UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Dman » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:27 am

KingFish wrote:
yodamiked wrote:What are people's thoughts on UCLA not ranking its students? In one way, if you're hanging around median it helps you out, but if you manage to kick butt and make it into the top 10%, my concern is that you're not going to get the same opportunities you would at a school that ranks its students. Seems like it lowers your risks, but puts everyone (even those who may not deserve it) at more equal footing. Thoughts?

If you get good enough grades to be top 10%, the employers will be able to tell just from looking at your transcript and seeing all the A's. Maybe a current Bruin can answer, but I doubt it hurts students at all. Most top schools don't rank right?



Bruin alum here. Not ranking has no effect on hiring by firms in California. Firms are pretty clear what GPAs approximate requisite rank cutoffs. There might be some confusion if you were applying outside of Cali markets but as other said if you were in top 10% range employers will know. And if you are medium, a UCLA degree is not going to help you much against local schools regardless of rank.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby LittleTree » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:00 am

The dean told me they rank the top 10 students numerically and give rankings every 5% up to the top 25%

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby boblawlob » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:11 am

Dman wrote:
KingFish wrote:
yodamiked wrote:What are people's thoughts on UCLA not ranking its students? In one way, if you're hanging around median it helps you out, but if you manage to kick butt and make it into the top 10%, my concern is that you're not going to get the same opportunities you would at a school that ranks its students. Seems like it lowers your risks, but puts everyone (even those who may not deserve it) at more equal footing. Thoughts?

If you get good enough grades to be top 10%, the employers will be able to tell just from looking at your transcript and seeing all the A's. Maybe a current Bruin can answer, but I doubt it hurts students at all. Most top schools don't rank right?



Bruin alum here. Not ranking has no effect on hiring by firms in California. Firms are pretty clear what GPAs approximate requisite rank cutoffs. There might be some confusion if you were applying outside of Cali markets but as other said if you were in top 10% range employers will know. And if you are medium, a UCLA degree is not going to help you much against local schools regardless of rank.

So even top 50% at UCLA won't be remotely any good?

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Dman » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:12 am

LittleTree wrote:The dean told me they rank the top 10 students numerically and give rankings every 5% up to the top 25%


The top 10 students ranked part has always been the case. I did not mention it because it is best to not fantasize about such things. Of course you can get your rank if you apply for clerkships but you are required to sign a non-disclosure so, that rank cannot be given to employers outside of that context. The 5% up to 25% thing, I have never heard of, it is also not listed on the schools website in ranking https://www.law.ucla.edu/career-services/employers/Pages/guide-to-grade-reporting.aspx

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Dman » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:12 am

boblawlob wrote:
Dman wrote:
KingFish wrote:
yodamiked wrote:What are people's thoughts on UCLA not ranking its students? In one way, if you're hanging around median it helps you out, but if you manage to kick butt and make it into the top 10%, my concern is that you're not going to get the same opportunities you would at a school that ranks its students. Seems like it lowers your risks, but puts everyone (even those who may not deserve it) at more equal footing. Thoughts?

If you get good enough grades to be top 10%, the employers will be able to tell just from looking at your transcript and seeing all the A's. Maybe a current Bruin can answer, but I doubt it hurts students at all. Most top schools don't rank right?



Bruin alum here. Not ranking has no effect on hiring by firms in California. Firms are pretty clear what GPAs approximate requisite rank cutoffs. There might be some confusion if you were applying outside of Cali markets but as other said if you were in top 10% range employers will know. And if you are medium, a UCLA degree is not going to help you much against local schools regardless of rank.

So even top 50% at UCLA won't be remotely any good?


