WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby LawSchoolAFROBarbie » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:25 am

too late to ask for a scholarship upgrade?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby sublime » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:38 am

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Jay2716 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:57 am

Aeropress wrote:
Jay2716 wrote:No need to be sorry Brah . I'll just wish upon a beer. Or two or three


we're all gonna make it brah


I didn't say this...

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby lhanvt13 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:46 am

Jay2716 wrote:
Aeropress wrote:
Jay2716 wrote:No need to be sorry Brah . I'll just wish upon a beer. Or two or three


we're all gonna make it brah


I didn't say this...

you took my words..

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Dolphine » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:50 am

I just realized they got rid of the "must maintain good academic standing" language in the full ride letters. So you guys just need to relax and have fun in law school. No need to gun muhahaha

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Xs20 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:14 am

Wow am I glad I didn't pick another school. Still don't get why they did this

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Dream Weave » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:23 am

Yeah all of those ND v. WUSTL would be a lot simpler. I would hate myself if I picked ND.

I am also somewhat regretting withdrawing, but how could any of us known this would happen. It's poor planning on the school's part to only be realizing their full budget at the very end of the cycle. They could have been throwing out full rides in the beginning and gotten people (me included) to have no choice but to happily commit.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby DoveBodyWash » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:57 am

Now that WUSTL has handed out a slew of full rides, people need to declare their loyalty.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Magnalum » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:21 am

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Postby DoveBodyWash » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:23 am

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BigZuck » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:24 am

Magnalum wrote:Hey guys, congrats to all who received the offer. This seems unprecedented. Is there some kind of catch? It just seems to good to be true.

Does anyone know why this is happening? (I saw a while back someone said the larger institution increased the budget, but this seems INSANE)


dat desperation?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby TigerChick13 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:31 pm

Magnalum wrote:Hey guys, congrats to all who received the offer. This seems unprecedented. Is there some kind of catch? It just seems to good to be true.

Does anyone know why this is happening? (I saw a while back someone said the larger institution increased the budget, but this seems INSANE)


If I had to guess, I would say it's a combination of something nice :D and something that will act as a lure to future applicants. "Oh, look at how many full ride scholarships WUSTL hands out! Let's apply here!" Also, more kids with less loans = more diversified career choices. If we're not all "biglaw or bust" due to student loans, more people can focus on getting clerkships and public interest jobs. That will draw in more applicants as well.

As for the increased budget, it really is in WUSTL as a whole's benefit to give more money to the law school. The undergrad and med school are both highly ranked. They probably want WUSTL Law up in the T14 to boost their reputation overall.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Xs20 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:32 pm

I'm just assuming they're using their huge endowment to buy medians and up their ranking, but who knows. There's at least 15 people that I know of who got this, so that's $2.2 million of their scholarship budget dropped on those people alone. I guess if they have that kind of dough to throw around then they might as well?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BigZuck » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:40 pm

TigerChick13 wrote:
Magnalum wrote:Hey guys, congrats to all who received the offer. This seems unprecedented. Is there some kind of catch? It just seems to good to be true.

Does anyone know why this is happening? (I saw a while back someone said the larger institution increased the budget, but this seems INSANE)


If I had to guess, I would say it's a combination of something nice :D and something that will act as a lure to future applicants. "Oh, look at how many full ride scholarships WUSTL hands out! Let's apply here!" Also, more kids with less loans = more diversified career choices. If we're not all "biglaw or bust" due to student loans, more people can focus on getting clerkships and public interest jobs. That will draw in more applicants as well.

As for the increased budget, it really is in WUSTL as a whole's benefit to give more money to the law school. The undergrad and med school are both highly ranked. They probably want WUSTL Law up in the T14 to boost their reputation overall.


Zippy chance WUSTL gets ranked above 19. No way they jump any of the UT/Vandy/UCLA/USC subgroup let alone Georgetown.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bananasplit19 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:50 pm

BigZuck wrote:Image

:lol: I don't think he was serious about moving into the T14, but if they're flashing the cash, I think it's feasible they at least join the 15-18 crowd as a solid peer school.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby DoveBodyWash » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:53 pm

bananasplit19 wrote: :lol: I don't think he was serious about moving into the T14, but if they're flashing the cash, I think it's feasible they at least join the 15-18 crowd as a solid peer school.

BigZuck wrote:Zippy chance WUSTL gets ranked above 19. No way they jump any of the UT/Vandy/UCLA/USC subgroup let alone Georgetown.

We were tied with USC at #18 last cycle. Also our reputation scores are, if i remember correctly, exactly tied with USC. Our job placement is lower, largely because we're in St. Louis (tiny market) and near Chicago (market that got destroyed by recession) and USC is in, i dunno, like the 2nd biggest market in the country. But there's no reason why couldn't tie or pass USC, it'll come down to the medians.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BigZuck » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:02 pm

cusenation wrote:
bananasplit19 wrote: :lol: I don't think he was serious about moving into the T14, but if they're flashing the cash, I think it's feasible they at least join the 15-18 crowd as a solid peer school.

