University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 1693 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:46 pm

nickb285 wrote:Congrats 1693! I haven't gotten the packet yet, but like I said, Aguilar claims scholarship info won't go out till the first week of March. Hopefully it'll actually be earlier and he's just doing a CYA, but I'm not expecting anything anytime soon.

Also Pip, I don't know about 1693 but my status checker still hasn't changed from "In Review." And SLC area code is 801 :).


Thanks! and thank you for the headsup!

What are your favorite things about Utah/SLC? I have never been to the area. Also, kinda OT but just curious, how big of an impact does the Mormon culture have on day-to-day life? Also, are there any Jewish people in the area? Just curious, thanks :lol:

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 1693 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:56 pm

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1693 wrote:Also got the call today :) Did anyone who was accepted receive scholarship info with their packet?


Grats! When did you go complete if you don't mind me asking? Did your status checker change? The more I read about Utah the more I want to go!

I will probably just stare at my phone until it rings with a SLC caller ID.


Thank you Pip! We seem to have very similar cycles thus far, so I have no doubts about your impending acceptance as well!

I don't know what date I went complete, but I submitted on 11/5 with all things done for my application. My last status says "In Review 12/11" but I got the phone call today. Status still hasn't changed. Hopign yours comes soon!!

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby nickb285 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:15 pm

1693 wrote:What are your favorite things about Utah/SLC?


I love the outdoors--hiking, skiing (though I can't usually afford to do that), camping, etc. It's incredibly accessible--from Salt Lake City, you're within an hour or so of national forests, innumerable hiking trails, eight excellent ski resorts, mountain biking trails, climbing areas, etc. Within a few hours' drive, there are five national parks and 30-something state parks.

Salt Lake City is, for me, about the perfect size--it's small enough that crime isn't much of a concern (outside of a few areas that are well away from both campus and the main downtown area) and it's very clean and easy to get around, but it's big enough that, despite the legislature's best efforts, there's a decent bar scene, quite a few good restaurants, places to shop and hang out, lots of concerts, etc. If you want specific recommendations on any of the above just ask.

Also, kinda OT but just curious, how big of an impact does the Mormon culture have on day-to-day life? Also, are there any Jewish people in the area? Just curious, thanks :lol:


Someone asked me a similar question via PM a while back, here's what I sent him:

"It's really not all that bad. I'm not LDS, and I've lived here since I was 7 and have traveled around quite a bit as well (so I have a large frame of reference), and I don't have an issue. I would stay out of Utah County, where BYU is; the county is something like 90% LDS, as opposed to Salt Lake County which is just over 50% and Salt Lake City which is less than 50%. You'd probably see some bias there, and possibly in some of the backwater small towns as well (plus, Utah County is just boring as hell unless you're going there to hike). Outside of that though it's really not an issue in terms of hiring. Mormons are ridiculously good at networking, particularly through BYU, so there will be some positions that are taken by "a nice young man in my son-in-law's ward" before they announce an open position, but in terms of getting a job you apply for I really haven't seen much that makes me think there's any widespread bias going on.

Culturally, it's about the same--if you live in Utah County, it's possible that you'll meet families who won't socialize with you or your family. Mostly this is just because their social lives revolve around the church, but some of it's definitely exclusionary. There's a lot less of that than there used to be though, and in Salt Lake County and particularly Salt Lake City nobody really cares. The worst I ever got was when my family lived in the suburbs (Sandy to be specific) we'd occasionally get invited to church or offered Books of Mormon by our friends, but none of them were hyper-aggressive about it. Downtown Salt Lake especially is quite non-Mormon--my parents have more gay neighbors than Mormon neighbors. You'll probably be visited by missionaries at least once or twice; most of them are pretty chill and will leave if you politely tell them you're not interested. Some of them are even interesting to talk to on occasion if you're into that sort of thing. A few will be jerks, but they're offset by the really reactionary non- and ex-Mormons who never shut up about how much they hate Mormons (read the Salt Lake Tribune's online comments and you'll see what I mean). Mostly though people are surprisingly friendly here, regardless of religion.

Really, the most obnoxious part of being non-Mormon in Utah is the legislature. They're around 80% LDS (compared to probably 60% of the Utah population as a whole) and many of them tend to vote lockstep with their religious beliefs--hence the idiotic liquor laws. Things are lightening up though; the size and political savvy of Salt Lake's gay community has gotten some of them to back off that issue, and now that the really anti-alcohol head of the Utah Senate is retiring, we're hoping some of the dumber booze laws will go by the wayside. The legislative session is always kind of a pain though.

All in all, I love it here, even as a non-Mormon. The annoyance of the legislature and the occasional religious-inspired weirdness is more than offset by how beautiful it can be and how much there is to do if you know where to look. I would highly recommend finding a place in downtown Salt Lake, at least for your first residence; it's a world away from living in the burbs."

As far as Judaism specifically I don't know much, but you could check out the Wagner Center, right next to the U's campus: http://www.slcjcc.org/
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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Pip42 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:13 pm

Funny thing is thats what you sent me (except for Judaism specific stuff). Lol

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby nickb285 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:22 pm

That's right, I knew I PM'd it to someone but didn't look who it was.

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 1693 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:54 pm

Thank you so much for the great answer. That was extremely thorough. I really love the prospect of living in the Mtn West but haven't been to Utah yet. Having lived in Miami & DC there was never a lack of diversity. It's reassuring to hear that I won't be a total outcast being non-Mormon. Ideally I would like to stay in SLC if I do end up at Utah. I will certainly PM if I have any more questions! Thanks!

