UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bananasplit19 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:47 am

countmein wrote:
bananasplit19 wrote:Scholarship info came via snail mail accept letter over the weekend, $20K per year, renewable.


you think you'll accept?

If I get shut out of T14, it becomes a legit consideration. I'd also be hoping to negotiate a stronger financial package, though. I have strong CA ties, and I've been doing a fair amount of research: UCI certainly isn't the death sentence that many here on TLS love to insist on.

As espoused ad nauseum, the main issues raised are lack of alumni base and an oversaturated LA market, both of which are very real concerns. However, I do believe that UCI is still in a honeymoon period (still breaking in new whiteboards, just produced its first graduating class) in which the dean and faculty are still extremely zealous in using every connection they may have to get good placements for the students, oversaturated market and all. After all, they have as much a stake in the school succeeding as the students. I believe the initial clerkship numbers from the first graduating class are evidence of this. Now, the more jaded amongst us would grumble that as class sizes grow and financial aid packages shrink, the passion of the faculty will shrink as well, leaving Irvine to plummet to the depths of the TT masses. This may be the case, but by that point, whenever it may be, one would hope that the foundations of a stable alumni base would be starting to take root (in the LA area, at the very least). In fact, graduates of the Class of 2016 should be instrumental in being that stable alumni base. And what better market than the second-largest metro area in the country? A big risk for a prospective 0L? Yes, but every other school, even the upper T14s, presents an objectively unacceptable risk given the tuition money involved, and yet here we all are, queuing up like lambs to the slaughter.

But that's further down the road for UCI. For the short term, meanwhile, I believe that the personalized attention from the faculty and efforts to help navigate the job market are significant in offsetting the lack of alumni base, at least enough to make Irvine a viable option. Not a fantastic, oh-my-god option, but a viable one. And that's all one can ask for if you're not knocking on HYS' doors.

In conclusion, UCI may not be ranked as a top-20 school in 2014 when fully accredited, or even further on down the road. But for the Class of 2016, I believe it still may represent a more intriguing (chalk it up to my entrepreneurial leanings) and potentially safer pick (chalk it up to a motivated and connected faculty and dean) than many of the more established schools that currently sit in the 14-25 range. As always, for me it will depend on the $.

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Mdenis1 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:38 am

ruskapoo wrote:In with 40,000$/year renewable with a 2.0!!!


CONGRATS! We have similar numbers. I'm currently away from home and can't check my snail mail :( but hope I have one similar! Congrats again!

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Mdenis1 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:42 am

anteater1 wrote:Got my scholly info today. $15k/year renewable.


Your lawschoolnumbers profile says fortyfive thousands for UC irvine... is it a typo or did they upgrade it?

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Observant_Poster » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:41 pm

Mdenis1 wrote:
anteater1 wrote:Got my scholly info today. $15k/year renewable.


Your lawschoolnumbers profile says fortyfive thousands for UC irvine... is it a typo or did they upgrade it?


Not the op but 45k over 3 years. From reading around, it seems like it is pretty tough to negotiate money with Irvine. I received 10k, was hoping for 15k.

Anyone know if they give more scholarship money if you do very well your first year? Yadda yadda yadda dont go into law school expecting to do well yadda yadda, but still good to know if they award merit based scholarships based on how you do after 1L and 2L.

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ggnore » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:48 pm

I received 20K renewable with a 2.0. Any word on what good academic standing entails besides a 2.0?

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby zman » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:14 pm

Observant_Poster wrote:
Mdenis1 wrote:
anteater1 wrote:Got my scholly info today. $15k/year renewable.


Your lawschoolnumbers profile says fortyfive thousands for UC irvine... is it a typo or did they upgrade it?


Not the op but 45k over 3 years. From reading around, it seems like it is pretty tough to negotiate money with Irvine. I received 10k, was hoping for 15k.

Anyone know if they give more scholarship money if you do very well your first year? Yadda yadda yadda dont go into law school expecting to do well yadda yadda, but still good to know if they award merit based scholarships based on how you do after 1L and 2L.


yeah you can probably earn about 5k for some sort of service or high GPA after your first year.

