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Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:46 pm
by DoveBodyWash
clyde13 wrote:I called and asked about scholarships today and they said that they were "hoping to get them out this week". Not sure if that's news to anyone, but I just wanted to pass it along to you guys.


I'm forcing XS20 to call and ask abt scholly release as a random admitted student.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:46 pm
by JayJones78
RedGiant wrote:
Dmini7 wrote:
Crowing wrote:
icanbeohyes wrote:From those NLJ250 stats, GWU is looking like a better option even though it's in a more crowded market. Maybe a crowded market is better than none at all?...I'm starting to rethink my decision to attend ASD (unless they send out scholarships before then)


GWU is a pretty decent biglaw feeder if that's what you're really after. The main criticisms levied against GWU are 1) it's located in a high COL area but tends to be very stingy with scholarship money and 2) in recent years it has put a ridiculous amount of people into school-funded positions.


I am not sure if this also plays a big role but GWU has a top IP program. So (correct me if I am wrong here) alot of students placing in these positions are probably from said program. I do not think I am too far off as Santa Clara University is also on the list and I am quite certain the only students who get big law from there are IP ones.


I work at a top Valley law firm. We do take some non-IP folks from Santa Clara, but it's a rarity. Our peers do too. Again, must be better than top 15% (even 20 or 25% will get you to midlaw if you're looking at corporate from Santa Clara). Just FYI--I've been bouncing around the Valley for 5+ years, so I don't think I'm mistaken on that (and have friends who have graduated within the past 1-4 years from Santa Clara too).


I'm really wondering what makes people decide to attend Santa Clara, unless they get a full ride (and even then I'm unsure)

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:52 pm
by Dmini7
Probably specialty rankings for IP. That or they never set their eyes on this site and it is close to home. Heck before I found this site I would've been ecstatic to be accepted there. I was honestly thinking I would be rejected from chapman and that SCU and chapman were my reaches due to my GPA.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:53 pm
by JayJones78
Dmini7 wrote:Probably specialty rankings for IP. That or they never set their eyes on this site and it is close to home. Heck before I found this site I would've been ecstatic to be accepted there. I was honestly thinking I would be rejected from chapman and that SCU and chapman were my reaches due to my GPA.


I'm not judging people who decide to attend SCU but more trying to understand the reasoning behind it (same this as the reasoning behind AU)

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:55 pm
by Unoriginalist
shntn wrote:For a period of one week, I've decided to report the sender of every non-scholarship e-mail to the police. Justice must be served.

ETA: what's that, Groupon? 50% off? Better hope you can use that discount on your bail.


This was under-appreciated haha



Ok, I've literally been on edge all day waiting to hear scholarships, and reading that they're only hoping to get them out this week severely depresses me. Ugh...

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:55 pm
by DoveBodyWash
Dmini7 wrote:Probably specialty rankings for IP. That or they never set their eyes on this site and it is close to home. Heck before I found this site I would've been ecstatic to be accepted there. I was honestly thinking I would be rejected from chapman and that SCU and chapman were my reaches due to my GPA.


+1
The vast majority of law school applicants/students don't visit this site at all. I guess Santa Clare and similar schools could make sense if you're IP (have a hard science degree) and/or are offered a shit-ton of scholly.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I'll re-iterate in case anyone missed it.


IGNORE SPECIALTY RANKINGS. If you look at how the U.S News calculates those, you'll see just how meaningless they are. Employers don't care if Chicago-Kent has one of the "best legal writing programs in the country." Same with IP. You are IP if you have a hard science degree and are therefore eligible to take the patent bar. The "specialty ranking" of your school is irrelevant

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:56 pm
by shntn
cusenation wrote:
Dmini7 wrote:Probably specialty rankings for IP. That or they never set their eyes on this site and it is close to home. Heck before I found this site I would've been ecstatic to be accepted there. I was honestly thinking I would be rejected from chapman and that SCU and chapman were my reaches due to my GPA.


