Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby sanjola » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:10 am

bettercallsaul91 wrote:weeeell as someone hanging out on the waitlist whose apartment lease will expire before May and would love to hear back before then, if any admitted folks are pretty sure about withdrawing, don't wait! :mrgreen:


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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby gatorfan163287 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:09 am

erican09 wrote:So scholarship info is coming via email? Accepted 12/10, still no word on $ :(


Got my e-mail with my scholarship offer within an hour of receiving my acceptance e-mail.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby Manhattanman » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:20 am

They say two weeks, so that puts us at hearing by the 24th. Law schools aren't very good with hard dates, though. Good luck.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby Easy-E » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:55 am

Mehhhh still complete as of 12/5.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby Anonymous4444 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:30 pm

is their like a cut off what constitutes tier 1 like number 20 or 15? and if so what tier is fordham. is tier 1 just t14?

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby venus » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:41 pm

Anonymous4444 wrote:is their like a cut off what constitutes tier 1 like number 20 or 15? and if so what tier is fordham. is tier 1 just t14?

Hmm... I think from what I've read most people define tier 1 as 15-50, because T14 is a separate category. That being said, I think top 20 schools, such as GWU, should not be in the same category as many top 50 schools.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby alwayssunnyinfl » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:43 pm

venus wrote:
Anonymous4444 wrote:is their like a cut off what constitutes tier 1 like number 20 or 15? and if so what tier is fordham. is tier 1 just t14?

Hmm... I think from what I've read most people define tier 1 as 15-50, because T14 is a separate category. That being said, I think top 20 schools, such as GWU, should not be in the same category as many top 50 schools.

After the T14, the rankings become wildly useless.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby totoro » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:51 pm

But don't you get better job prospects with BU, BC, WUSTL, GW, maybe Fordham? What do you guys think.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby alwayssunnyinfl » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:54 pm

totoro wrote:But don't you get better job prospects with BU, BC, WUSTL, GW, maybe Fordham? What do you guys think.


This isn't really the thread for it (this is discussed ad nauseum here) but look at the top 30 schools. Employment outcomes are obviously not given as much weight as they should be. Arizona State, W&L, and U Washington are all fine schools, but compare their LST profiles with WUSTL, GWU, and Fordham, and you see how little the rankings really matter.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby teachmehowtoraji » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:55 pm

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
venus wrote:
Anonymous4444 wrote:is their like a cut off what constitutes tier 1 like number 20 or 15? and if so what tier is fordham. is tier 1 just t14?

Hmm... I think from what I've read most people define tier 1 as 15-50, because T14 is a separate category. That being said, I think top 20 schools, such as GWU, should not be in the same category as many top 50 schools.

After the T14, the rankings become wildly useless.



Bingo. It all depends on where you want to work after you get outside the t14. Some schools outperform their ranking in biglaw placement (Fordham is an example), but the rankings after 14~18 or so fluctuate so wildly you shouldn't put too much emphasis on where a school's ranked (ASU is a prime example). I saw a graph floating around here a few weeks ago that illustrates this really well, let me see if I can find it.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby ajax » Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:49 pm

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
totoro wrote:But don't you get better job prospects with BU, BC, WUSTL, GW, maybe Fordham? What do you guys think.


This isn't really the thread for it (this is discussed ad nauseum here) but look at the top 30 schools. Employment outcomes are obviously not given as much weight as they should be. Arizona State, W&L, and U Washington are all fine schools, but compare their LST profiles with WUSTL, GWU, and Fordham, and you see how little the rankings really matter.


If I recall, roughly 57% of Fordham graduates acquire jobs that require a JD. So, rankings wise you would think they would be much lower than 30, until you realize that most law schools only find legitimate employment for 50% of their graduates.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby ph5354a » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:27 pm

Finally a status update today! Complete 11/28 and then 12/20. Please love me, Fordham.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby ph5354a » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:37 pm

djlmjs22 wrote:Admitted via status checker! :D Complete 11/19ish, 12/7, 12/13
164 3.93 non-URM

Congratulations!! Here's to more decisions tomorrow!

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:52 pm

teachmehowtoraji wrote:
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
venus wrote:
Anonymous4444 wrote:is their like a cut off what constitutes tier 1 like number 20 or 15? and if so what tier is fordham. is tier 1 just t14?

Hmm... I think from what I've read most people define tier 1 as 15-50, because T14 is a separate category. That being said, I think top 20 schools, such as GWU, should not be in the same category as many top 50 schools.

After the T14, the rankings become wildly useless.

Bingo. It all depends on where you want to work after you get outside the t14. Some schools outperform their ranking in biglaw placement (Fordham is an example), but the rankings after 14~18 or so fluctuate so wildly you shouldn't put too much emphasis on where a school's ranked (ASU is a prime example). I saw a graph floating around here a few weeks ago that illustrates this really well, let me see if I can find it.

ajax wrote:If I recall, roughly 57% of Fordham graduates acquire jobs that require a JD. So, rankings wise you would think they would be much lower than 30, until you realize that most law schools only find legitimate employment for 50% of their graduates.
Yes, Yes, and Yes.
Once you get outside the T14 (and to a lesser degree even within the T14) location matters more than ranking, because schools predominantly place in the home market, where they're perceived better than their peers. For example, USC would have a hard time placing in Alabama, while Emory won't be competitive in Wisconsin.

Beyond that, there are different measures for employment outcome. Some people only consider biglaw + Fed. Clerkship as desirable outcomes, where Fordham is in the top 20*, while others are most concerned with JD required full time jobs**, where Alabama has a high percentage.

Neither metric is fair, for a number of reasons, but these numbers are objective and readily available, so that's what most people concern themselves with.

*See here for details
**LST

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby mooseman2216 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:51 pm

In via email 166 3.66 non urm! No mention of scholarship though.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby Easy-E » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:31 pm

Denied, fuck. Wish I knew if it was the c&f or the gpa. Fuck.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby 30-Something » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:41 pm

emarxnj wrote:Denied, fuck. Wish I knew if it was the c&f or the gpa. Fuck.


Sorry to hear that... If you contact them, they'll be quite honest with you about their reasons. There is always next cycle. Best of luck!

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby gmp » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:05 am

djlmjs22 wrote:How long after acceptance does scholarship info come out? From this thread it seems like it could be an hour to 2 weeks. Also has anyone contacted them about getting a possible scholarship? I doubt that I'm a super competitive candidate for one, but I really need one to attend so I'd like some info...

when i got my acceptance packet in the mail, there was a letter inside that said that if you are going to be awarded a scholarship, the info will come via e-mail within two weeks of your acceptance. i don't think i'm super competitive either but i'm still hoping they offer me something...

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby Gemini » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:41 pm

Hiya!

2L here.

If you guys have any questions, feel free to ask me/PM me.

Congrats to all those accepted so far!

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Re: Fordham c/o 2016/17 (2012-2013 Cycle)

Postby vinnnyvincenzo » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:38 pm

I applied like 2 weeks ago and still havent received a status checker e-mail or any confirmation that they received my application at all, has this time lapse been experienced by anyone else or should I have gotten some indication from the school already?




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