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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby switchis32 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:29 pm

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switchis32 wrote:Hey I know this is a stupid or trivial question, but being that it says decision letter sent, what do you actually say if you call to get your decision over the phone? (not that I have reached Dsl yet but I was just wondering) I feel like they would just say you will see in your letter. Haha


Due to deposit deadlines I really need to know my decision. Remember to someone not on TLS there is no reason to know that DLS does not equal admit.


Oh wow good point. I didn't even think of that outing yourself as being on tls

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby wert3813 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:31 pm

switchis32 wrote:
wert3813 wrote:
switchis32 wrote:Hey I know this is a stupid or trivial question, but being that it says decision letter sent, what do you actually say if you call to get your decision over the phone? (not that I have reached Dsl yet but I was just wondering) I feel like they would just say you will see in your letter. Haha


Due to deposit deadlines I really need to know my decision. Remember to someone not on TLS there is no reason to know that DLS does not equal admit.


Oh wow good point. I didn't even think of that outing yourself as being on tls


What? No I'm just saying for the average person who calls, it's reasonable for admissions to assume they think they might have got admitted and need to know in order to pay a deposit or not.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby rockclimber2013 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:35 pm

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby jbagelboy » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:41 am

With Yale completing its decisions earlier tonight, Stanford now retains along with Uchi the dubious honor of being the last school to inform its applicants of an initial decision. And they dont even conduct interviews. Bravo mes amis

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby wert3813 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:51 am

jbagelboy wrote:With Yale completing its decisions earlier tonight, Stanford now retains along with Uchi the dubious honor of being the last school to inform its applicants of an initial decision. And they dont even conduct interviews. Bravo mes amis


Yale not done yet.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby jbagelboy » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:01 am

wert3813 wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:With Yale completing its decisions earlier tonight, Stanford now retains along with Uchi the dubious honor of being the last school to inform its applicants of an initial decision. And they dont even conduct interviews. Bravo mes amis


Yale not done yet.


Ahh true some stragglers, my bad. They largely emptied it out tonight and last night tho right? Whereas sls still has a substantial minority with no word

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby HankBashir » Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:56 am

jbagelboy wrote:
wert3813 wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:With Yale completing its decisions earlier tonight, Stanford now retains along with Uchi the dubious honor of being the last school to inform its applicants of an initial decision. And they dont even conduct interviews. Bravo mes amis


Yale not done yet.


Ahh true some stragglers, my bad. They largely emptied it out tonight and last night tho right? Whereas sls still has a substantial minority with no word

Columbia isn't done yet either....or maybe they just hate me

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby ssanonymous » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:04 pm

HankBashir wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:
wert3813 wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:With Yale completing its decisions earlier tonight, Stanford now retains along with Uchi the dubious honor of being the last school to inform its applicants of an initial decision. And they dont even conduct interviews. Bravo mes amis


Yale not done yet.


Ahh true some stragglers, my bad. They largely emptied it out tonight and last night tho right? Whereas sls still has a substantial minority with no word

Columbia isn't done yet either....or maybe they just hate me


Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby HankBashir » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:10 pm

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Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison


Curiosity mainly.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby ssanonymous » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:12 pm

HankBashir wrote:
ssanonymous wrote:
Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison


Curiosity mainly.


This. Too many applicants do this, and it hurts others in the applicant pool.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby dnptan » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:19 pm

ssanonymous wrote:
HankBashir wrote:
ssanonymous wrote:
Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison


Curiosity mainly.


This. Too many applicants do this, and it hurts others in the applicant pool.


I agree. I am planning on withdrawing from all schools except my backup to open things up for other people. I think that it's selfish to keep slots to yourself for the purpose of your ego. It just goes to show that you still need validation, and that validation is more important to you than the opportunity for other people to excel.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby scoutmaster » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:21 pm

dnptan wrote:
ssanonymous wrote:
HankBashir wrote:
ssanonymous wrote:
Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison


Curiosity mainly.


This. Too many applicants do this, and it hurts others in the applicant pool.


I agree. I am planning on withdrawing from all schools except my backup to open things up for other people. I think that it's selfish to keep slots to yourself for the purpose of your ego. It just goes to show that you still need validation, and that validation is more important to you than the opportunity for other people to excel.


+1.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby ssanonymous » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:23 pm

dnptan wrote:
ssanonymous wrote:
HankBashir wrote:
ssanonymous wrote:
Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison


Curiosity mainly.


This. Too many applicants do this, and it hurts others in the applicant pool.


I agree. I am planning on withdrawing from all schools except my backup to open things up for other people. I think that it's selfish to keep slots to yourself for the purpose of your ego. It just goes to show that you still need validation, and that validation is more important to you than the opportunity for other people to excel.


Likewise. I withdrew from everywhere except Columbia's waitlist (still thinking about) the moment I got a good aid offer from Berkeley. I understand stringing along law schools in the hopes of getting more money, but HYS are all need based, so keeping a slot at a T-14 is pointless.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby beepboopbeep » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:25 pm

Oh c'mon, enough white-knighting about people not withdrawing. It will not make a difference in the end; either you'll get in off the waitlist or you won't. Schools are going to end up with their class sizes no matter how we scheme. Financial aid will get recycled.