Outside of Socal, no.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby LittleTree » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:16 am

Dman wrote:
LittleTree wrote:The dean told me they rank the top 10 students numerically and give rankings every 5% up to the top 25%


The top 10 students ranked part has always been the case. I did not mention it because it is best to not fantasize about such things. Of course you can get your rank if you apply for clerkships but you are required to sign a non-disclosure so, that rank cannot be given to employers outside of that context. The 5% up to 25% thing, I have never heard of, it is also not listed on the schools website in ranking https://www.law.ucla.edu/career-services/employers/Pages/guide-to-grade-reporting.aspx


The conversation was in the context of clerking so thats probably what they were talking about. My bad. Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Hrun » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:16 pm

Any acceptances today? I'm starting to loose hope.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby yodamiked » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:31 pm

Anyone know what most UCLA law students do for work during their first summer? I know other schools I'm considering have summer externships that count for credit, but it doesn't look like UCLA offers anything during the summer. From what I can glean from the internet, doesn't look like many students get firm employment their first summer either.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby SisyphusHappy » Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:30 pm

yodamiked wrote:Anyone know what most UCLA law students do for work during their first summer? I know other schools I'm considering have summer externships that count for credit, but it doesn't look like UCLA offers anything during the summer. From what I can glean from the internet, doesn't look like many students get firm employment their first summer either.


Mostly PI/government/judicial work. They have funding for the first two. The library also hires RAs. It's not the most exciting thing in the world, but it pays and the hours are great.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby fallingup » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:02 pm

Just withdrew. $75K back in the pot. Good luck to all.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby uconjak » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:47 pm

Going to send in the Deposit, next week. They up'ed my Scholly to 90K 30 days ago. Does anyone think that I could go back to the well for another 15K? to even up the COA to USC? I think it is bad form but that is 15K less to borrow.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby AKsnow » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:11 pm

uconjak wrote:Going to send in the Deposit, next week. They up'ed my Scholly to 90K 30 days ago. Does anyone think that I could go back to the well for another 15K? to even up the COA to USC? I think it is bad form but that is 15K less to borrow.


Yes. You have better numbers than me and I just got upped to 105k. That was my second request to them.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby md22 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:45 pm

Still no word from UCLA. What is going on?

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Melo723 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:49 pm

md22 wrote:Still no word from UCLA. What is going on?


Yeah, I'm getting super anxious. Would it be a bad idea for me to call the admissions office for an update? I don't want to annoy them..

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby kckool7 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:03 pm

Waitlisted from UCLA, applied in late January. Still thinking about if I'll ride it out.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby violettre » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:47 pm

Boo. Rejected via email.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby md22 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:54 pm

Finally heard from UCLA. Waitlisted. I think I'll ride it out. What's the consensus on our chances of getting in off of the waitlist?

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby luxurylawyer » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:32 am

Waitlisted as well. That's seven thus far, Shooter.

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby AndiDail » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:15 pm

Also waitlisted via e-mail. I'm already in L.A., so I plan to ride it out!

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bruin91 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:37 pm

Looks like I'm going to be a Bruin for life!!
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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Cali_App_333 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:46 am

Just committed to UCLA Law School. Bruin for life!!

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby JohnMarshall17 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:07 am

Committed 2 days ago. Go Bruins!!!

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby jbagelboy » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:57 pm

Withdrew from UCLA via SIR website.

I hope it lets one of you recent waitlists get admitted.

UCLA was my first law school acceptance ever. It felt very bizarre withdrawing. I remember getting Dean Schwartz's call like it was yesterday and thinking, wow, I'm actually going to law school.

TBH, if it weren't for TLS and all the debt/employment hype here, I may have even attended because I'm from SoCal and UCLA was my original goal when I was studying for the LSAT. Hopefully I won't regret this!

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby thatgumyoulike » Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:19 pm

So for the May 1st seat deposit deadline, it seems we have to sign a SIR. Does anyone know if it is binding? I still have some negotiating to do. Also, is it too late to ask for an extension?

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Re: UCLA c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bruin91 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:28 pm

thatgumyoulike wrote:So for the May 1st seat deposit deadline, it seems we have to sign a SIR. Does anyone know if it is binding? I still have some negotiating to do. Also, is it too late to ask for an extension?


No, not binding. As for the extension, I think it would depend on the reason(s) you cite.




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