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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby JayJones78 » Fri May 03, 2013 11:43 am

sadreversesplitter wrote:Hi all! Those that were admitted off the WL have a deposit deadline of May 10 for the first $500. The second deposit being due, I assume, by May 31 with the rest of the admitted students for $1,000.



thanks!! I assume more WL movement will happen around May 11th or so then

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby gatorgirl2012 » Fri May 03, 2013 11:50 am

JayJones78 wrote:
sadreversesplitter wrote:Hi all! Those that were admitted off the WL have a deposit deadline of May 10 for the first $500. The second deposit being due, I assume, by May 31 with the rest of the admitted students for $1,000.



thanks!! I assume more WL movement will happen around May 11th or so then


Here's hoping :oops:

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby yupyup » Fri May 03, 2013 12:48 pm

JayJones78 wrote:
yupyup wrote:No scholarship even after negotiating. Will be withdrawing. :-/


is this off the WL?


No, not off the WL.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby WanderingPondering » Fri May 03, 2013 12:54 pm

I got a mickey mouse scholarship offer after getting off the waitlist. Will be withdrawing.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby TheNextAmendment » Fri May 03, 2013 1:02 pm

TheMostDangerousLG wrote:Or I could accept one of the several much larger offers I received at higher-ranked schools. But thanks for the advice.

Okay then do that. "lul wut" to a scholarship offer (at a LS where only 60% get any tuition reduction) is incredibly immature. I agree that 250k is an inflated number for LS, but most DC schools are pretty inflated. Additionally- GULC, GW, and American are all notorious for not matching peer-scholarships and being tough on tuition reduction. It's the way of DC. Who would've thought going to a school 3 blocks from the white house would be so expensive!?! :lol: Good luck all. Glad to see some much needed WL movement.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby phimu03 » Fri May 03, 2013 1:04 pm

For those still waiting on a response...I just got an email stating that they just finished all pending decisions and that we should hear by this afternoon or Monday morning. I'm sure waitlist will be hearing soon then.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby fLaw School Bound » Fri May 03, 2013 2:12 pm

Dream Weave wrote:
Darby58 wrote:
fLaw School Bound wrote:
TheMostDangerousLG wrote:Just got a merit aid offer of $30K total. Took all of my willpower not to immediately reply "lol wut". I'm pretty sure that amount is less than they spend on postal shipping for a single acceptance letter.

Needless to say, withdrawing. Good luck, all.


I know this will offend some, but it just kills me when people get indignant about not receiving a MERIT scholarship to their liking. Your application didn't MERIT a bigger scholarship. Maybe you should have worked harder to get a better GPA, maybe your LSAT was low, either way you have been offered a scholarship that covers 20% of your tuition, if you want more money go to a lower ranked school that will be happy to have you. The entitlement of 20-somethings today just drives me crazy.

I too, got the 10k a year scholarship and am damn happy to have received it. I wish it had been more, but obviously there are candidates more worthy and they deserve the money they're getting.


What is this? Calling people entitled because they complain that a school like GW wants them to pay $250,000 is wrong and not fair. That is a ridiculously inflated number and not at all consistant with the financial value of a degree from the school.

The naiveté and the moral high handedness of 20 or 30 or 40-somethings today just drives me crazy.


I was trying to be nicer, but it is crazy think someone would
Be grateful to have to pay 200k for a coin flips chance at a job.

The rank is actually irrelevant in his argument, because GW is known to give way less than any of it's peer schools or even higher ranked schoolss because you get to work in the "fantastic DC"


I will give you that rank shouldn't be a focal point of my argument. In my frustration, I misstated my opinion. Rank is overvalued.
That said, George Washington does not owe you a cheap, risk-free education and more than BMW owes you a cheap car. It's a private institution and if you don't think it's worth the cost you can simply not go.

I don't have any issue with folks negotiating for better scholarships, but if you're denied an increase accept it. It's theirs to offer and yours to accept or reject. They don't owe you more and you don't owe them acceptance.

As far as the Cost of Attendance, the only cost for which GW should be held responsible is the cost of tuition and fees. The fact that apartments in DC are so expensive is hardly the Universities fault. Should you weigh the higher cost of living in your decision making, absolutely, but acting like the school should give you a better scholarship because of it is asinine.

For those claiming that GW is cheap when it comes to financing, exactly where are you getting that info? I'll give you that state schools are more generous, but then they have state funding. The tuition at GW is comparable to all of it's non-state peer schools, and one of very few to have need-based grants in addition to merit scholarships.

As for whether merit scholarships are really scholarships or just discounted tuition, it's merely semantics. There is an aid budget. Admissions staff can only give out so much money in scholarships (or discounts if you want to call them that). They choose to give that money to those applicants they deem to have the most merit, those that would be the most valuable additions to the student body.

If you think law school as a whole is too expensive and too risky, I can't argue with you. It is very expensive and awfully risky. I, for one, think it's worth the risk for an opportunity that wouldn't be there otherwise. If you don't think so, then you should look into other industries. If enough people do so, the schools will have to shrink their class sizes and lower their tuition.

