Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby romanticegotist » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:22 pm

historicrep wrote:I absolutely agree... a full tuition ride would have had me signing a lease. $84,000 is great, need to see if they'll be beaten by Indiana or Washington now.


Well considering that Indiana only offered me 20k/year I wouldn't assume they'll open up their wallets. Good thing Minn stayed put in the rankings or I'd assume these new scholarships were the result of some kind of panic

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby redmessengerbag » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:24 pm

Just submitted my app last night on a very late decision to apply, we'll see what happens, I am a long shot to begin with. :)

Does Minnesota taking into account of softs like strong work experience much?

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby clyde13 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:32 pm

167 here and I only got 72k and struck out with negotiations. I do not understand their reasoning here haha I would put down my deposit immediately if they gave me the full ride that they're apparently giving to 166s now. Not trying to sound bitter -- congratulations to all of you who have gotten full rides! Just so confused.

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby wannabelawstudent » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:34 pm

Ehh...I can't be too mad, I would've just taken their full ride to WUSTL and been like "MATCH THIS PLEASE"

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby clyde13 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:55 pm

BitterSplitter wrote:
clyde13 wrote:167 here and I only got 72k and struck out with negotiations. I do not understand their reasoning here haha I would put down my deposit immediately if they gave me the full ride that they're apparently giving to 166s now. Not trying to sound bitter -- congratulations to all of you who have gotten full rides! Just so confused.



sorry to hear that, I saw your profile, what is your top option currently out of the choices you listed on there


Currently trying to decide between Minnesota, WashU and ND. Three admitted students' weekends in a row starting next weekend will hopefully help me figure it out a little more!
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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby kckool7 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:57 pm

BitterSplitter wrote:
wannabelawstudent wrote:Ehh...I can't be too mad, I would've just taken their full ride to WUSTL and been like "MATCH THIS PLEASE"


Is WUSTL really markedly better than UMN or is it mainly a preferential difference? I didn't apply to WUSTL but the general sentiment on TLS seems to be that it is somehow a better option if there is equal scholly/COA for the two. Why is that

There is a sentiment (that is likely supported by numbers, but I don't really want to get into it) that a WUSTL degree is significantly more portable than one from Minny.

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby andy261 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:09 pm

kckool7 wrote:
BitterSplitter wrote:
wannabelawstudent wrote:Ehh...I can't be too mad, I would've just taken their full ride to WUSTL and been like "MATCH THIS PLEASE"


Is WUSTL really markedly better than UMN or is it mainly a preferential difference? I didn't apply to WUSTL but the general sentiment on TLS seems to be that it is somehow a better option if there is equal scholly/COA for the two. Why is that

There is a sentiment (that is likely supported by numbers, but I don't really want to get into it) that a WUSTL degree is significantly more portable than one from Minny.

Not sure how much is due to self-selection, but last I checked 60+% of UMN's placement was in Minnesota whereas only 20+% of WUSTL's was in Missouri.

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Postby BitterSplitter » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:21 pm

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby clyde13 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:29 pm

BitterSplitter wrote:
clyde13 wrote:
BitterSplitter wrote:
clyde13 wrote:167 here and I only got 72k and struck out with negotiations. I do not understand their reasoning here haha I would put down my deposit immediately if they gave me the full ride that they're apparently giving to 166s now. Not trying to sound bitter -- congratulations to all of you who have gotten full rides! Just so confused.



sorry to hear that, I saw your profile, what is your top option currently out of the choices you listed on there


Currently trying to decide between Minnesota, WashU and ND. Three admitted students' weekends in a row starting next weekend will hopefully help me figure it out a little more!


Nice, best of luck. Just curious, are you from Cali? You applied to a few local schools around me..also, just a suggestion but try to speak with one of the admin directors in person at UMN if possible and say that its your top choice but you heard about the 84k/full tuition for 166s and that you think you merit the full tuition scholarship with your stats (which you do) and maybe it'll work better than email negotiations. Try to do it off to the side as well, bc it seems (based on TLS posts) that discretion, in regard to admissions and scholarship offers, is looked upon highly by UMN. If they are hesitant to let out more money to people that they think, for whatever reason, wouldn't attend then going to ASW will help if thats the case. Hope to see you at minn!


Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely try to talk to them about it at ASW, maybe that will yield better results than email negotiations. And no, I'm actually from Chicago haha. Looking at it now though, I guess I did apply for a lot of California schools. This neverending midwestern winter might have played a role in that...

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby sublime » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:39 pm

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby TripTrip » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:19 pm

BitterSplitter wrote:say that its your top choice but you heard about the 84k/full tuition for 166s

I'd be wary of saying that outright.

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby wannabelawstudent » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:21 pm

Yeah I don't see how saying "I heard about this offer from an unconfirmed website" will do very much for you.

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby dan k » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:23 pm

andy261 wrote:
kckool7 wrote:
BitterSplitter wrote:
wannabelawstudent wrote:Ehh...I can't be too mad, I would've just taken their full ride to WUSTL and been like "MATCH THIS PLEASE"


Is WUSTL really markedly better than UMN or is it mainly a preferential difference? I didn't apply to WUSTL but the general sentiment on TLS seems to be that it is somehow a better option if there is equal scholly/COA for the two. Why is that

There is a sentiment (that is likely supported by numbers, but I don't really want to get into it) that a WUSTL degree is significantly more portable than one from Minny.

Not sure how much is due to self-selection, but last I checked 60+% of UMN's placement was in Minnesota whereas only 20+% of WUSTL's was in Missouri.


I was curious about self selection MN placement as well. obviously UMinn is regional, but between speaking with the career services people and anecdotes from current students, it seems many ppl end up really liking it in Minneapolis. Hoping that's the case if I end up attending

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby Nova » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:38 pm

I wonder if the Adcomms read this thread. If they dont, they should.

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby wannabelawstudent » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:43 pm

Nova wrote:I wonder if the Adcomms read this thread. If they dont, they should.


"First these kids are mad we're only accepting 167s+ then they get mad that we try to make it up to the 166s"

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby sublime » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:59 pm

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby wannabelawstudent » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:13 pm

eh nvm
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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby jbagelboy » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:23 pm

sublime wrote:Sorting the LSN applicants by scholarship amount really shows how nonsensical they have been.

http://minnesota.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants


actually, it seems to be, the later you apply the more money you get.

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Re: Minnesota c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby TripTrip » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:42 pm

sublime wrote:Sorting the LSN applicants by scholarship amount really shows how nonsensical they have been.

http://minnesota.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants

It seems pretty sensible to me. Almost all of the full-rides are over both medians (if we assume the GPA median is going to drop ~0.1) and it goes down reasonably from there, with traditional splitters scoring big.

Everything $120,000 on up is a full tuition scholarship. (Resident: $120,054. Non-resident: $143,157.)




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