Wormfather wrote:I think that URMs often think that they get accepted to non HYS schools because of their softs or their "perfect" applications when in fact its mostly a numbers game. Maybe adcoms will take that stuff into effect but if you get into Columbia as a URM with a 160/3.8 it isnt probably because they loved your application. Rather they needed someone with your demographics and you were the best still available. You may be below their 25% but what are they going to do, take the 152/3.6 applicant?
Why do I say this? Because it is really hard to put together a perfect application. One that really turns heads, shows academic prowess but doenst come off as a cocky know it all. Or to tell a touching story without looking like you're hamming it up.
Yet at Yale, this is the floor.
For me, with my numbers, as a AA you would think I would be a lock. Also my application was really good, except I had a C&F issue from when I was younger. That I had to email YLS after I submitted my application to amend something about the incident probably made me look more than forthcoming (it was an honest mistake though). Still Yale has no need to extend anyone the benefit of the doubt, be it a C&F issue, a recommendation where the professor miss-worded something, a misplaced comma, or even a B- in a class that they think is critical for a budding young lawyer.
There's just so many of us and so few spots, one misstep is all it really takes. I'm sure Asha is a nice enough person, but the process probably demands a sense of ruthlessness that's hard for us to stomach. In the end, I'm sure that every applicant admitted and waitlisted is a candidate that they are absolutely sure about.
From my brief meeting with you at an asw, my opinion is that you will thrive at H or S. We well may meet up there (if I can figure out what to do). And if you think they are somehow better at Y in selecting than HS you are wrong. They are simply different.