For now it's expensive. And risky. And still I am grateful for the opportunity.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby simplycatalina » Fri May 03, 2013 2:14 pm

LSLovely173 wrote:
cbarlow1016 wrote:anyone applying for the public service scholarship?? 100 words is so short, i'm having a hard time saying everything i want to...


Yep, I'm interested in that PSS as well! I haven't started on it yet, but I agree, 100 words seems like it's going to be a challenge. At that point I feel like I'm sending him a tweet :lol:


Do you think like 150 words is pushing it?? I have been condensing like crazy...

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby petehrub » Fri May 03, 2013 2:51 pm

phimu03 wrote:For those still waiting on a response...I just got an email stating that they just finished all pending decisions and that we should hear by this afternoon or Monday morning. I'm sure waitlist will be hearing soon then.



Were you on the WL, or still waiting to hear back for a regular decision? I applied a few weeks before the admission deadline, but took the Feb. LSAT so my file wasn't complete until March 6th. Still haven't heard anything, except for one date change on the status check (hoping no news is good news).

For everyone that heard back, did you receive an email first or did you see on the applicant status check page? I have been checking that thing every half hour for the past month haha.

I was already admitted to AUWCL, so I'm definitely staying in DC, but would be nice to get into and go to GW law.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby spree » Fri May 03, 2013 3:11 pm

They told me through email that I got accepted, wasn't on WL.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby ookoshi » Fri May 03, 2013 3:13 pm

fLaw School Bound wrote:That said, George Washington does not owe you a cheap, risk-free education and more than BMW owes you a cheap car. It's a private institution and if you don't think it's worth the cost you can simply not go.


Sure, but what's wrong with people venting their frustration that some school is giving them a particularly shitty deal compared to the rest of their cycle? Does their post on TLS somehow force the schools to give up more money? Isn't it potentially possible that their posts might clue others in that certain schools tend to give people particularly shitty deals, and therefore encourage them to apple elsewhere instead/as well, which is exactly what you suggest should be the outcome for schools who do that.

In order for schools to be punished for being a bad deal, people applying have to know that they are bad. What's wrong with getting the word out?

I don't have any issue with folks negotiating for better scholarships, but if you're denied an increase accept it. It's theirs to offer and yours to accept or reject. They don't owe you more and you don't owe them acceptance.


This forum exists for various reasons, for supporting each other as we go through the app process and law school, to the exchange of information about what we can expect when we apply. People bitching about getting a shitty deal is more signal than noise compared to the average TLS post. Hell, this post is more noise than his original post was.

As far as the Cost of Attendance, the only cost for which GW should be held responsible is the cost of tuition and fees. The fact that apartments in DC are so expensive is hardly the Universities fault. Should you weigh the higher cost of living in your decision making, absolutely, but acting like the school should give you a better scholarship because of it is asinine.


Sure, but the school doesn't exist in a vacuum. Whether the higher COA is their fault or not, they should take it into account if they don't want people bitching that their school is a bad deal. They aren't entitled to not having it be taken into account.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby LSLovely173 » Fri May 03, 2013 4:17 pm

cbarlow1016 wrote:
LSLovely173 wrote:
cbarlow1016 wrote:anyone applying for the public service scholarship?? 100 words is so short, i'm having a hard time saying everything i want to...


Yep, I'm interested in that PSS as well! I haven't started on it yet, but I agree, 100 words seems like it's going to be a challenge. At that point I feel like I'm sending him a tweet :lol:


Do you think like 150 words is pushing it?? I have been condensing like crazy...



I'd have to say so =/

110 or 115 maybe not so much, but 150 is 50% more than he asked for, so it would be noticeably longer than others and I'm not sure how strict the limit is. Honestly, I'd say just do as much as you can with the 100. You don't want to put yourself at a disadvantage for something so small. I'm sure they know the word count is hugely restrictive and they probably aren't expecting much.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby dawnrose » Fri May 03, 2013 4:19 pm

I just got in off of the waitlist on Monday - super excited. However, I just got promoted at work recently, and my plan is to work an additional year before starting law school. Does anyone know if GW offers deferrals, and if so, if they offer them to people on the waitlist?

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby simplycatalina » Fri May 03, 2013 5:18 pm

LSLovely173 wrote:
cbarlow1016 wrote:
LSLovely173 wrote:
cbarlow1016 wrote:anyone applying for the public service scholarship?? 100 words is so short, i'm having a hard time saying everything i want to...


Yep, I'm interested in that PSS as well! I haven't started on it yet, but I agree, 100 words seems like it's going to be a challenge. At that point I feel like I'm sending him a tweet :lol:


Do you think like 150 words is pushing it?? I have been condensing like crazy...