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby anteater1 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:35 am

Observant_Poster wrote:
Mdenis1 wrote:
anteater1 wrote:Got my scholly info today. $15k/year renewable.


Your lawschoolnumbers profile says fortyfive thousands for UC irvine... is it a typo or did they upgrade it?


Not the op but 45k over 3 years.


TCR, thanks.

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bettercallsaul91 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:31 pm

$20,000/yr, 2.0 renewable plus in-state tuition makes my decision between UCI and UMN a bit tougher ... 3.76, 162, non-urm.

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Postby countmein » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:22 pm

bettercallsaul91 wrote:$20,000/yr, 2.0 renewable plus in-state tuition makes my decision between UCI and UMN a bit tougher ... 3.76, 162, non-urm.


UMN?

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bettercallsaul91 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:50 am

countmein wrote:
bettercallsaul91 wrote:$20,000/yr, 2.0 renewable plus in-state tuition makes my decision between UCI and UMN a bit tougher ... 3.76, 162, non-urm.


UMN?


Minnesota. $16k/yr over there, 50-80% cheaper living expenses, strong clinics. Not too sure about the OC ... heard it's like its own red state. I love UCI's faculty and dedication to public service as a school though ... tough!

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby teiswei » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:33 am

bettercallsaul91 wrote:Minnesota. $16k/yr over there, 50-80% cheaper living expenses, strong clinics. Not too sure about the OC ... heard it's like its own red state. I love UCI's faculty and dedication to public service as a school though ... tough!


Easy choice, bro

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bettercallsaul91 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:46 pm

teiswei wrote:
Easy choice, bro


:D


:lol:

Yeah, I flirted with the idea of seasons ... but now veering back. The grass isn't always greener. Reality is I can barely handle SF's 53-degree rainy "winter" and I hate humidity and mosquitoes in the summer.

Going to school in southern California is great. No matter how much exams get you down, there's always the beautiful weather that makes it impossible to feel too depressed or exhausted. And all of my friends who moved out of state for UG cry on Facebook about how much they miss CA burritos at least once a year.

I just want some reassurance that UCI will debut decently-ranked and the c/o 2016 will be just as fine as c/o 2012. At least we'll be getting some phone calls soon over the coming months to address these kinds of concerns.

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby lrslayer » Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:26 pm

bettercallsaul91 wrote:
teiswei wrote:
Easy choice, bro


:D


:lol:

Yeah, I flirted with the idea of seasons ... but now veering back. The grass isn't always greener. Reality is I can barely handle SF's 53-degree rainy "winter" and I hate humidity and mosquitoes in the summer.

Going to school in southern California is great. No matter how much exams get you down, there's always the beautiful weather that makes it impossible to feel too depressed or exhausted. And all of my friends who moved out of state for UG cry on Facebook about how much they miss CA burritos at least once a year.

I just want some reassurance that UCI will debut decently-ranked and the c/o 2016 will be just as fine as c/o 2012. At least we'll be getting some phone calls soon over the coming months to address these kinds of concerns.

You won't get any reassurance; UCI is just a leap of faith. I turned down USC for UCI but I have full tuition paid by US Gov so debt is not something I had to consider. For me it had more to do with having a kid and finding Irvine a better place for family, I am right so far. But tbh, I would not have gone here full price. As far as assurances, when I was debating USC v. UCI, I talked with the USC dean of admissions on the phone at length and within the conversation she said that she had no doubts that UCI would rank top 30. Take that for what it is cause she doesn't know any better then any of us (well actually she may know better then us). Also, I shy away from advising any future student as far as UCI ranking goes because tbh, it won't affect c/o 2012-2015. I hope to have employment secured before rankings ever come out, its c/o 2016 onward that will be affected by UCIs inevitable good or bad ranking. So far I am happy with UCI. The professors are great by me (but I am not sure what makes a professor great), the students in my section are mostly relaxed, and I have two good interviews lined up for summer work already (they are the only two I applied to, PM if you are interested where). Lastly, don't choose UCI based on weather, thats not the smartest thing imo because 1) you don't get outside enough 1L year to enjoy it and 2) it's been f'n cold here lately despite SoCal's reputation of sunny warm weather all the time. If anyone has any questions feel free to PM me.

