Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby callmemaybe84 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:48 pm

ManOfTheMinute wrote:
BalanceCare wrote:Dinged! Pretty happy not to have to consider Y in light of my SO's deep hatred for New Haven (tho I'm agnostic). Should be much easier to choose between S and H now.

Good luck to everyone


lol @ choosing between HLS and SLS when SLS is clearly the answer


Clearly Stanford is the answer.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby wert3813 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:49 pm

az21833 wrote:im leaning HLS over SLS right now FWIW. although penn might be in lead


Riiiiight. ;)

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby edgeofthenight » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:49 pm

carboncopyx wrote:
Yukos wrote:They're gonna get you drunk a lot more than Stanford did, but it should still be an easy decision.

Wait, no way. I'm so excited about this. It's like they know the way to my heart.


Unlimited free wine and beer starting around dinner time. I know nothing about the quality of such things, but it tasted like quality stuff to my college student self.

Just keeping myself psyched about going to HLS...
(I want to end up in New York or DC, so SLS wasn't even on my radar. I've dealt with upstate New York winters for 4 years, Cambridge is going to be a picnic.)

LOL @ Californians thinking that the 50s is freezing half to death...


It was 50 degrees here last week and I wore a dress. Without tights. It was basically summer.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby wert3813 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:50 pm

az21833 wrote:so yukos wert MOTM and all my other brotherin, you're all leaning SLS over HLS right now? anybody picking HLS over SLS?


aww thanks man. I actually don't have a choice at the moment. I'm only gracing one of the big three unlike you heavy lifters.

Full Disclosure: I visited SLS and loved it. Problem: I am not accepted at SLS, therefore I am going to try to convince all of you to go to HLS.
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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby callmemaybe84 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:51 pm

(I want to end up in New York or DC, so SLS wasn't even on my radar. I've dealt with upstate New York winters for 4 years, Cambridge is going to be a picnic.)

You do know a fifth of SLS's class goes to DC and a fifth goes to NY. I mean, just saying, if you want those markets, you don't have to go to Cambridge.

Man, the butchery has been pretty extreme.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:52 pm

callmemaybe84 wrote:(I want to end up in New York or DC, so SLS wasn't even on my radar. I've dealt with upstate New York winters for 4 years, Cambridge is going to be a picnic.)

You do know a fifth of SLS's class goes to DC and a fifth goes to NY. I mean, just saying, if you want those markets, you don't have to go to Cambridge.

Man, the butchery has been pretty extreme.


But they'll go to SLS and after experiencing that weather not WANT to go to NY or DC... so OP has a point

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby callmemaybe84 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:53 pm

edgeofthenight wrote:
Just keeping myself psyched about going to HLS...
(I want to end up in New York or DC, so SLS wasn't even on my radar. I've dealt with upstate New York winters for 4 years, Cambridge is going to be a picnic.)



Sorry, i messed up your quote. Damn coding.

Maybe, MOTM, maybe.
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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby az21833 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:54 pm

SLS grads are MUCH more sought after in NYC DC than HLS. there are SOOO many fewer of them to start off with, let alone trying to move across country. u r like a unicorn

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby edgeofthenight » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:56 pm

callmemaybe84 wrote:(I want to end up in New York or DC, so SLS wasn't even on my radar. I've dealt with upstate New York winters for 4 years, Cambridge is going to be a picnic.)

You do know a fifth of SLS's class goes to DC and a fifth goes to NY. I mean, just saying, if you want those markets, you don't have to go to Cambridge.

Man, the butchery has been pretty extreme.


True, but I also didn't want to leave the east coast (and my entire life) to get there. Cambridge'll work just fine for me.

SLS grads are MUCH more sought after in NYC DC than HLS. there are SOOO many fewer of them to start off with, let alone trying to move across country. u r like a unicorn


Harvard places very well at my dream job and in other offices in my specific field within those cities.
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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby Yukos » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:58 pm

Assuming the weather won't kill you, I think the HLS/SLS debate really comes down to size. I wanted a class small enough that I would get to know almost everyone anyway; current Harvard students saying it could be really hard to get into my favorite clinic and much more difficult to make law review at HLS was just icing on the cake.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby kertz » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:58 pm

Maybe they're sending some rejections by post?

