W&L c/o 2016 Forum

[talesofyore]

$35,000

[JayJones78]

$35,000

That's amazing! Per year I assume? What/is there a stip on it?

[talesofyore]

$35,000

That's amazing! Per year I assume? What/is there a stip on it?

Same as everyone elses. 3.15 GPA requirement

[JayJones78]

$35,000

That's amazing! Per year I assume? What/is there a stip on it?

Same as everyone elses. 3.15 GPA requirement

That's wonderful to hear. Hopefully I'll get mine in the mail tomorrow. Though my numbers are really low with LSAT so I'm not expecting much/anything for the that matter....

[talesofyore]

$35,000

That's amazing! Per year I assume? What/is there a stip on it?

Same as everyone elses. 3.15 GPA requirement

That's wonderful to hear. Hopefully I'll get mine in the mail tomorrow. Though my numbers are really low with LSAT so I'm not expecting much/anything for the that matter....

Your GPA is higher than mine.

[PRgradBYU]

Bummer. I thought I'd at least have a chance at a partial scholly with my numbers and softs. We'll have to see if they end up sending one out next Tuesday! Are the scholly letters included with the regular admissions decision letters or are they separate?

[JayJones78]

Bummer. I thought I'd at least have a chance at a partial scholly with my numbers and softs. We'll have to see if they end up sending one out next Tuesday! Are the scholly letters included with the regular admissions decision letters or are they separate?

Separate

[Circlewave]

dang...i only got 15k/yr. congrats to all who got big bucks.

w&l is my top choice by a mile, but it might be too expensive, considering i have half tuition from 3 other schools

[cartejul]

Waitlisted which is amazing for my stats!
158/3.36

Loved my visit, lining up a phone interview ASAP, and hope to hear before April 15th!! The school is so unique and the people there are genuine and friendly. congrats to all the admits and good luck to everyone waiting!

[JayJones78]

Waitlisted which is amazing for my stats!
158/3.36

Loved my visit, lining up a phone interview ASAP, and hope to hear before April 15th!! The school is so unique and the people there are genuine and friendly. congrats to all the admits and good luck to everyone waiting!

Crossing my fingers for you!! Can you tell more about your visit?

[cartejul]

Waitlisted which is amazing for my stats!
158/3.36

Loved my visit, lining up a phone interview ASAP, and hope to hear before April 15th!! The school is so unique and the people there are genuine and friendly. congrats to all the admits and good luck to everyone waiting!

Crossing my fingers for you!! Can you tell more about your visit?

Thank you, that's so nice! I'd be happy too although I'll warn you this is gonna be long haha

Lexington is a small little town with windy, hilly streets and small businesses. On the outskirts of downtown, you'll find a Food Lion, Taco Bell and some other familiar chain stores but definitely nothing huge. The Law Building is located on the North end of campus near the athletic fields and gym and with the exception of a few sorority houses, away from the undergrad portion (a plus in my eyes). The on-campus apartments are right across the street from the law school as well, but the consensus is that no law students really live there and those who do don't stay. Only about 10 live there currently and the school recognizes that it's not ideal to be mixed with undergrads. It also seems like since everyone else lives off campus (a 10-15 minute walk usually), one starts to feel isolated and *too* close to the school. The building itself feels very traditional, with wooden paneled walls and carpets, chalkboards in the classroom, and a marked lack of some of the uber-modern atmospheres I've found at other schools. For some, it may feel outdated-- for me, it reminds me of the academic buildings I frequent and love at my current college.

The class I sat in on was engaging and the students in the section also reminded me of my current student body. I counted 10 URMs in a 50ish person section, and everyone seemed to mingle with each other before the prof came in. Some of the girls looked like your stereotypical WASP with the Tory Burch flats, Louie Vuitton bags, etc but I wouldn't say it was overwhelming. The guys were a mixed bag as well, some wearing khakis and a button down and others in hoodies and jeans. The prof was engaging, clear, and even got a few laughs out of students. Apparently, he was a theatre major at Yale and likes to recite Shakespeare from time to time or 'act out' the cases. The guy next to me had bloodshot eyes and nodded off a few times and it was well into the afternoon and only the second day of classes... when I asked my tour guide about this, she summed it up by saying there are definitely two camps: those who take law school seriously and those who see it as an extension of college. I'm fairly certain this is something that's found at every school, but I was happy that my guide was so forthcoming.

The student cubbies in the library were really neat, decorated like cubicles with personal photos tacked up on a built-in pinboard and stocked with other amenities. Each have their own locker as well so you can store your stuff there if you choose to 'leave school at school.' The current 1L class is 40 or so over their average class size, so not everyone was afforded their own cubby, but everyone was guaranteed their own study space so you'll see makeshift cubicles in different lounge areas around. When I walked around shortly after lunchtime, there were lots of people socializing with each other or studying together in small groups.