tl;dr-
1) I am not a UCI cheerleader by any means but for some this school may be a good option.
2) I would shy away from any UC without substantial $$$.
3) UCI will likely rank decently but there is no way for anyone to know with certainty. C/O 2016 will be the first class truly affected by rankings so try not to be too easily charmed by Cs/O 2012-2015.
4) Many people hate UCI simply for its audacity to exist in a saturated market (SoCal, USA) but the quality of education is gonna be on par with the other schools you get into.
5) Don't let weather decide where you go to lawl school.

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby teiswei » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:25 pm

lrslayer wrote:5) Don't let weather decide where you go to lawl school.

I somewhat disagree... Location should be one of the primary factors in deciding where to attend law school and weather is definitely part of that. I for one know I want to live and practice in SoCal and choosing a school in the midwest, such as Minnesota, would really be a disservice to my job prospects. Sure, you can look at the employment data and think you have a better chance at a job with a JD from UM but it's going to be in the midwest.

If you can, you should attend a school that will give you a chance to practice where you want to settle down. I have no desire to gamble with my future happiness and attend a school in a location I will be miserable and will likely only give me an opportunity to stay there to practice.

Not questioning your opinion, but high 40s and low 50s is hardly cold... The 30 degree difference is more significant than you think. I live in Chicago and as my family is wearing short sleeves and sunglasses on the west coast, I am layering and won't see the sun until late May.

Again, this is just my personal feelings... To each their own.

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby lrslayer » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:05 pm

teiswei wrote:
lrslayer wrote:5) Don't let weather decide where you go to lawl school.

I somewhat disagree... Location should be one of the primary factors in deciding where to attend law school and weather is definitely part of that. I for one know I want to live and practice in SoCal and choosing a school in the midwest, such as Minnesota, would really be a disservice to my job prospects. Sure, you can look at the employment data and think you have a better chance at a job with a JD from UM but it's going to be in the midwest.

If you can, you should attend a school that will give you a chance to practice where you want to settle down. I have no desire to gamble with my future happiness and attend a school in a location I will be miserable and will likely only give me an opportunity to stay there to practice.

Not questioning your opinion, but high 40s and low 50s is hardly cold... The 30 degree difference is more significant than you think. I live in Chicago and as my family is wearing short sleeves and sunglasses on the west coast, I am layering and won't see the sun until late May.

Again, this is just my personal feelings... To each their own.

I totally agree with you wrt going to school where you want to work (unless you can go to a school that places nationally obv). I was referring to weather in general not being the best reason to go to school in Irvine (or anywhere for that matter).

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby WaitingandHopeful » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:05 pm

In with 30k/year

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby gitguy » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:48 pm

WaitingandHopeful wrote:In with 30k/year


When do you hear from them?

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Postby WaitingandHopeful » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:51 pm

gitguy wrote:
WaitingandHopeful wrote:In with 30k/year


When do you hear from them?


Acceptance came in an email a few weeks ago. $ info was by snail mail this week.

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby countmein » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:01 pm

Congrats to UCI on beating most established law schools in CA on the July 2012 bar exam (first time takers). Way to go!

http://abovethelaw.com/2013/01/californ ... en-thread/

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby countmein » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:02 pm

and you can Count Me In as part of the UCI c/o 2016.

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Mdenis1 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:08 pm

Just heard about my scholly info! 50k a year with the 2.0 stip! (I'm out of state) 168 3.92

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby teiswei » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:03 am

Checking in... Middle 50% with WE and grad degree

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby andres » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:59 pm

How did you guys hear back regarding financial aid? Email?

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bananasplit19 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:02 pm

andres wrote:How did you guys hear back regarding financial aid? Email?

Initial acceptance by e-mail, and a snail mail letter with a financial aid number following shortly after.

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Re: UC Irvine c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ruskapoo » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:14 pm

Got a call from Dean Chemerinsky today! :)




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