+1
The vast majority of law school applicants/students don't visit this site at all. I guess Santa Clare and similar schools could make sense if you're IP (have a hard science degree) and/or are offered a shit-ton of scholly.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I'll re-iterate in case anyone missed it.


IGNORE SPECIALTY RANKINGS. If you look at how the U.S News calculates those, you'll see just how meaningless they are. Employers don't care if Chicago-Kent has one of the "best legal writing programs in the country." Same with IP. You are IP if you have a hard science degree and are therefore eligible to take the patent bar. The "specialty ranking" of your school is irrelevant

I used to be SO INTO American because "well they're really highly ranked in International Law!" -_-

Thank gawd I found TLS.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:57 pm
by Dmini7
JayJones78 wrote:
Dmini7 wrote:Probably specialty rankings for IP. That or they never set their eyes on this site and it is close to home. Heck before I found this site I would've been ecstatic to be accepted there. I was honestly thinking I would be rejected from chapman and that SCU and chapman were my reaches due to my GPA.


I'm not judging people who decide to attend SCU but more trying to understand the reasoning behind it (same this as the reasoning behind AU)


Yeah I understand what your saying. I just don't think a lot of people have done research and actually seen how poorly these schools perform. That along with the advice from boomers who suggest local TTT really seem to doom kids :/

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:00 pm
by anteater1
Don't know how the scholly's are supposed to arrive but I'm so delusional I leaped out of my seat when I got a phone call from WA not realizing the obvious mistake.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:03 pm
by Xs20
shntn wrote:I used to be SO INTO American because "well they're really highly ranked in International Law!" -_-

Your improv comedy skills would be on fucking point, though.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:04 pm
by danielr
anteater1 wrote:Don't know how the scholly's are supposed to arrive but I'm so delusional I leaped out of my seat when I got a phone call from WA not realizing the obvious mistake.


Even though they are supposed to arrive by email, that would be the appropriate reaction.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:06 pm
by shntn
Xs20 wrote:
shntn wrote:I used to be SO INTO American because "well they're really highly ranked in International Law!" -_-

Your improv comedy skills would be on fucking point, though.

"So what's the deal with those collection agencies, right? I mean, I'm on the bus to Blimpie's, already running late so I know my manager's gonna be pissed, and I get my fifth call of the morning. It's like, stop wasting my minutes already! Da-dun-chhh!"

*runs from stage, sobbing*

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:09 pm
by Xs20
shntn wrote:
Xs20 wrote:
shntn wrote:I used to be SO INTO American because "well they're really highly ranked in International Law!" -_-

Your improv comedy skills would be on fucking point, though.

"So what's the deal with those collection agencies, right? I mean, I'm on the bus to Blimpie's, already running late so I know my manager's gonna be pissed, and I get my fifth call of the morning. It's like, stop wasting my minutes already! Da-dun-chhh!"

*runs from stage, sobbing*

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:18 pm
by DoveBodyWash
I still think scholly will be released this week for most of us..

Saying "hopefully" is probably just a way for them to protect themselves in case something happens and they have to delay. Kind of like how NU's letter is described as being "available within 24 hours." It never actually took that long.

They've never said "this week" before. They've always hinted at some later date/time of the month (pun intended)

Maybe they'll release scholly in batches so some of us will get them at different times..but I'm confident that they'll come out this week.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:19 pm
by Unoriginalist
I just read in the OP that WashU is accepting June LSAT scores? Is that typical, or did they move their deadline to try and wrangle some late applicants?

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:25 pm
by DoveBodyWash
Unoriginalist wrote:I just read in the OP that WashU is accepting June LSAT scores? Is that typical, or did they move their deadline to try and wrangle some late applicants?



