WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby johnnyh » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:45 pm

Big Dog wrote:
This has been in the works for some time.


Of course, it has been. (Those that think the manna just dropped from heaven don't understand organizations, and in particular, educational organizations.)

But the real question is, 'Why Now?' (From a marketing/pr standpoint, the College would get a much bigger bang for its buck by announcing months ago.)

Moral of the story: WUSTL rewards loyalty while all of us who jumped ship before the first deposit are getting the "I told you so" debt from other schools.


How does that explain WashU's groveling to some students who had already withdrawn?


BD:

If you let out all the $ months ago, other schools have a chance to respond and counter. There ae a number of T-20 schools with little or no scolly $ remaining. It is not groveling to withdrawn students. Most of those offers went to students with acceptances to fine schools, now a significant portion of those are coming to WUSTL. Not looking for a big bang...just a long one.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BigZuck » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:53 pm

johnnyh wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
This has been in the works for some time.


Of course, it has been. (Those that think the manna just dropped from heaven don't understand organizations, and in particular, educational organizations.)

But the real question is, 'Why Now?' (From a marketing/pr standpoint, the College would get a much bigger bang for its buck by announcing months ago.)

Moral of the story: WUSTL rewards loyalty while all of us who jumped ship before the first deposit are getting the "I told you so" debt from other schools.


How does that explain WashU's groveling to some students who had already withdrawn?


BD:

If you let out all the $ months ago, other schools have a chance to respond and counter. There ae a number of T-20 schools with little or no scolly $ remaining. It is not groveling to withdrawn students. Most of those offers went to students with acceptances to fine schools, now a significant portion of those are coming to WUSTL. Not looking for a big bang...just a long one.


Are you saying a "significant portion" of withdrawn students who were offered the fully are now changing course and attending WUSTL? If so, how do you know that?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby DoveBodyWash » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:55 pm

BigZuck wrote:
johnnyh wrote:BD:

If you let out all the $ months ago, other schools have a chance to respond and counter. There ae a number of T-20 schools with little or no scolly $ remaining. It is not groveling to withdrawn students. Most of those offers went to students with acceptances to fine schools, now a significant portion of those are coming to WUSTL. Not looking for a big bang...just a long one.


Are you saying a "significant portion" of withdrawn students who were offered the fully are now changing course and attending WUSTL? If so, how do you know that?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bananasplit19 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:56 pm

cusenation wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
johnnyh wrote:BD:

If you let out all the $ months ago, other schools have a chance to respond and counter. There ae a number of T-20 schools with little or no scolly $ remaining. It is not groveling to withdrawn students. Most of those offers went to students with acceptances to fine schools, now a significant portion of those are coming to WUSTL. Not looking for a big bang...just a long one.


Are you saying a "significant portion" of withdrawn students who were offered the fully are now changing course and attending WUSTL? If so, how do you know that?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby lhanvt13 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:15 pm

bananasplit19 wrote:This is the most Korean thing I've seen in a long time.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby zman » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:17 pm

they should be throwing all this money above their median, they would have gotten many of these 166s anyway.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby lhanvt13 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:37 pm

zman wrote:they should be throwing all this money above their median, they would have gotten many of these 166s anyway.

No no no no they should be throwing it at their 165s
I want money ._.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby sratcat » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:38 pm

johnnyh wrote:But the real question is, 'Why Now?' (From a marketing/pr standpoint, the College would get a much bigger bang for its buck by announcing months ago.)


Most schools make big financial decisions in June, after the school year is over. They probably just now decided to start implementing plan "T14 or Bust" or whatever they call it. Next year the scholarships they're throwing at 166s and 167s are going to go to 168s/169s. But since they have the money now they're giving it out to their higher LSATs/trying to entice a couple candidates back from other schools

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby JesusChrist » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:52 pm

As a 167 who had withdrawn, who should I email to find out if I can get this offer? General admissions email? Or a person.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby DoveBodyWash » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:54 pm

JesusChrist wrote:As a 167 who had withdrawn, who should I email to find out if I can get this offer? General admissions email? Or a person.

MAC or JL

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby zman » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:55 pm

sratcat wrote:
johnnyh wrote:But the real question is, 'Why Now?' (From a marketing/pr standpoint, the College would get a much bigger bang for its buck by announcing months ago.)


