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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby timeandspace11 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:24 pm

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cusenation wrote:Well last year the Dean explained that their ranking drop was due to the fact that the school implemented new ABA-reporting standards for reporting job placement to the U.S News a year earlier than other schools, and that next year (this year) their ranking should go back up once everyone else adheres to the same standards. But of course that depended on them maintaining the same LSAT medians, which they didn't. But I'd be surprised if WUSTL didn't move up slightly in the rankings just based on everyone else adopting the new reporting standards.

Re: 166-ish applicants, I definitely think that 166-167 is the new 168-169 as far as WUSTL scholly. Applications are down, especially for 165+ applicants. It's likely that the 168+ admits are gonna have "better" options, which will reduce the number of 168+ admits that the school can reliably count on to enroll. The 167-169 median that WUSTL previously had when it was #18 was achieved during the 2010-2011 cycle..which was apparently saw a huge spike in applications. I'm guessing the 10-11 cycle inflated medians for a lot of schools.

Anyway, I could be completely wrong about the macro-factors. But I do think you can count on a nice scholly package :D


What you say above is true, but the bolded part is going to be true for a lot of schools, and it will likely work to cancel things out. The lack of applicants means less students with higher LSATs to admit. A lot of the lower T14 and T30 schools saw median drops as well last year, and this year is going to be worse.


Agreed, it certainly seemed like many of the schools in the 16-30 range took a pretty big hit in LSAT medians last year. I jus looked at the number of December 2012 LSAT test takers and it is down 15.6% from the number of Dec 11 LSAT test takers. Its going to be interesting to see how this year plays out.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby Rory19 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:01 am

Just thought I would contribute--accepted via regular decision on 12/17. In the "phone interview" the interviewer implied I would be considered for the Webster Society Fellowship. Has anyone heard about fellowships yet?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby itown » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:31 pm

Rory19 wrote:Just thought I would contribute--accepted via regular decision on 12/17. In the "phone interview" the interviewer implied I would be considered for the Webster Society Fellowship. Has anyone heard about fellowships yet?



In by "phone interview" on Dec. 7. I applied for the Webster as well and it was mentioned during the call, but I haven't heard anything about the timeline. I would guess it's on the same schedule as regular scholarships, which are sent out starting in February according to the Admitted Students website.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby DoveBodyWash » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:33 pm

itown wrote:
Rory19 wrote:Just thought I would contribute--accepted via regular decision on 12/17. In the "phone interview" the interviewer implied I would be considered for the Webster Society Fellowship. Has anyone heard about fellowships yet?



In by "phone interview" on Dec. 7. I applied for the Webster as well and it was mentioned during the call, but I haven't heard anything about the timeline. I would guess it's on the same schedule as regular scholarships, which are sent out starting in February according to the Admitted Students website.


Congrats on the admits! I had to look up what Webster was because I had no idea, but it sounds like a sweet deal. I'd assume that the Webster follows the same or slightly delayed timeline as the merit awards, just because there's a limited number of Webster Fellowships and they're probably gonna want to evaluate as many applicants as possible before handing those out. Good luck to both of you!

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby JayJones78 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:50 pm

Can someone give more info on the interview process with wash u?
Do they ask you to interview on their discretion? If you travel there for a visit can you ask for an admissions interview? I'm confused by this :oops:

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby DoveBodyWash » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:55 pm

JayJones78 wrote:Can someone give more info on the interview process with wash u?
Do they ask you to interview on their discretion? If you travel there for a visit can you ask for an admissions interview? I'm confused by this :oops:


The interview process is new to WUSTL (at least they didn't do it last year). Based off of this thread it seems like people have both 1. been invited to interview and 2. requested to interview on their own. So far I don't think anyone who was invited to interview has been rejected/waitlisted. They've either been admitted or told to stand-by for a decision. Anyway it seems like it's possible to request one on your own. I'm not sure how in-person interviews would work during a visit. Thus far it seems they've almost exclusively been done via phone/Skype, it would be worth emailing them about if you're planning on visiting :D