I'd have to say so =/

110 or 115 maybe not so much, but 150 is 50% more than he asked for, so it would be noticeably longer than others and I'm not sure how strict the limit is. Honestly, I'd say just do as much as you can with the 100. You don't want to put yourself at a disadvantage for something so small. I'm sure they know the word count is hugely restrictive and they probably aren't expecting much.


Mmk. I got it down to 120, I think I'll just stick with that. Close enough.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby jing87 » Fri May 03, 2013 11:23 pm

I got that 10k per year scholarship today after negotiation too. At first I thought that 30k is per year, then I realized it is the total amount.
Haven't sent my withdrawal letter yet but it is no way I will pay 220k for GW. It is s good school at a great location, but just not worth the money .
I may change my mind if I hit the jackpot this weekend.

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Postby TheNextAmendment » Sat May 04, 2013 8:36 am

jing87 wrote:I got that 10k per year scholarship today after negotiation too. At first I thought that 30k is per year, then I realized it is the total amount.
Haven't sent my withdrawal letter yet but it is no way I will pay 220k for GW. It is s good school at a great location, but just not worth the money .
I may change my mind if I hit the jackpot this weekend.


You may want to wait to hear from financial aid.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby jing87 » Sat May 04, 2013 5:19 pm

TheNextAmendment wrote:
jing87 wrote:I got that 10k per year scholarship today after negotiation too. At first I thought that 30k is per year, then I realized it is the total amount.
Haven't sent my withdrawal letter yet but it is no way I will pay 220k for GW. It is s good school at a great location, but just not worth the money .
I may change my mind if I hit the jackpot this weekend.


You may want to wait to hear from financial aid.


That is financial aid's response to me..unless you mean need-base?

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby simplycatalina » Sat May 04, 2013 5:44 pm

jing87 wrote:
TheNextAmendment wrote:
jing87 wrote:I got that 10k per year scholarship today after negotiation too. At first I thought that 30k is per year, then I realized it is the total amount.
Haven't sent my withdrawal letter yet but it is no way I will pay 220k for GW. It is s good school at a great location, but just not worth the money .
I may change my mind if I hit the jackpot this weekend.


You may want to wait to hear from financial aid.


That is financial aid's response to me..unless you mean need-base?


yeah i think that's what he meant. they do give out need-based grants.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby totalgleek » Sun May 05, 2013 12:22 pm

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby TheNextAmendment » Sun May 05, 2013 1:33 pm

Different in that GW is one of a very select group of law schools that give need based grants. The federal government believes that, unlike undergrad, law school is a privilege and therefore students are not entitled to federal grants. Most schools' financial aid is simply letting you know if you qualified for grad plus or etc. Other schools, like GW, give grants too in their fin aid package, the funds of which normally come from alumni donations.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby LSLovely173 » Sun May 05, 2013 7:55 pm

TheNextAmendment wrote:Different in that GW is one of a very select group of law schools that give need based grants. The federal government believes that, unlike undergrad, law school is a privilege and therefore students are not entitled to federal grants. Most schools' financial aid is simply letting you know if you qualified for grad plus or etc. Other schools, like GW, give grants too in their fin aid package, the funds of which normally come from alumni donations.



Yep, but to add to this, the drawback is that if you do receive a need-based grant you have to borrow the maximum stafford loan amount ($20,500) each year.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby SteelPenguin » Sun May 05, 2013 8:20 pm

LSLovely173 wrote:
TheNextAmendment wrote:Different in that GW is one of a very select group of law schools that give need based grants. The federal government believes that, unlike undergrad, law school is a privilege and therefore students are not entitled to federal grants. Most schools' financial aid is simply letting you know if you qualified for grad plus or etc. Other schools, like GW, give grants too in their fin aid package, the funds of which normally come from alumni donations.



Yep, but to add to this, the drawback is that if you do receive a need-based grant you have to borrow the maximum stafford loan amount ($20,500) each year.


Is that really an issue if you have a scholly below 50k/yr or so?

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby TheNextAmendment » Sun May 05, 2013 10:54 pm

SteelPenguin wrote:
LSLovely173 wrote:
TheNextAmendment wrote:Different in that GW is one of a very select group of law schools that give need based grants. The federal government believes that, unlike undergrad, law school is a privilege and therefore students are not entitled to federal grants. Most schools' financial aid is simply letting you know if you qualified for grad plus or etc. Other schools, like GW, give grants too in their fin aid package, the funds of which normally come from alumni donations.



Yep, but to add to this, the drawback is that if you do receive a need-based grant you have to borrow the maximum stafford loan amount ($20,500) each year.


Is that really an issue if you have a scholly below 50k/yr or so?


Plus stipend haha. Its sad, but true.

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Re: George Washington c/o 2016

Postby radar714 » Mon May 06, 2013 3:17 pm

withdrew today. 48k back in the pot for y'all, GL!

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Postby gatorgirl2012 » Mon May 06, 2013 3:25 pm

radar714 wrote:withdrew today. 48k back in the pot for y'all, GL!


Thanks! I'm really hoping for movement after this upcoming deadline!!




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