Most schools make big financial decisions in June, after the school year is over. They probably just now decided to start implementing plan "T14 or Bust" or whatever they call it. Next year the scholarships they're throwing at 166s and 167s are going to go to 168s/169s. But since they have the money now they're giving it out to their higher LSATs/trying to entice a couple candidates back from other schools


166 is not a "higher" LSAT, it's their median.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby sublime » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:55 pm

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ccb13 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:58 pm

I wonder if they're going to use any of this extra cash to distribute to those below a 166 after all the full-ride peeps have made their decisions? I'm assuming that not everyone who received the offer will take the bait. Honestly, this could really settle the Law School Self-Interest v. We Care For Our Students debate.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Homelandsagreatshow » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:01 pm

Freeze the tuition and everyone wins!

Well, some of us at least.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby zman » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:03 pm

how many apps did they get?? I mean last year they had 4000 but their ranking fell to 23rd(before making a comeback this year) so it must have declined sharply. too many people still pay attention to US news.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby JesusChrist » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:03 pm

cusenation wrote:
JesusChrist wrote:As a 167 who had withdrawn, who should I email to find out if I can get this offer? General admissions email? Or a person.

MAC or JL


Any idea how I should phrase this? I was pretty amicable in my withdrawing letter.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby DoveBodyWash » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:05 pm

zman wrote:how many apps did they get?? I mean last year they had 4000 but their ranking fell to 23rd(before making a comeback this year) so it must have declined sharply. too many people still pay attention to US news.

Hmmm not sure, the ABA data is from last year's cycle. Probably won't get that info until this time next year. I can see this full ride thing drawing more apps for next cycle though. Ppl can bitch and whine all they want about WUSTL's intentions or desperation, but at the end of the day they're gonna want a chance to win the scholarship lottery. FWIW I think the drop in apps will affect all the schools, not just WUSTL.

JesusChrist wrote:
cusenation wrote:
JesusChrist wrote:As a 167 who had withdrawn, who should I email to find out if I can get this offer? General admissions email? Or a person.

MAC or JL


Any idea how I should phrase this? I was pretty amicable in my withdrawing letter.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Mauve Lambeosaur » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:10 pm

ccb13 wrote:I wonder if they're going to use any of this extra cash to distribute to those below a 166 after all the full-ride peeps have made their decisions? I'm assuming that not everyone who received the offer will take the bait. Honestly, this could really settle the Law School Self-Interest v. We Care For Our Students debate.


Alternatively, if there's any truth to the "spend it or lose it" budget idea, then i would imagine they'll soon tender offers to 165s, as i doubt every tendered withdrawal will jump back. i think "self-interest v. we care" is probably a false dichotomy.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby zman » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:11 pm

"FWIW I think the drop in apps will affect all the schools, not just WUSTL."

yes true but because of the drop to 23rd WUSTL probably got hit much harder for his cycle than anyone currently in top 20. That's US news for you.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby DoveBodyWash » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:17 pm

zman wrote:"FWIW I think the drop in apps will affect all the schools, not just WUSTL."

yes true but because of the drop to 23rd WUSTL probably got hit much harder for his cycle than anyone currently in top 20. That's US news for you.

Ohhh yeah i can see that happening. But only 0L's who knew that WashU was #18 previously would see it as a drop. I'm assuming most ppl don't look at the U.S. News until they actually begin their cycle.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby WokeUpInACar » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:29 pm

I got offered a number that I said I'd attend for previously in like March, but given scholly increase at other school and having already locked up an apartment and it being this late in the game, things have changed. Pretty sure this is the only reason they didn't offer me the full ride lol. I basically asked for one late yesterday, but no response yet. We'll see I guess!

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ccb13 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:32 pm

All of this really makes one realize how at the end of the day it's one big chess game.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby zman » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:34 pm

ccb13 wrote:All of this really makes one realize how at the end of the day it's one big chess game.


WUSTL is the only school doing this in the top 20, there is no one else doing anything close to this. Not yet anyway.
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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby DoveBodyWash » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:35 pm

zman wrote:
ccb13 wrote:All of this really makes one realize how at the end of the day it's one big chess game.


WUSTL is the only school doing this in the top 20, there is no else doing anything close to this. Not yet anyway.

dat endowment.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby jdmonkey » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:48 pm

cusenation wrote:
JesusChrist wrote:As a 167 who had withdrawn, who should I email to find out if I can get this offer? General admissions email? Or a person.

MAC or JL


I would just send it to the general admissions account and the secretaries will forward it to whoever is in the office.




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