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby steelythews » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:04 pm

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 1693 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:19 pm

Tuition seems fairly high for out of state students. Fortunately, the school says you can obtain residency by your spring semester of your second year. That's a bonus.

http://www.law.utah.edu/admissions/tuition/

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Pip42 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:24 pm

1693 wrote:Tuition seems fairly high for out of state students. Fortunately, the school says you can obtain residency by your spring semester of your second year. That's a bonus.

http://www.law.utah.edu/admissions/tuition/


Or you can take classes in the summer and get it before Fall of 2L. Plus summer tuition is charged at the in-state rate.

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Pretty sweet if you ask me.

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby coldshoulder » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:25 pm

They also use tuition waivers for out of state students as scholarships.

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 1693 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:45 pm

coldshoulder wrote:They also use tuition waivers for out of state students as scholarships.


Pip- great find. Seems like it would be wise to do that!

How exactly does a tuition waiver work? I haven't heard of this before. Thanks!

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Pip42 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:51 pm

A tuition waiver just allows you to pay in-state tuition as an out of state student. Some schools will offer them as a de facto scholarship.

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 1693 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:23 am

Pip42 wrote:A tuition waiver just allows you to pay in-state tuition as an out of state student. Some schools will offer them as a de facto scholarship.


Thanks for the clarification. It does indeed sound just like a scholarship - wouldn't mind getting one of those!

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Pip42 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:43 am

Hey - Did everyone include an "evaluation" with their application? Utah was the only school I applied to that recommended (but not required) one. I am starting to worry it will hurt me. I just couldnt bring myself to harass my professors to fill one out. It was enough of a pain to coach them through the LSAC process.

Feel free to talk me off the ledge here (or tell me I'm screwed). Lol

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby nickb285 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:31 am

Up off the ledge. I had two LORs, no evaluations.

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Pip42 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:48 am

nickb285 wrote:Up off the ledge. I had two LORs, no evaluations.


Good deal. Deep breaths! Ha.

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 1693 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:36 pm

nickb285 wrote:Up off the ledge. I had two LORs, no evaluations.


Seconded. It wasn't required and as you said it would have been a real PITA to get it done in all honesty.

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby havanese11 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:04 am

Accepted earlier this week. Anyone know if its possible to get in state the first year if your spouse gets a job in state? I know some states like ohio do that just not sure if utah does

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Pip42 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:16 am

havanese11 wrote:Accepted earlier this week. Anyone know if its possible to get in state the first year if your spouse gets a job in state? I know some states like ohio do that just not sure if utah does


I'm not positive but I don't think so.

Could you post/PM your numbers?

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby elcee1987 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:05 am

Any applicants URMs here? I'm NA and am submitting my app in the morning. I lived in SLC for 2 years attending Westminster College and LOVED the city, so I'd be thrilled to return. I am Mormon, actually, but not from Utah, so SLC felt much more "normal" than places like Provo (where I also lived, attending BYU for a brief moment, and where I will not be applying to law school) or the backwater towns. Mormon or not, I'll tell ya, the tiny little small towns of Utah are filled with nutters. But SLC is an awesome place, tons to do indoors and out, strong economic growth, good place to raise a family, and just nice people. There are some ghetto areas (west valley city, magna), but anywhere in the actual city boundary of salt lake is usually going to be awesome.

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bloynoys » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:40 am

Accepted via phone call last week! 162/3.44 math major. I have a weird question though. I called the associate Dean back after I missed his original call, and he was not able to take it as he is off in New York. However, I get an email from him a few days later with my last name spelled wrong (Peach instead of Patch ha). Which I just brush off thinking I probably just said my name quickly in my message and he wasn't able to crosscheck his database to find my name. However, when he called back it was the same thing, but also he had what school I am graduating from wrong as well. He went on for about 5 minutes telling me how close Utah's law school academically was to Colorado College (I attend Colorado State), which has me kind of worried about the law school in general. Like in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter but thought it was pretty interesting and funny! Is that something I should email him and update him or just leave it and laugh about it?

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Pip42 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:26 pm

bloynoys wrote:Accepted via phone call last week! 162/3.44 math major. I have a weird question though. I called the associate Dean back after I missed his original call, and he was not able to take it as he is off in New York. However, I get an email from him a few days later with my last name spelled wrong (Peach instead of Patch ha). Which I just brush off thinking I probably just said my name quickly in my message and he wasn't able to crosscheck his database to find my name. However, when he called back it was the same thing, but also he had what school I am graduating from wrong as well. He went on for about 5 minutes telling me how close Utah's law school academically was to Colorado College (I attend Colorado State), which has me kind of worried about the law school in general. Like in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter but thought it was pretty interesting and funny! Is that something I should email him and update him or just leave it and laugh about it?


Personally I would not worry about that much. They are juggling a bunch of student info right now. Now, if you get your packet and your name is wrong... then I would worry. :lol:

Here's to hoping that I get a call with my name said wrong soon too!

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bloynoys » Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:19 am

Pip42 wrote:
Personally I would not worry about that much. They are juggling a bunch of student info right now. Now, if you get your packet and your name is wrong... then I would worry. :lol:

Here's to hoping that I get a call with my name said wrong soon too!


Yeah that's where I am at. Really not a big deal at all, but thought it was funny, it really is amazing it doesn't happen more with how much info they have to deal with daily!

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Pip42 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:25 pm

Status checker updated today from early December... Not sure what it means but something is happening behind the electronic veil.

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Re: University of Utah c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby turdfurg » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:43 pm

Pip42 wrote:Status checker updated today from early December... Not sure what it means but something is happening behind the electronic veil.


Status Check also changed for me, although when I log it in looks the same (compared screen shots.) Hopefully the wave is starting!

edit: I submitted my app around November 28th or so...




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