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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby Inconceivable! » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:30 pm

TUICE wrote:
lili_yums wrote:

Same. Have scholarship decisions been coming via email or snail mail?


My understanding is that they come predominantly through email.




my prediction is that they will send out the next batch of scholarships on Friday 4/12....to give us ample time to make a decision :wink:

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby CR2012 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:31 pm

I'm "decision rendered" as well and just got trolled HARD by a Syracuse email.

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby Tremendous » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:50 pm

ls23 wrote:
thehighlands wrote:
I love BC's campus, atmosphere, and reputation, but one concern I do have, as a few others have noted, is there decline in rank and employment stats. Although I like that they dont seem to rely on school funded positions. But do any of you all know if there was a particular change that caused the drop in employment numbers/clerkships this yr. Also, as others mentioned, I would love for them to decrease class size, do any of you know if they are leaning this way?


My exact thoughts! Would really love some answers.


I wouldn't say the decline in employment stats is really unique to BC. Employment numbers everywhere are down.

2012
Employment score - % of school-funded: 65%
Large Firm score: 25.4%
500+ Firm score: 15.38%
Federal Clerkship rate: 2.3%
Large Firm/Clerkships combined: 27.7%
School-Funded: 4.6%

2011
Employment score - % of school-funded: 68.4%
Large Firm score: 26%
500+ Firm score: 15.44%
Federal Clerkship rate: 3.9%
Large Firm/Clerkships combined: 29.9%
School-Funded: 10.5%

These two sets of numbers are almost identical except the clerkship rate is a little lower and the school-funded is a lot lower. I wouldn't say that BC is "on the decline" at all. You just have to acknowledge that it's a tough-ass market and if you go to BC, you have about a 2/3rd shot of getting a job as a lawyer. If you look at the 2010 numbers you will see a big decrease from then, but that was a really abnormal year where BC was placing like 34% in NLJ 250 firms...likely not happening again in this economy.

As far as rank - don't consider it. Here's a good read on that - --LinkRemoved--

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby CR2012 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:09 pm

In!

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby lhanvt13 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:11 pm

CR2012 wrote:In!

Numbers? Just now?

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby ls23 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:43 pm

Tremendous wrote:
ls23 wrote:
thehighlands wrote:
I love BC's campus, atmosphere, and reputation, but one concern I do have, as a few others have noted, is there decline in rank and employment stats. Although I like that they dont seem to rely on school funded positions. But do any of you all know if there was a particular change that caused the drop in employment numbers/clerkships this yr. Also, as others mentioned, I would love for them to decrease class size, do any of you know if they are leaning this way?


My exact thoughts! Would really love some answers.


I wouldn't say the decline in employment stats is really unique to BC. Employment numbers everywhere are down.

2012
Employment score - % of school-funded: 65%
Large Firm score: 25.4%
500+ Firm score: 15.38%
Federal Clerkship rate: 2.3%
Large Firm/Clerkships combined: 27.7%
School-Funded: 4.6%

2011
Employment score - % of school-funded: 68.4%
Large Firm score: 26%
500+ Firm score: 15.44%
Federal Clerkship rate: 3.9%
Large Firm/Clerkships combined: 29.9%
School-Funded: 10.5%

These two sets of numbers are almost identical except the clerkship rate is a little lower and the school-funded is a lot lower. I wouldn't say that BC is "on the decline" at all. You just have to acknowledge that it's a tough-ass market and if you go to BC, you have about a 2/3rd shot of getting a job as a lawyer. If you look at the 2010 numbers you will see a big decrease from then, but that was a really abnormal year where BC was placing like 34% in NLJ 250 firms...likely not happening again in this economy.

As far as rank - don't consider it. Here's a good read on that - --LinkRemoved--


I understand the economy is what it is, but I'm comparing stats to BU and increases in some other peer schools, and that's what's concerning. As for USNWR, I understand the short-comings of the rankings and the flaws in the methodology. That being said, it still holds some weight in so far as people still treat them as official rankings. Continued downward trends do affect, in the long term, the quality of students who matriculate and outside perceptions.