BigZuck wrote:Zippy chance WUSTL gets ranked above 19. No way they jump any of the UT/Vandy/UCLA/USC subgroup let alone Georgetown.

We were tied with USC at #18 last cycle. Also our reputation scores are, if i remember correctly, exactly tied with USC. Our job placement is slightly lower, largely because we're in St. Louis (tiny market) and near Chicago (market that got destroyed by recession) and USC is in, i dunno, like the 2nd biggest market in the country. But there's no reason why couldn't tie or pass USC, it'll come down to the medians.


Didn't know that about the reputation score, I thought it was lower. That's the main reason I didn't think it was possible to pass USC. I guess then maybe it comes down to what USC can pull off with its medians. I know they went after 167s pretty hard but from the USC thread it sounds like most of the 167s weren't going for it. Should be interesting but I just don't see it happening.

Do we know how much employment really factors in and how it factors in?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby DoveBodyWash » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:06 pm

BigZuck wrote:Didn't know that about the reputation score, I thought it was lower. That's the main reason I didn't think it was possible to pass USC. I guess then maybe it comes down to what USC can pull off with its medians. I know they went after 167s pretty hard but from the USC thread it sounds like most of the 167s weren't going for it. Should be interesting but I just don't see it happening.

Do we know how much employment really factors in and how it factors in?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BigZuck » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:10 pm

I thought for some reason they were going to change how they calculated employment, isn't that how it's always been?

Anyway, of course WUSTL is a good school, top 20 material, it's just that people always speculate about these crazy jumps and stuff but it almost never really materializes. Becoming a true T18 (I know, lol@ that term) would be really, really tough and a T14 next to impossible. If UT can't jump GULC then I can't see WUSTL doing it.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby DoveBodyWash » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:13 pm

BigZuck wrote:.... it's just that people always speculate about these crazy jumps and stuff but it almost never really materializes. Becoming a true T18 (I know, lol@ that term) would be really, really tough and a T14 next to impossible. If UT can't jump GULC then I can't see WUSTL doing it.

+1

UT someone needs to jump GULC.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby nowhammies » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:15 pm

Dolphine wrote:
nowhammies wrote:
sideoffries wrote:Did anyone else get an email saying that some scholarship funds have opened up and they are offering you a full ride? I withdrew months ago.
We are excited to announce that additional scholarship funds have become available. As an outstanding applicant, Washington University School of Law is able to offer you a full tuition scholarship of $48,345 for your first year of law school with the same amount guaranteed for your 2L and 3L years for a total of $145,035 for the three years of law school.

We can only keep this opportunity open for 24 hours because these funds are limited. If you are interested in accepting this offer and matriculating at Washington U Law this year, you will need to let us know by June 13, 5pm CT.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. We look forward to hearing from you and seeing you here this fall!

I received this same email today. Also withdrew months ago. What's the deal? Give that money out to deserving candidates who have committed already.


I guess we should thank you nowhammies


That's right--I willed that the money be disbursed to candidates on this thread only.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby shifty_eyed » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:22 pm

WUSTL- lowballing me in scholly $$ even after withdrawing 8)

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BigZuck » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:30 pm

BigZuck wrote:
Magnalum wrote:Hey guys, congrats to all who received the offer. This seems unprecedented. Is there some kind of catch? It just seems to good to be true.

Does anyone know why this is happening? (I saw a while back someone said the larger institution increased the budget, but this seems INSANE)


dat desperation?


If anyone was offended by me saying that the school is desperate (I know one person did based on their PM to me), sorry, wasn't my intent. But when a school is throwing fullys to people who are under both medians from just two years ago that shows that they are desperate to shore up their medians this cycle. I think tons of schools are pretty desperate this cycle given the fall in apps and less high LSAT scores and I for one am really happy about that because I have had much better results than I expected. And so have many of you it seems. I think it's awesome for you guys and I am sincerely happy for you all.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Aeropress » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:43 pm

Jay2716 wrote:I didn't say this...


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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby jdmonkey » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:06 pm

Magnalum wrote:Hey guys, congrats to all who received the offer. This seems unprecedented. Is there some kind of catch? It just seems to good to be true.

Does anyone know why this is happening? (I saw a while back someone said the larger institution increased the budget, but this seems INSANE)


The WUSTL endowment is larger than that of Berkeley, UCLA, UVA, USC, NYU, Georgetown, and Cornell. WUSTL is simply buying out the competition just like U Chicago did when it wanted to get more prestigious. Never underestimate the power of our endowment! Better to spend the money on getting the best students than on ritzy faculty housing like NYU does.




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