It's not "typical" but I imagine schools across the board are extending deadlines in an attempt to net as many applicants as possible

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:29 pm
by RedGiant
I am not sure if this also plays a big role but GWU has a top IP program. So (correct me if I am wrong here) alot of students placing in these positions are probably from said program. I do not think I am too far off as Santa Clara University is also on the list and I am quite certain the only students who get big law from there are IP ones.[/quote]

I work at a top Valley law firm. We do take some non-IP folks from Santa Clara, but it's a rarity. Our peers do too. Again, must be better than top 15% (even 20 or 25% will get you to midlaw if you're looking at corporate from Santa Clara). Just FYI--I've been bouncing around the Valley for 5+ years, so I don't think I'm mistaken on that (and have friends who have graduated within the past 1-4 years from Santa Clara too).[/quote]

I'm really wondering what makes people decide to attend Santa Clara, unless they get a full ride (and even then I'm unsure)[/quote]


I have been strongly advised by people in my office, and others, that I should "aim higher" than SCU. I actually have found the Santa Clara grads I've worked with to be quite competent attorneys, and always very nice people, but even they stress that they are the exceptions, rather than the rule, from their school. I also have a close friend who attended there who has failed the bar FOUR TIMES and is now pursuing a non-legal career. It's CA, so it's tough and all, but at that point, I question what exactly she learned for $225K (yes, she's in for that much). Another friend's husband went there as they are tied to the area and he's a non-trad--he got ONE bad grade his 1L year, dropped out of the top 20% and had a heckuva time with OCI. It's a rough, expensive place to get a degree, if biglaw is your goal. If you want to work in Tech Trans or in-house, I think it's a fine choice. The Valley is dripping with opportunity for law grads.

And now, back to a school that I like much better....WUSL!!!

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:32 pm
by wannabelawstudent
shntn wrote:For a period of one week, I've decided to report the sender of every non-scholarship e-mail to the police. Justice must be served.

ETA: what's that, Groupon? 50% off? Better hope you can use that discount on your bail.

This is an underrated post. I search and unsubscribed whenever I've gotten an email after sending my app. No more 5 tops to reducing my waistline :(

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:44 pm
by Big Dog
I just read in the OP that WashU is accepting June LSAT scores? Is that typical, or did they move their deadline to try and wrangle some late applicants?


Smart play. If a bunch of matriculants retake, WashU's reported numbers can only go up.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:52 pm
by alwayssunnyinfl
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I appreciate the enthusiasm, Google, but this is not a rave.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:17 pm
by JadeWest
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:[img]

I appreciate the enthusiasm, Google, but this is not a rave.


BA in legal studies at Keiser university online!?!?! Smells like opportunity!!!

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:42 pm
by danielr
For admitted students: How have interactions with your current student "matches" been going? My contact has been helpful so far. We discussed summer opportunities (in 1L & 2L years), the importance of networking, and law school examinations. It's pretty standard stuff, but anyone can feel free to PM me for more detail, if you like.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:44 pm
by RedGiant
danielr wrote:For admitted students: How have interactions with your current student "matches" been going? My contact has been helpful so far. We discussed summer opportunities (in 1L & 2L years), the importance of networking, and law school examinations. It's pretty standard stuff, but anyone can feel free to PM me for more detail, if you like.


Still waiting for a match, but I haven't gotten any hard copy anything from WUSL yet--in about 2 weeks ago....

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:45 pm
by alwayssunnyinfl
RedGiant wrote:
danielr wrote:For admitted students: How have interactions with your current student "matches" been going? My contact has been helpful so far. We discussed summer opportunities (in 1L & 2L years), the importance of networking, and law school examinations. It's pretty standard stuff, but anyone can feel free to PM me for more detail, if you like.


Still waiting for a match, but I haven't gotten any hard copy anything from WUSL yet--in about 2 weeks ago....

You should be getting something in the mail soon. It took about two weeks for me to get my packet in the mail.

Re: Eternal, Never Off the First Page, WUSTL is the Best Thread.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:47 pm
by dproduct
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:[img]waterandcloudsTSOPRETTY[/img]

I appreciate the enthusiasm, Google, but this is not a rave.


Cute theme Sunny.