BC is still one of my two top choices, but I just want to know if they are doing to fix some of the issues that are causing their drop so that they can stay inside top 30 as well as compete with BU's increases.

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby Greyhound42 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:50 pm

Any predictions on when the waitlist will begin moving? Do they ever begin adding from there before the seat deposit deadline?

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby Rheastoria » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:59 pm

CR2012 wrote:In!


Congrats!!!

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby CR2012 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:07 pm

Rheastoria wrote:
CR2012 wrote:In!


Congrats!!!


Thanks! I really hope they will offer me some money. I can legitimately see myself at BC.

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby romanticegotist » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:37 pm

$28k per year! not too shabby.

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby TA923 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:40 pm

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby ks2499 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:40 pm

romanticegotist wrote:$28k per year! not too shabby.


Congrats! Just had my offer upped by 2K per year after negotiating. They beat BU but also did not match WUSTL.

I'm hating my GPA so much these days...

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby aladdin16 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:40 pm

Sent in a scholarship request via email to the admissions office last Tuesday. Got a reply today plus $12k per year. Good luck to everyone still waiting to hear from them, don't be afraid to ask for money! I was admitted in mid Jan.

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby Inconceivable! » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:43 pm

romanticegotist wrote:$28k per year! not too shabby.



when were you admitted?

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby rufus&miles » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:16 pm

[/quote]Congrats! Just had my offer upped by 2K per year after negotiating. They beat BU but also did not match WUSTL.

I'm hating my GPA so much these days...[/quote]

aladdin16 wrote:Sent in a scholarship request via email to the admissions office last Tuesday. Got a reply today plus $12k per year. Good luck to everyone still waiting to hear from them, don't be afraid to ask for money! I was admitted in mid Jan.


Wow this makes me think they just hate me... sent my negotiation 3 weeks ago and still haven't heard anything!

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby b123 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:20 pm

BC doesn't offer travel reimbursement, do they?

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby Rheastoria » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:38 pm

Scholly info today! 20k a year, basic stips (good academic standing, above 2.0 gpa).

Accepted a week and a half ago, so I hope everyone gets their info soon!

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby BlazersTime » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:14 pm

b123 wrote:BC doesn't offer travel reimbursement, do they?


Not this year

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby thehighlands » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:19 pm

ls23 wrote:
Tremendous wrote:
ls23 wrote:
thehighlands wrote:
I love BC's campus, atmosphere, and reputation, but one concern I do have, as a few others have noted, is there decline in rank and employment stats. Although I like that they dont seem to rely on school funded positions. But do any of you all know if there was a particular change that caused the drop in employment numbers/clerkships this yr. Also, as others mentioned, I would love for them to decrease class size, do any of you know if they are leaning this way?


My exact thoughts! Would really love some answers.


I wouldn't say the decline in employment stats is really unique to BC. Employment numbers everywhere are down.

2012
Employment score - % of school-funded: 65%
Large Firm score: 25.4%
500+ Firm score: 15.38%
Federal Clerkship rate: 2.3%
Large Firm/Clerkships combined: 27.7%
School-Funded: 4.6%

2011
Employment score - % of school-funded: 68.4%
Large Firm score: 26%
500+ Firm score: 15.44%
Federal Clerkship rate: 3.9%
Large Firm/Clerkships combined: 29.9%
School-Funded: 10.5%

These two sets of numbers are almost identical except the clerkship rate is a little lower and the school-funded is a lot lower. I wouldn't say that BC is "on the decline" at all. You just have to acknowledge that it's a tough-ass market and if you go to BC, you have about a 2/3rd shot of getting a job as a lawyer. If you look at the 2010 numbers you will see a big decrease from then, but that was a really abnormal year where BC was placing like 34% in NLJ 250 firms...likely not happening again in this economy.