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby itown » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:57 pm

cusenation wrote:
JayJones78 wrote:Can someone give more info on the interview process with wash u?
Do they ask you to interview on their discretion? If you travel there for a visit can you ask for an admissions interview? I'm confused by this :oops:


The interview process is new to WUSTL (at least they didn't do it last year). Based off of this thread it seems like people have both 1. been invited to interview and 2. requested to interview on their own. So far I don't think anyone who was invited to interview has been rejected/waitlisted. They've either been admitted or told to stand-by for a decision. Anyway it seems like it's possible to request one on your own. I'm not sure how in-person interviews would work during a visit. Thus far it seems they've almost exclusively been done via phone/Skype, it would be worth emailing them about if you're planning on visiting :D



https://law.wustl.edu/admissions/pages.aspx?id=9556

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby wannabelawstudent » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:02 pm

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby JayJones78 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:04 pm

itown wrote:
cusenation wrote:
JayJones78 wrote:Can someone give more info on the interview process with wash u?
Do they ask you to interview on their discretion? If you travel there for a visit can you ask for an admissions interview? I'm confused by this :oops:


The interview process is new to WUSTL (at least they didn't do it last year). Based off of this thread it seems like people have both 1. been invited to interview and 2. requested to interview on their own. So far I don't think anyone who was invited to interview has been rejected/waitlisted. They've either been admitted or told to stand-by for a decision. Anyway it seems like it's possible to request one on your own. I'm not sure how in-person interviews would work during a visit. Thus far it seems they've almost exclusively been done via phone/Skype, it would be worth emailing them about if you're planning on visiting :D



https://law.wustl.edu/admissions/pages.aspx?id=9556


Thank you both. I emailed them last night about a visit and they got back to me today. I just sent them another email asking about an on campus interview (like the one I had with NW) or if its possible to interview over the phone or over Skype.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby JayJones78 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:05 pm

wannabelawstudent wrote:FYI I requested an interview and have it in an hour....I hope I get in but I'm doubtful since my application only went complete last week (1/9)


Thanks for the info! Could you update here once you're done?

Good luck!! :D

EDIT: just talked the admissions office and I have a phone interview tomorrow with Krystal Orr. Thanks for the info! Any tips?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby wannabelawstudent » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:24 pm

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby JayJones78 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:27 pm

wannabelawstudent wrote:Well, I had my interview, it went alright, kinda just how I expected it. Again I applied last week and she said they admissions council had a chance to look over my file and at the end she said she would be sending it to them for a final decision....so who knows. She said the LSAC made an error on my CAS and had to send out another one or something, which caused some confusion I guess. I thought my LSAT would be enough to get in and overcome my GPA but I'm not very optimistic.


Glad to hear you finished it content. I felt kind of the same after my NW on campus interview. Did she ask the usual "why law school, why wash u, tell me about a tough moment in undergrad, what is your strengths" and such? Anything special to know?

Also did you interview with Krystal Orr as well?

Thanks & good luck!!

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby DoveBodyWash » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:33 pm

wannabelawstudent wrote:Well, I had my interview, it went alright, kinda just how I expected it. Again I applied last week and she said they admissions council had a chance to look over my file and at the end she said she would be sending it to them for a final decision....so who knows. Interesting thing to note, she said the LSAC made an error on my CAS and had to send out another one or something, which caused some confusion I guess. I thought my LSAT would be enough to get in and overcome my GPA but I'm not very optimistic.


Personally I don't think WUSTL is in a position to turn down a 167 right now. I definitely don't think they'll reject you outright..Worst case scenario is waitlist...and probably an offer later down the road if you demonstrate real interest 8)

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby Tremendous » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:36 pm

Just got an email confirming my RSVP to the ASD on the 25th.

