Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby anela00 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:35 pm

shakespeare wrote:Sorry, i was talking about the required part. if you're talking about the optional part, i didn't fill it in. It's on my resume, the required resume-ish/activities thing AND pretty obvious in my essay (if not already mentioned by my recommenders). My personal take on it is that adding it is redundant and not necessary. It makes the whole application less tight. Plus, it may make it seem like that's ALL you've done if you write the same thing too many times.


Hmm, I guess I interpreted the "post-school activities" section as optional only because not all applicants took time off after undergrad. It says:

"If it has been more than three months since you attended an educational institution, please describe what you have been doing in the interval."

That seems to me like they require it for all of us who aren't K-JD. But I agree -- it seems weird to repeat things!

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby shakespeare » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:37 pm

Oh, in that case, whoops! I actually didn't answer it...but they sent me a "complete" email...should i be worried?

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby callmemaybe84 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:06 pm

shakespeare wrote:Oh, in that case, whoops! I actually didn't answer it...but they sent me a "complete" email...should i be worried?


If you're complete, you're complete. No need worrying, nothing you can do now-and if you covered all your bases you're fine.

Just be like me, a first week applicant who is worried that he's a reject since he hasn't heard already. That's the right way to stress about these types of things....

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby Elston Gunn » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:07 pm

shakespeare wrote:Oh, in that case, whoops! I actually didn't answer it...but they sent me a "complete" email...should i be worried?


Yes. Email them, say you made an oversight, and submit the form. It's redundant and stupid but required.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby shakespeare » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:09 pm

Should I call them and ask?

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby Elston Gunn » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:15 pm

Sure. But sorry if that last post was a little too blunt. I doubt anyone will care, especially if you haven't gone to faculty review yet, but it is definitely required (at least according to Asha). It's basically like making a typo on the app, I'd think.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby shakespeare » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:16 pm

Can you show me the link where Asha says it's required? Now I'm getting worried...

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby sinfiery » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:21 pm

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby vzapana » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:26 pm

shakespeare wrote:Can you show me the link where Asha says it's required? Now I'm getting worried...


"5. You must answer Question 5a-c (honors, extracurriculars, employment during school), even if you are including a resume. Please. We won't complete your application without these answers. Many of you spend a lot of time (based on the questions we get in the office) wondering whether to answer these in bullet format, or in a little spreadsheet, or some other manner. Really, it just needs to be readable. Bullets are fine. If there is some honor or activity that isn't self-explanatory or on which you feel you need to elaborate further, a short narrative is OK."

http://blogs.law.yale.edu/blogs/admissi ... tters.aspx

err on the side of being redundant in this case.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby shakespeare » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:38 pm

Thanks. But isn't this not the post-school activities? This is the Activities section, and it is required (LSAC won't send it without this).

Sorry, i actually forget what the two sections are called...but one is the required Activities section (it says required) and the other is a Post-School section (it says optional)...I completed the required section, but only that one.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby shakespeare » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:39 pm

Sorry for the blast of comments, guys...now i'm just worried! Wishing it were a Monday, so I could just call them and get it straightened out...:(

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby Ti Malice » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:55 pm

anela00 wrote:Okay guys, I'm freaking out about the "post-school activities" section. I see there was some discussion of this on page 7. So is the consensus that they don't want another essay, but rather a short paragraph or a bullet point list? How do you avoid making this section completely redundant from your resume?


See my post from before. I first included a couple of general statements about work and periods of extended travel and then just referred the reader to my résumé for details. That's it. Since I'm studying for finals right now at YLS (or pretending to), it seems not to have caused problems.

Brevity and anti-redundancy are not bad principles to follow here. Adcomms are busy people, and they don't want to read a fluffy restatement of something they are going to read elsewhere. On the other hand, if you want to include a little more, that's fine. Just keep it succinct.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby anela00 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:06 pm

Ti Malice wrote:
anela00 wrote:Okay guys, I'm freaking out about the "post-school activities" section. I see there was some discussion of this on page 7. So is the consensus that they don't want another essay, but rather a short paragraph or a bullet point list? How do you avoid making this section completely redundant from your resume?


See my post from before. I first included a couple of general statements about work and periods of extended travel and then just referred the reader to my résumé for details. That's it. Since I'm studying for finals right now at YLS (or pretending to), it seems not to have caused problems.

Brevity and anti-redundancy are not bad principles to follow here. Adcomms are busy people, and they don't want to read a fluffy restatement of something they are going to read elsewhere. On the other hand, if you want to include a little more, that's fine. Just keep it succinct.


Thanks so much! I will go that route as well then.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby ssanonymous » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:05 am

vman21 wrote:Almost done with my 250, but every day that passes I freak out that my chances are going down...I somehow just can't stop believing that earlier = better, even though Asha has repeatedly refuted that claim.