Admissions is so awesome. They really take the time to have a conversation with you and asked me questions about my observations in the classroom and also what my general thoughts/concerns are at this point in the application process. I've been to other schools where I felt pushed out or that the meeting was just a formality, and this was a total 180 at W&L. You can really tell that they value who you are as a person and want to get to know you so they can make a well-rounded class that meshes well.

Per Dean McShay's suggestion, I finished my visit by going down to the Brief Stop, their small eatery with soups/sandwiches/etc, and stopping a random passerby to ask about the school. The girl I stopped was so eager to talk to me and even flagged down her guy friend to chime in too (he ended up walking me out and wishing me luck with everything.) They reiterated some of the things I've heard about over and over which I will highlight now:
--Everyone I talked to came in to law school with the POV "I'm not here to make friends, just to do my best" and they all have made amazing close friends that they will keep in touch with even after school. There's a very genuine atmosphere where no one competes with each other, no one asks about each other's grades/internship opps/etc, and where everyone attends the social functions put on by the SBA and gets down. To quote the girl, "If someone comes here with a competitive cut throat attitude, they quickly realize they don't fit in and that they are left out of the mix and fall into line with everyone else."
--The Honor System is no joke. You never have to worry about notes being ripped up, books being stolen, computers being messed with, or any of that mess. There are even posters around like "$2 found on floor, call 555-5555 to claim," or money is just seen lying around.
--Alums will do anything for you. They love connecting with current students and networking, and feel confident in hiring them. They know that since W&L turns out a small number of students, it's a special connection shared. They also know that grads uphold the conduct of the Honor System and trust them as employees because of it.

ok, i think i've gone on long enough and I hope that's been helpful! I'm really glad I visited so I encourage anyone interested to do the same. It's the same idea as undergrad with the small vs big school -- there's a huge difference between the two environments, so it's important to judge for yourself if it's your scene or not.

[JayJones78]

Waitlisted which is amazing for my stats!
158/3.36

Loved my visit, lining up a phone interview ASAP, and hope to hear before April 15th!! The school is so unique and the people there are genuine and friendly. congrats to all the admits and good luck to everyone waiting!

Crossing my fingers for you!! Can you tell more about your visit?

Thank you, that's so nice! I'd be happy too although I'll warn you this is gonna be long haha

Lexington is a small little town with windy, hilly streets and small businesses. On the outskirts of downtown, you'll find a Food Lion, Taco Bell and some other familiar chain stores but definitely nothing huge. The Law Building is located on the North end of campus near the athletic fields and gym and with the exception of a few sorority houses, away from the undergrad portion (a plus in my eyes). The on-campus apartments are right across the street from the law school as well, but the consensus is that no law students really live there and those who do don't stay. Only about 10 live there currently and the school recognizes that it's not ideal to be mixed with undergrads. It also seems like since everyone else lives off campus (a 10-15 minute walk usually), one starts to feel isolated and *too* close to the school. The building itself feels very traditional, with wooden paneled walls and carpets, chalkboards in the classroom, and a marked lack of some of the uber-modern atmospheres I've found at other schools. For some, it may feel outdated-- for me, it reminds me of the academic buildings I frequent and love at my current college.

The class I sat in on was engaging and the students in the section also reminded me of my current student body. I counted 10 URMs in a 50ish person section, and everyone seemed to mingle with each other before the prof came in. Some of the girls looked like your stereotypical WASP with the Tory Burch flats, Louie Vuitton bags, etc but I wouldn't say it was overwhelming. The guys were a mixed bag as well, some wearing khakis and a button down and others in hoodies and jeans. The prof was engaging, clear, and even got a few laughs out of students. Apparently, he was a theatre major at Yale and likes to recite Shakespeare from time to time or 'act out' the cases. The guy next to me had bloodshot eyes and nodded off a few times and it was well into the afternoon and only the second day of classes... when I asked my tour guide about this, she summed it up by saying there are definitely two camps: those who take law school seriously and those who see it as an extension of college. I'm fairly certain this is something that's found at every school, but I was happy that my guide was so forthcoming.

The student cubbies in the library were really neat, decorated like cubicles with personal photos tacked up on a built-in pinboard and stocked with other amenities. Each have their own locker as well so you can store your stuff there if you choose to 'leave school at school.' The current 1L class is 40 or so over their average class size, so not everyone was afforded their own cubby, but everyone was guaranteed their own study space so you'll see makeshift cubicles in different lounge areas around. When I walked around shortly after lunchtime, there were lots of people socializing with each other or studying together in small groups.