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby polareagle » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:00 pm

az21833 wrote:SLS grads are MUCH more sought after in NYC DC than HLS. there are SOOO many fewer of them to start off with, let alone trying to move across country. u r like a unicorn


I've heard this argument enough times to probably start believing it (though I've never once seen data, it makes sense on its face), but the comparatively small number of Stanford grads going to DC is also a double-edged sword. Getting your first position is almost undoubtedly going to be easier, but you will be relying on your professional network for the rest of your life, and Harvard's DC or NY network is, undeniably, much larger.

Now, I know the counterargument is that Stanford's network is stronger for whatever that's worth, but sometimes size does matter. Case in point, going back to the '60s, Democratic administrations in DC have been chock full of HLS grads (not just the current, most obvious example).

If your goal is BigLaw for life in DC or NY and you've got no other considerations, I think Stanford makes a ton of sense. If you're looking at transitioning into BigGov later on, I think there's a compelling argument to be made for Harvard.
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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby callmemaybe84 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:00 pm

kertz wrote:Maybe they're sending some rejections by post?


Yours will say "Mr. Kertz--he dead" in Asha's handwriting?

(only kidding, of course)

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby az21833 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:03 pm

polareagle wrote:
az21833 wrote:SLS grads are MUCH more sought after in NYC DC than HLS. there are SOOO many fewer of them to start off with, let alone trying to move across country. u r like a unicorn


I've heard this argument enough times to probably start believing it (though I've never once seen data, it makes sense on its face), but the comparatively small number of Stanford grads going to DC is also a double-edged sword. Getting your first position is almost undoubtedly going to be easier, but you will be relying on your professional network for the rest of your life, and Harvard's DC or NY network is, undeniably, much larger.

Now, I know the counterargument is that Stanford's network is stronger for whatever that's worth, but sometimes size does matter. Case in point, going back to the '60s, Democratic administrations in DC have been chock full of HLS grads (not just the current, most obvious example).

If your goal is BigLaw for life in DC or NY and you've got no other considerations, I think Stanford makes a ton of sense. If you're looking at transitioning into BigGov later on, I think there's a compelling argument to be made for Harvard.


spot on. for the network, HLS hands down. SLS will place u much better though

looks like yls done for tonight?
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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby callmemaybe84 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:03 pm

polareagle wrote:
az21833 wrote:SLS grads are MUCH more sought after in NYC DC than HLS. there are SOOO many fewer of them to start off with, let alone trying to move across country. u r like a unicorn


I've heard this argument enough times to probably start believing it (though I've never once seen data, it makes sense on its face), but the comparatively small number of Stanford grads going to DC is also a double-edged sword. Getting your first position is almost undoubtedly going to be easier, but you will be relying on your professional network for the rest of your life, and Harvard's DC or NY network is, undeniably, much larger.

Now, I know the counterargument is that Stanford's network is stronger for whatever that's worth, but sometimes size does matter. Case in point, going back to the '60s, Democratic administrations in DC have been chock full of HLS grads (not just the current, most obvious example).

If your goal is BigLaw for life in DC or NY and you've got no other considerations, I think Stanford makes a ton of sense. If you're looking at transitioning into BigGov later on, I think there's a compelling argument to be made for Harvard.


I think there's enough compelling arguments to go to the school one likes better. I'm only saying that wanting a career in that stuff shouldn't rule out stanford, they are probably equal options (or so close to equal it doesn't matter) in DC/NY markets.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby jselson » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:05 pm

az21833 wrote:looks like yls done for tonight?


They only WANT you to think that!

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby wert3813 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:05 pm

I'll bet someone a beer this weekend that they aren't done for tonight.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby polareagle » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:07 pm

callmemaybe84 wrote:
polareagle wrote:
az21833 wrote:SLS grads are MUCH more sought after in NYC DC than HLS. there are SOOO many fewer of them to start off with, let alone trying to move across country. u r like a unicorn


I've heard this argument enough times to probably start believing it (though I've never once seen data, it makes sense on its face), but the comparatively small number of Stanford grads going to DC is also a double-edged sword. Getting your first position is almost undoubtedly going to be easier, but you will be relying on your professional network for the rest of your life, and Harvard's DC or NY network is, undeniably, much larger.

