graduated in 2011, when things were at or near their worst in the legal market. Kent has some name recognition in Chicago, but it is still extremely tough. In particular, some of the Patent Boutiques seem to look for Kent grads and generally those in top 5% to 10% have successful outcomes. Below that, which is a huge number, it is still a huge crapshoot. Some may remember the unemployed EIC of the law review. He is now at Kirkland, but he is very much the minority. Even though he was EIC he was still in the top third or so. Grades seem to matter a lot. Those outside the top 10% are generally in smaller firms, doing some local prosecution or defense etc. In my year a few got picked up for JAG (2-3 Army, 2 AF, 1 Navy) if I remember correctly.

I think there is somewhat of a myth that students are cutthroat. I think everyone wants to do their best and will oiley work much harder (particularly in 1L year) than they may have in undergrad. However, I never saw or heard of anyone engaging in anything underhanded. Moreover, I found that upperclassmen who CALI'd a course were often happy to share their outlines.

The building is relatively new and quite pretty. It definitely does not have a college feel at all though. It is one building in the middle of the city. Only the law school and business school are in the building. You have to travel a little bit to get to some of the more pleasant areas of the city to hang out in. The school is very much in the business district.

Professors, for the overwhelming most part, are great. Very accessible, I never had any issues or heard of professors turning in grades late or reusing tests.

Bottom line, Kent is a great school. But, and it is a huge but, it is incredibly expensive. I think tuition is somewhere near 40k a year. While Chicago is not as expensive as NY it is still pricey. I would think long and hard about attending without a scholarship. Also, a significant number of students did lose their scholarships in my year. When I attended, the typical scholarship stip required a 3.25, with Kent's first year curve I think that worked out to approx top 25%. They may have changed things though.



thank you, this was helpful

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby illiniguy1551 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:40 pm

Does Kent negotiate? $5000k more a year in scholly and I would enroll immediately!

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby cnk » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:50 pm

Do u have competing offers from similar or higher ranked schools? U can try to

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby hi21 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:52 pm

bluegreen wrote:
bluegreen wrote: What is Kent like (professors, classes, classrooms, students)? Is it as cut throat as other schools?


bluegreen wrote: My info is coming from someone who graduated in 2011, when things were at or near their worst in the legal market. Kent has some name recognition in Chicago, but it is still extremely tough. In particular, some of the Patent Boutiques seem to look for Kent grads and generally those in top 5% to 10% have successful outcomes. Below that, which is a huge number, it is still a huge crapshoot. Some may remember the unemployed EIC of the law review. He is now at Kirkland, but he is very much the minority. Even though he was EIC he was still in the top third or so. Grades seem to matter a lot. Those outside the top 10% are generally in smaller firms, doing some local prosecution or defense etc. In my year a few got picked up for JAG (2-3 Army, 2 AF, 1 Navy) if I remember correctly.

I think there is somewhat of a myth that students are cutthroat. I think everyone wants to do their best and will oiley work much harder (particularly in 1L year) than they may have in undergrad. However, I never saw or heard of anyone engaging in anything underhanded. Moreover, I found that upperclassmen who CALI'd a course were often happy to share their outlines.

The building is relatively new and quite pretty. It definitely does not have a college feel at all though. It is one building in the middle of the city. Only the law school and business school are in the building. You have to travel a little bit to get to some of the more pleasant areas of the city to hang out in. The school is very much in the business district.

Professors, for the overwhelming most part, are great. Very accessible, I never had any issues or heard of professors turning in grades late or reusing tests.

Bottom line, Kent is a great school. But, and it is a huge but, it is incredibly expensive. I think tuition is somewhere near 40k a year. While Chicago is not as expensive as NY it is still pricey. I would think long and hard about attending without a scholarship. Also, a significant number of students did lose their scholarships in my year. When I attended, the typical scholarship stip required a 3.25, with Kent's first year curve I think that worked out to approx top 25%. They may have changed things though.



thank you, this was helpful



Indeed, this was helpful! Thank you for your input.

I'd love to go to school in Chicago, but with the financial aspect in mind, I am wary. I did get a 10,000 scholarship with no stipulation other than having to attend classes at the school (which, I mean, I'd obviously be doing). That will decrease the cost a bit, but it is still a lot.

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby hi21 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:55 pm

illiniguy1551 wrote:Does Kent negotiate? $5000k more a year in scholly and I would enroll immediately!

cnk wrote:Do u have competing offers from similar or higher ranked schools? U can try to


I could use another $5000 more a year, too.

What if I have a competing offer from a significantly lower ranked school? Would they not think much of it?

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby hhockberger » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:58 pm

hi21 wrote:
illiniguy1551 wrote:Does Kent negotiate? $5000k more a year in scholly and I would enroll immediately!

cnk wrote:Do u have competing offers from similar or higher ranked schools? U can try to


I could use another $5000 more a year, too.

What if I have a competing offer from a significantly lower ranked school? Would they not think much of it?


Doesn't hurt to try! Let us know what they say.

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby hi21 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:07 pm

hhockberger wrote:
hi21 wrote:
illiniguy1551 wrote:Does Kent negotiate? $5000k more a year in scholly and I would enroll immediately!

cnk wrote:Do u have competing offers from similar or higher ranked schools? U can try to


I could use another $5000 more a year, too.

What if I have a competing offer from a significantly lower ranked school? Would they not think much of it?


Doesn't hurt to try! Let us know what they say.



How does one even go about asking...?

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby cnk » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:15 am

I would assume emailing admissions

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby hi21 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:41 am

cnk wrote:I would assume emailing admissions


I don't know if email is the best way to do it? Would calling or sending an actual letter be better?

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby hi21 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:44 am

Also, would it make sense to hold off on negotiating scholarships until I actually receive the acceptance packet?

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby hhockberger » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:27 am

hi21 wrote:
cnk wrote:I would assume emailing admissions


I don't know if email is the best way to do it? Would calling or sending an actual letter be better?


This post is really useful if you're unsure how to negotiate scholarships:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 22&t=79373

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby rshw89 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:35 am

It was tweeted that a big batch of decisions should come this afternoon. Good luck to all that are waiting.

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby cnk » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:25 pm

rshw89 wrote:It was tweeted that a big batch of decisions should come this afternoon. Good luck to all that are waiting.


ahh exciting!! *fingers crossed*

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby rshw89 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:59 pm

In via status checker.

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby 1984 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:55 pm

Waitlisted

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby nba101790 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:57 pm

For those of you hearing back, when did you go complete?

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Re: Chicago-Kent c/o 2016 (2012-2013) cycle Applicant Thread

Postby rshw89 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:15 pm

nba101790 wrote:For those of you hearing back, when did you go complete?


1/8/13




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