Admissions is so awesome. They really take the time to have a conversation with you and asked me questions about my observations in the classroom and also what my general thoughts/concerns are at this point in the application process. I've been to other schools where I felt pushed out or that the meeting was just a formality, and this was a total 180 at W&L. You can really tell that they value who you are as a person and want to get to know you so they can make a well-rounded class that meshes well.

Per Dean McShay's suggestion, I finished my visit by going down to the Brief Stop, their small eatery with soups/sandwiches/etc, and stopping a random passerby to ask about the school. The girl I stopped was so eager to talk to me and even flagged down her guy friend to chime in too (he ended up walking me out and wishing me luck with everything.) They reiterated some of the things I've heard about over and over which I will highlight now:
--Everyone I talked to came in to law school with the POV "I'm not here to make friends, just to do my best" and they all have made amazing close friends that they will keep in touch with even after school. There's a very genuine atmosphere where no one competes with each other, no one asks about each other's grades/internship opps/etc, and where everyone attends the social functions put on by the SBA and gets down. To quote the girl, "If someone comes here with a competitive cut throat attitude, they quickly realize they don't fit in and that they are left out of the mix and fall into line with everyone else."
--The Honor System is no joke. You never have to worry about notes being ripped up, books being stolen, computers being messed with, or any of that mess. There are even posters around like "$2 found on floor, call 555-5555 to claim," or money is just seen lying around.
--Alums will do anything for you. They love connecting with current students and networking, and feel confident in hiring them. They know that since W&L turns out a small number of students, it's a special connection shared. They also know that grads uphold the conduct of the Honor System and trust them as employees because of it.

ok, i think i've gone on long enough and I hope that's been helpful! I'm really glad I visited so I encourage anyone interested to do the same. It's the same idea as undergrad with the small vs big school -- there's a huge difference between the two environments, so it's important to judge for yourself if it's your scene or not.

Thanks so much for the detailed response!! It assures a lot of wha it already think and I really can't wait to get there on ASW and see it.
thanks again and good luck to you!

[kay2016]

Did everyone who was accepted before Tuesday get mailed a letter? I got the email but no snail mail as of Friday's mail..

It's going to be hard to compete with one of my offers but w&l sounds great

[JayJones78]

Did everyone who was accepted before Tuesday get mailed a letter? I got the email but no snail mail as of Friday's mail..

It's going to be hard to compete with one of my offers but w&l sounds great

Still no letter for me but I live pretty far from them. I assume it'll be in the mail today. If not ill have to wait until Tuesdays because of MLK day

[kay2016]

I live in Indiana.. But my mail is notoriously slow as can be.. Fingers crossed for both of us!

[JayJones78]

I live in Indiana.. But my mail is notoriously slow as can be.. Fingers crossed for both of us!

YES. I'm also waiting for my ND decision letter. The use of postal service for things like these is so unnecessary IMHO and is such a waste of money and waste of paper a d resources. There will be absolutely no difference if ND would have given me a formal decision over email and if W&L for that matter would simply email me the $ info. I don't get why they waste money and abuse the environment for these things

[kay2016]

It's okay, when I was waiting on my IU letter they just said "decision made" so I didn't even know if the letter had been mailed! Talk about anxiety and unneeded stress...

That one worked out pretty well for me though!

[kuttlefish]

$40k, same stips as everyone else. W&L just moved very high up my list.

Suck it Georgetown! Tulane and Emory, you're on notice. If you want my love you better bring the cash!

[JayJones78]

$40k, same stips as everyone else. W&L just moved very high up my list.

Suck it Georgetown! Tulane and Emory, you're on notice. If you want my love you better bring the cash!

nice!! it's only 914am here so I'll just have to stalk my mailman until the envelope arrives though I'm not expecting much

[kay2016]

Be sure to let us know if you get it!

I am at work all day so my anticipation drags on

[2012Lsatscore]

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[PRgradBYU]

The use of postal service for things like these is so unnecessary IMHO and is such a waste of money and waste of paper a d resources.

Agreed. Law schools might try to argue that snail mail adds a personal touch to things like this (e.g. building suspense waiting for a $ letter) but aside from the informational materials, it's a waste of everyone's time.

90k. Which is right for my numbers. Man, my decision is going to be tough.

That's awesome! Congrats, man.

[edwardt1988]

40K/yr, which is very tempting. Unfortunately I can't really leverage other schools like BU/ GW for more money based on this.

[kay2016]

Congrats guys!

I hope I have a letter waiting!

[priyank90]

30K/year with a 164, 3.61 Non-URM, wow...so much for the discussion between W&L or W&M!