I'm flying in on Thursday night and leaving on Saturday evening. That should give me some good extra time to explore St. Louis without having to pay for the 3rd night in a hotel.

Speaking of which, probably going to stay at the Moonrise based on many others' recommendations.

Very excited!

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby wannabelawstudent » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:38 pm

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby DoveBodyWash » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:44 pm

wannabelawstudent wrote:
cusenation wrote:
wannabelawstudent wrote:Well, I had my interview, it went alright, kinda just how I expected it. Again I applied last week and she said they admissions council had a chance to look over my file and at the end she said she would be sending it to them for a final decision....so who knows. Interesting thing to note, she said the LSAC made an error on my CAS and had to send out another one or something, which caused some confusion I guess. I thought my LSAT would be enough to get in and overcome my GPA but I'm not very optimistic.


Personally I don't think WUSTL is in a position to turn down a 167 right now. I definitely don't think they'll reject you outright..Worst case scenario is waitlist...and probably an offer later down the road if you demonstrate real interest 8)


Maybe...I just feel like if the admissions council already had a chance to look at that and didn't already say yes then I'm in trouble. Although, she did make it sound like that error in the CAS report had delayed a decision. I guess the first CAS report said another transcript was coming, so they had to send out another saying there wasn't another transcript, and she was trying to clarify that with me.


Try not to be too discouraged by her tone of voice or hesitation to admit you immediately. Your LSAT is more valuable to them than any perceived risk of taking your GPA. Whether it's 2.5 or 3.2, once your GPA is below the 25th quartile mark, it's below. But your LSAT is right where their median is (or where they would like it to be). Even if they don't seem enthusiastic about your app now, they will be later. They'd be crazy to outright reject a 167 considering the decreasing apps, their traditional yield problem, and ranking drop from last year.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby JayJones78 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:48 pm

My interview is scheduled for tomorrow. Anyone has any tips on why wash u?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby Tremendous » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:55 pm

JayJones78 wrote:My interview is scheduled for tomorrow. Anyone has any tips on why wash u?


A few things I thought about for this before my interview:
- Excellent overall institutional reputation
- Clinical programs
- Personal ties to the Midwest and an interest in living in St. Louis
- Great professors, facilities, campus
- Collegial student atmosphere

Also, it seems to be a law school that is on the rise in multiple areas, and that is exciting.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby wannabelawstudent » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:27 pm

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby bananasplit19 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:29 pm

wannabelawstudent wrote:....the struggles of the spiltter student continues....

They should write a folk song about us.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby JayJones78 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:31 pm

Tremendous wrote:
JayJones78 wrote:My interview is scheduled for tomorrow. Anyone has any tips on why wash u?


A few things I thought about for this before my interview:
- Excellent overall institutional reputation
- Clinical programs
- Personal ties to the Midwest and an interest in living in St. Louis
- Great professors, facilities, campus
- Collegial student atmosphere

Also, it seems to be a law school that is on the rise in multiple areas, and that is exciting.


Thank you for this. I'll do some reading about the school and hope for the best :shock:

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby dsn32 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:32 pm

Any thoughts on what the hold-up would be for me (3.62, 170)? WashU is the only non-T14 I'm still waiting on, starting to become wary of the YP. Any thoughts for a course of action for me to take?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby nowhammies » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:33 pm

JayJones78 wrote:My interview is scheduled for tomorrow. Anyone has any tips on why wash u?


Are you serious? You applied to the school and you don't have any original thoughts on why you wish to attend? There's no one magical answer that the interviewers like to hear.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby wannabelawstudent » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:38 pm

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Postby alwayssunnyinfl » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:41 pm

wannabelawstudent wrote:What's the YP?

Yield protection. One of the factors of USNWR rankings is selectivity, and another is yield (of the number of applicants admitted, how many actually matriculate.) By not accepting students who would most likely go somewhere else anyway, schools help with both of those numbers.

However, WUSTL in the past has shown no signs of practicing YP, so this would be a first.




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