Notre Dame Class of 2016 Applicants Forum

[wannabelawstudent]

I was really surprised to receive the package as I was expecting it around Tuesday or Wednesday. I'm located in Atlanta by the way.

Has anyone else with a decision made on 1/24 not received their letter/packet

[arden311]

My decision was made 1/30. I just received a waitlist letter.

I was surprised considering my numbers were well below medians. I have really strong and unique softs though. So now the long and arduous waitlist process begins.

Numbers?

Rather not post my numbers on public forum. Best of luck to everyone!

[StLNE]

WL about a week and a half ago. 168/3.26 with 4 years of WE. No "Why ND?" essay.

[wannabelawstudent]

I called today and they're gonna resend my letter. I noticed they said letter...and not packet .

edit: 2 minutes later I got an e-mail with a scanned version. I got dinged. Good luck everyone.

[SouthernSoul]

WLed. What I expected since I didn't write a Why ND essay.

So is it pretty common that if you don't write a Why ND essay, your chances are a little bit lower?

Also, might it help to try to send one later/in the form of a LOCI if you're waitlisted?

[gatorgirl2012]

WLed. What I expected since I didn't write a Why ND essay.

So is it pretty common that if you don't write a Why ND essay, your chances are a little bit lower?

Also, might it help to try to send one later/in the form of a LOCI if you're waitlisted?

I wrote what I felt was a solid Why ND essay and got WLed. However, my numbers are way low so that's a bigger factor. I'd say if you can take the time, write optional essays. It's just good manners. The little bit of extra effort separates you at least from the few who don't take the time.

If you didn't send a Why ND essay, you should really address your interest in ND in your LOCI. The WL is about numbers, but they also want to give offers to the people that seem most committed to attending their school.

[law chihuahua]

Anecdotal evidence, but I agree with what gatorgirl2012 said. I did not write a Why ND essay, but I think my personal statement strongly alluded to things that would have been mentioned in one had I done so, and I was accepted recently. Really excited about the school!
I don't know about ND but in the last cycle I sent in a Why X School-ish LOCI and got in off the waitlist w/ money at a similarly ranked school. I totally don't think it would hurt, especially if you have legit reasons.
Hope that helps, and good luck!

[gatorgirl2012]

Anecdotal evidence, but I agree with what gatorgirl2012 said. I did not write a Why ND essay, but I think my personal statement strongly alluded to things that would have been mentioned in one had I done so, and I was accepted recently. Really excited about the school!
I don't know about ND but in the last cycle I sent in a Why X School-ish LOCI and got in off the waitlist w/ money at a similarly ranked school. I totally don't think it would hurt, especially if you have legit reasons.
Hope that helps, and good luck!

People that have received money off the WL give me hope lol do you mind me asking when you were taken off the list and if you did anything else in addition to submitting a LOCI. I've been WLed at my top two

PM me if anything!!

[DoveBodyWash]

Hey everyone, I'm not a ND applicant, but I thought this might interest those of you interested in Chicago BigLaw

I'm basically going through the websites of 60 firms in Chicago (both based in and branch offices) that pay six-figure starting salaries and counting how many post-recession associates* there are in each of them from WUSTL, ND, UIUC, and Northwestern.

I'm at the halfway point right now (31 of 60 counted) and here's a screenshot of my results (originally posted in WUSTL thread)

Hope it helps

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qf1tb1chximpy ... alfway.JPG


*For the purposes of this analysis, any associate that got their J.D. in 2008 or after is considered a "post-Recession associate"

[Grazzhoppa]

thanks for those numbers cusenation. very interesting.

Anyways. Got a "decision made" update today 2 days after my second complete. numbers are 3.38/166. I did write a why ND essay. The quick turnaround makes me think reject. what do y'all think?

[ndirish2010]

Tons of people here don't want Chicago (especially when compared to UIUC). Still, the numbers are interesting. Not shocking that we have the most people at Jones Day, the managing partner is a Double Domer.

[MKC]

WLed. What I expected since I didn't write a Why ND essay.

So is it pretty common that if you don't write a Why ND essay, your chances are a little bit lower?

Also, might it help to try to send one later/in the form of a LOCI if you're waitlisted?

I did. I was waitlisted with a 166/3.25, so I called the admissions office and asked if there was anything I could do to shore up my application. They specifically mentioned the optional essay as one of the reasons for my being on the waitlist. They also mentioned a lack of volunteer work/community service. I tried to compensate for this within the optional essay.

Also, ND trolled the fuck out of me today with an e-mail that basically said that I'm still on the waitlist. I almost had a heart attack. It was titled "Waitlist update" but had no new information.

[gatorgirl2012]

WLed. What I expected since I didn't write a Why ND essay.

So is it pretty common that if you don't write a Why ND essay, your chances are a little bit lower?

Also, might it help to try to send one later/in the form of a LOCI if you're waitlisted?

I did. I was waitlisted with a 166/3.25, so I called the admissions office and asked if there was anything I could do to shore up my application. They specifically mentioned the optional essay as one of the reasons for my being on the waitlist. They also mentioned a lack of volunteer work/community service. I tried to compensate for this within the optional essay.

Also, ND trolled the fuck out of me today with an e-mail that basically said that I'm still on the waitlist. I almost had a heart attack. It was titled "Waitlist update" but had no new information.

Whoa they actually gave you like real advice on your application? I'm pretty sure mine is numbers but this kinda makes me wanna call in and speak with them.

[Big Dog]

They also mentioned a lack of volunteer work/community service.

All of the Catholic colleges are BIG on service. ND even states it clearly on the first page of its viewbook:

"...students and faculty...dedicate their professional and personal lives to serve the good of all the human family."

And the best way to demonstrate your commitment to future service is through prior service on your resume.

[Grazzhoppa]

In today with 15k per year. 3.38/166 and a why ND essay.

[ALgooner]

Just realized that my status checker updated to Decision Made on 2/6. Didn't write a Why ND so I'm nervous about getting waitlisted.

edit: Accepted with a 75k scholarship!

[Grazzhoppa]

What are your numbers?

[cheymao]

In today via snail mail, decision rendered on 2/6. Did the Why ND essay..

[ALgooner]

What are your numbers?

167/3.8 (in my profile).

[Grazzhoppa]

Nice. Congrats.

[romanticegotist]

Tons of people here don't want Chicago (especially when compared to UIUC). Still, the numbers are interesting. Not shocking that we have the most people at Jones Day, the managing partner is a Double Domer.

Chicago seems like the most logical destination; are there other places that make more sense for an ND grad to look to?

[ironbmike]

Got in via snail mail w/ 20K/year scholly. Pretty excited!

[bobloblawstudent]

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[wh3931110]

Tons of people here don't want Chicago (especially when compared to UIUC). Still, the numbers are interesting. Not shocking that we have the most people at Jones Day, the managing partner is a Double Domer.

Chicago seems like the most logical destination; are there other places that make more sense for an ND grad to look to?

New York and California are two pretty popular destinations, tons of people from CA. But honestly, people come from everywhere and end up going everywhere... Legal market is what it is but the ND name travels well. FWIW I'm a current 3L, transferred in and have a job, oh and I love notre dame!

[mittz]

Got the "decision made" update today. Oh the cruelty of the wait to receive the letter.