Now, I know the counterargument is that Stanford's network is stronger for whatever that's worth, but sometimes size does matter. Case in point, going back to the '60s, Democratic administrations in DC have been chock full of HLS grads (not just the current, most obvious example).

If your goal is BigLaw for life in DC or NY and you've got no other considerations, I think Stanford makes a ton of sense. If you're looking at transitioning into BigGov later on, I think there's a compelling argument to be made for Harvard.


I think there's enough compelling arguments to go to the school one likes better. I'm only saying that wanting a career in that stuff shouldn't rule out stanford, they are probably equal options (or so close to equal it doesn't matter) in DC/NY markets.


Totally credited. The honest-to-god truth of it is that they're both great schools, and if you play your cards right and don't get incredibly unlucky, you'll be able to get what you consider a desirable outcome out of either one. I also totally get the spend a few years in paradise argument (though, having gone to undergrad in small town northern New England, Cambridge isn't looking all that bad to me, besides, I got a sunburn at Stanford this weekend...)

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby jselson » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:08 pm

wert3813 wrote:I'll bet someone a beer this weekend that they aren't done for tonight.


No way, there's still 18 rejections to go on LSN.

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby edgeofthenight » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:10 pm

callmemaybe84 wrote:
polareagle wrote:
az21833 wrote:SLS grads are MUCH more sought after in NYC DC than HLS. there are SOOO many fewer of them to start off with, let alone trying to move across country. u r like a unicorn


I've heard this argument enough times to probably start believing it (though I've never once seen data, it makes sense on its face), but the comparatively small number of Stanford grads going to DC is also a double-edged sword. Getting your first position is almost undoubtedly going to be easier, but you will be relying on your professional network for the rest of your life, and Harvard's DC or NY network is, undeniably, much larger.

Now, I know the counterargument is that Stanford's network is stronger for whatever that's worth, but sometimes size does matter. Case in point, going back to the '60s, Democratic administrations in DC have been chock full of HLS grads (not just the current, most obvious example).

If your goal is BigLaw for life in DC or NY and you've got no other considerations, I think Stanford makes a ton of sense. If you're looking at transitioning into BigGov later on, I think there's a compelling argument to be made for Harvard.


I think there's enough compelling arguments to go to the school one likes better. I'm only saying that wanting a career in that stuff shouldn't rule out stanford, they are probably equal options (or so close to equal it doesn't matter) in DC/NY markets.


I should have been clearer - it wasn't a "I want to work in NY/DC, so no Stanford," it was, "I'm from the NY/DC area and I'm intending to stay here, so no Stanford." Thesis/Yale delirium isn't helping my clarity tonight.


I want to think that we're done, but... it's Yale, so...

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby wert3813 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:11 pm

jselson wrote:
wert3813 wrote:I'll bet someone a beer this weekend that they aren't done for tonight.


No way, there's still 18 rejections to go on LSN.


Also apparently all the booze is free....

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby sabanist » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:13 pm

kertz wrote:Maybe they're sending some rejections by post?

I await my owl...

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:17 pm

sabanist wrote:
kertz wrote:Maybe they're sending some rejections by post?

I await my owl...


They're gonna sent you a screamer

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby edgeofthenight » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:18 pm

ManOfTheMinute wrote:
sabanist wrote:
kertz wrote:Maybe they're sending some rejections by post?

I await my owl...


They're gonna sent you a screamer


Howler.

I am expecting the same.

YOU HAVE NO WORK EXPERIENCE AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THAT 250 BUT IT WAS AWFUL. WHY WASN'T YOUR GPA HIGHER FRESHMAN YEAR? I THINK YOU COULD HAVE TRIED HARDER TO CURE CHILDHOOD CANCER

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Re: Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby wert3813 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:21 pm

edgeofthenight wrote:
ManOfTheMinute wrote:
sabanist wrote:
kertz wrote:Maybe they're sending some rejections by post?

I await my owl...


They're gonna sent you a screamer


Howler.

I am expecting the same.

YOU HAVE NO WORK EXPERIENCE AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THAT 250 BUT IT WAS AWFUL. WHY WASN'T YOUR GPA HIGHER FRESHMAN YEAR? I THINK YOU COULD HAVE TRIED HARDER TO CURE CHILDHOOD CANCER



Burned MOTM burned.




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