Feel free to internet-slap some sense into me.

Also: I have 3 possible recommendations, 2 from UG, 1 from the my Peace Corps director (been out of UG for 4 years, 3 of which were in the peace corps), but the more I read Asha's blog and listen to her on webinars it seems that she really discourages the "extra" recs unless they can REALLY speak to your academic abilities...so I am thinking about omitting it.

Anybody else have thoughts on additional recs?


Did Asha discourage more than two recs? I thought she just stressed having two strong academic recommendations. If I were in your position, I'd probably submit all three. Your Peace Corps rec can speak to what you've done for the last three years, and your academic recs can go on about your brilliant you are. I think having recs that say the same things is ultimately what hurts applicants, but you have a clear reason for submitting the third rec. It's different. Buuuuut I'm not in YLS, so I don't know.

Also, don't rush unless you REALLY need to find out ASAP for other reasons.

P.S. The FB group is growing - https://www.facebook.com/groups/2481621 ... 9/?fref=ts Isn't it weird that they didn't bother updating the twitter feed?

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby Ti Malice » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:31 pm

vman21 wrote:Almost done with my 250, but every day that passes I freak out that my chances are going down...I somehow just can't stop believing that earlier = better, even though Asha has repeatedly refuted that claim.

Feel free to internet-slap some sense into me.

Also: I have 3 possible recommendations, 2 from UG, 1 from the my Peace Corps director (been out of UG for 4 years, 3 of which were in the peace corps), but the more I read Asha's blog and listen to her on webinars it seems that she really discourages the "extra" recs unless they can REALLY speak to your academic abilities...so I am thinking about omitting it.

Anybody else have thoughts on additional recs?


Your chances are not going down. Relax. Submit when you feel your app represents your best effort.

Also, Asha is chiefly warning against substituting a non-academic LOR for one of the two required academic LORs. I would submit the third LOR as long as it's going to meaningfully add to the reader's idea of who you are. Will the recommender provide specific illustrations of your character, work ethic, empathy, resourcefulness, etc.? If so, the letter is a positive addition, even if it will not be accorded the same weight as an academic LOR. If your director is just going to offer boilerplate praise -- merely saying how wonderful you are instead of relating specific episodes that show your positive traits -- then I wouldn't bother.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby advicewelcome » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:43 pm

Received the call last night. I'm shocked and ecstatic! Good luck everyone!

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby jcan91 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:47 pm

advicewelcome wrote:Received the call last night. I'm shocked and ecstatic! Good luck everyone!


That's fantastic! Congrats!

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby bernaldiaz » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:48 pm

advicewelcome wrote:Received the call last night. I'm shocked and ecstatic! Good luck everyone!


Congrats. How did you receive your decisions from Columbia and Chicago? Didn't know they had contacted RD applicants yet.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby michlaw » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:57 pm

Seconded...all in favor :?: :?: :?:

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby advicewelcome » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:57 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:
advicewelcome wrote:Received the call last night. I'm shocked and ecstatic! Good luck everyone!


Congrats. How did you receive your decisions from Columbia and Chicago? Didn't know they had contacted RD applicants yet.


I haven't received decisions from Columbia or Chicago. Does my profile say that I have? Sorry, I'm not very adept with the forum.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby domino » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:59 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:
advicewelcome wrote:Received the call last night. I'm shocked and ecstatic! Good luck everyone!


Congrats. How did you receive your decisions from Columbia and Chicago? Didn't know they had contacted RD applicants yet.


maybe you are asking ti malice? i think he's c/o 2015

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby bernaldiaz » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:08 pm

advicewelcome wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
advicewelcome wrote:Received the call last night. I'm shocked and ecstatic! Good luck everyone!


Congrats. How did you receive your decisions from Columbia and Chicago? Didn't know they had contacted RD applicants yet.


I haven't received decisions from Columbia or Chicago. Does my profile say that I have? Sorry, I'm not very adept with the forum.


Oops yeah I'm sorry I clicked ti malice's profile by mistake. I thought maybe Columbia had started giving out scholarship offers.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby wtrc » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:28 pm

advicewelcome wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
advicewelcome wrote:Received the call last night. I'm shocked and ecstatic! Good luck everyone!


Congrats. How did you receive your decisions from Columbia and Chicago? Didn't know they had contacted RD applicants yet.


I haven't received decisions from Columbia or Chicago. Does my profile say that I have? Sorry, I'm not very adept with the forum.


Congrats! Mind posting your stats?

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby hopeful16 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:41 pm

advicewelcome wrote:Received the call last night. I'm shocked and ecstatic! Good luck everyone!

Congrats!! When did you submit and go complete?




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