As far as rank - don't consider it. Here's a good read on that - --LinkRemoved--


I understand the economy is what it is, but I'm comparing stats to BU and increases in some other peer schools, and that's what's concerning. As for USNWR, I understand the short-comings of the rankings and the flaws in the methodology. That being said, it still holds some weight in so far as people still treat them as official rankings. Continued downward trends do affect, in the long term, the quality of students who matriculate and outside perceptions.

BC is still one of my two top choices, but I just want to know if they are doing to fix some of the issues that are causing their drop so that they can stay inside top 30 as well as compete with BU's increases.


Yea, I think the numbers just look a little more startling before you really deconstruct them and then it does not appear as drastic. Nonetheless, I was hoping for, if not improvement, just not a drop, but I suppose I don't get to command the market haha. I did look a bit into BC's recent movement that may be addressing these issues. Just last month the school hired a new assistant dean of career services, so at least the office is being examined and progressing. Also, apparently the new dean created a new position for director of experiential learning, which I imagine can only help with the career prospects for the students. Here are two links to these stories:
http://www.bc.edu/content/bc/schools/la ... _dean.html
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/10/23/bos ... -position/

Anyway, given these changes, it seems the school is working to address the market and the employment numbers, and as I value both a school's numbers and the community/experience of the school itself, I think I'm leaning towards BC at this point. Also, as I understand, the dean is fairly new, does anyone know how the students feel about him yet?

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby Tremendous » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:18 pm

BC gave me 2k more after my second round of negotiation, so I'm up to 22k/yr. That's good enough for me, so sending in my deposit soon.

Excited to finally know where I'm going! Anyone else sold on BC yet?

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby ls23 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:29 pm

Tremendous wrote:BC gave me 2k more after my second round of negotiation, so I'm up to 22k/yr. That's good enough for me, so sending in my deposit soon.

Excited to finally know where I'm going! Anyone else sold on BC yet?


How did you approach going back and renegotiating an already negotiated number? Did you get additional scholarships from other schools or just pushed back on wanting more? Curious because I'm still hesitant on bc with my current negotiated offer.

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby nkime » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:54 pm

Do you guys think that it is a good idea to call their financial aid office and ask about the scholarship?
I sent a negotiation letter and a follow-up letter(both emails) to admissions office but haven't heard back until now.
Maybe my number (lsat at median, no gpa) is not good enough for the scholarship, but at least I need some answers before the deposit deadline. :(

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby Tremendous » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:58 pm

nkime wrote:Do you guys think that it is a good idea to call their financial aid office and ask about the scholarship?
I sent a negotiation letter and a follow-up letter(both emails) to admissions office but haven't heard back until now.
Maybe my number (lsat at median, no gpa) is not good enough for the scholarship, but at least I need some answers before the deposit deadline. :(


How do you have no GPA?...

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby Tremendous » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:59 pm

ls23 wrote:
Tremendous wrote:BC gave me 2k more after my second round of negotiation, so I'm up to 22k/yr. That's good enough for me, so sending in my deposit soon.

Excited to finally know where I'm going! Anyone else sold on BC yet?


How did you approach going back and renegotiating an already negotiated number? Did you get additional scholarships from other schools or just pushed back on wanting more? Curious because I'm still hesitant on bc with my current negotiated offer.


PM'd

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Re: BC 2012-2013 Applicants

Postby nkime » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:01 pm

Tremendous wrote:
nkime wrote:Do you guys think that it is a good idea to call their financial aid office and ask about the scholarship?
I sent a negotiation letter and a follow-up letter(both emails) to admissions office but haven't heard back until now.
Maybe my number (lsat at median, no gpa) is not good enough for the scholarship, but at least I need some answers before the deposit deadline. :(


How do you have no GPA?...


International applicant. I got "Superior" but no numerical GPA.




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