I withdrew my H/Y/Columbia undergrad apps after getting into Chicago EA, and I've regretted it for years - even though I probably would have made the same decision either way, and I don't really regret going to UofC. Sometimes you just want to know exactly where you were wanted and what your various options were. Is it a need for validation? Probably. But that can a long way for confidence or motivation when you're coming from a background that doesn't expect you to get into schools like Columbia.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby ssanonymous » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:28 pm

beepboopbeep wrote:Oh c'mon, enough white-knighting about people not withdrawing. It will not make a difference in the end; either you'll get in off the waitlist or you won't. Schools are going to end up with their class sizes no matter how we scheme. Financial aid will get recycled.

I withdrew my H/Y/Columbia undergrad apps after getting into Chicago EA, and I've regretted it for years - even though I probably would have made the same decision either way, and I don't really regret going to UofC. Sometimes you just want to know exactly where you were wanted and what your various options were.


idk, think about SLS right now. They're agonizing about the last slots that they'll give out. Doesn't it seem wrong to stay in the running knowing full well that you won't attend?

Also, many law school deans have posted on their blogs that this practice doesn't make sense and that they're effectively taking a spot away from someone else who REALLY wants to attend. Check out Faye's blog
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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby beepboopbeep » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:29 pm

ssanonymous wrote:
beepboopbeep wrote:Oh c'mon, enough white-knighting about people not withdrawing. It will not make a difference in the end; either you'll get in off the waitlist or you won't. Schools are going to end up with their class sizes no matter how we scheme. Financial aid will get recycled.

I withdrew my H/Y/Columbia undergrad apps after getting into Chicago EA, and I've regretted it for years - even though I probably would have made the same decision either way, and I don't really regret going to UofC. Sometimes you just want to know exactly where you were wanted and what your various options were.


idk, think about SLS right now. They're agonizing about the last slots that they'll give out. Doesn't it seem wrong to stay in the running knowing full well that you won't attend?


Isn't that what waitlists are for? Pardon me if I'm being dense here - I just don't see how withdrawing early vs telling them at the deadline would make a difference.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:32 pm

beepboopbeep wrote:
ssanonymous wrote:
beepboopbeep wrote:Oh c'mon, enough white-knighting about people not withdrawing. It will not make a difference in the end; either you'll get in off the waitlist or you won't. Schools are going to end up with their class sizes no matter how we scheme. Financial aid will get recycled.

I withdrew my H/Y/Columbia undergrad apps after getting into Chicago EA, and I've regretted it for years - even though I probably would have made the same decision either way, and I don't really regret going to UofC. Sometimes you just want to know exactly where you were wanted and what your various options were.


idk, think about SLS right now. They're agonizing about the last slots that they'll give out. Doesn't it seem wrong to stay in the running knowing full well that you won't attend?


Isn't that what waitlists are for? Pardon me if I'm being dense here - I just don't see how withdrawing early vs telling them at the deadline would make a difference.

Waitlists are for people who would attend if admitted (pending, of course, finaid decisions). Not for fun.

For me, the biggest problem with doing this is that it's not just a matter of possibly making people wait a bit longer to get off a waitlist: it's really changing people's lives. Over the next few weeks people are going to be making very large deposits and signing housing contracts which can make it very difficult to accept a position off of a waitlist unless you have significant financial resources.

If you are completely sure that you wouldn't attend a school if you were accepted, then, in my opinion, you should withdraw. If there is even the tiniest chance that you would attend, even if only with a sizable scholarship then I would say that you're justified in staying on.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby HankBashir » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:36 pm

Ech. It's not for validation purposes as much as data seeking purposes (there's a dearth of information on URM cycles in general) and keeping my options open. I haven't deposited at SLS yet (only at GULC). I have withdrawn from all the wait lists I'm on sans HLS, and I withdrew from my non-t14 acceptances and I'm about to withdraw from NU.

Thanks for the arm-chair psychology though.

Also, I don't know full well that I won't attend. For undergrad, I got into my dream school EA, and going there was probably the worst decision of my life, so you'll forgive me for being hesitant until I have all my options.

Also, SLS is still going to be 190k+ of debt at graduation and if Columbia or Uchicago would let me in with enough aid, I might go there. I doubt this will happen, but I am curious.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby beepboopbeep » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:38 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:
beepboopbeep wrote:Isn't that what waitlists are for? Pardon me if I'm being dense here - I just don't see how withdrawing early vs telling them at the deadline would make a difference.

Waitlists are for people who would attend if admitted (pending, of course, finaid decisions). Not for fun.

For me, the biggest problem with doing this is that it's not just a matter of possibly making people wait a bit longer to get off a waitlist: it's really changing people's lives. Over the next few weeks people are going to be making very large deposits and signing housing contracts which can make it very difficult to accept a position off of a waitlist unless you have significant financial resources.

If you are completely sure that you wouldn't attend a school if you were accepted, then, in my opinion, you should withdraw. If there is even the tiniest chance that you would attend, even if only with a sizable scholarship then I would say that you're justified in staying on.


But Hank isn't on the CLS waitlist - he hasn't received a decision at all either way from them. It seems fair that he could at least wait until hearing something before withdrawing.

Fair point about the effects of staying on a waitlist for too long - thanks for explaining. I withdrew from Michigan/Cornell for that very reason. But I do think there's a difference between withdrawing from a waitlist and withdrawing from a school before getting any decision back.

HankBashier wrote:Thanks for the arm-chair psychology though.


Not sure if directed toward me or the others, but my comment wasn't meant to say those were your reasons; they were mine for why I regretted my UG withdrawals.

edited for spelling and grammar, oof.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby wert3813 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:44 pm

HankBashir wrote:Ech. It's not for validation purposes as much as data seeking purposes (there's a dearth of information on URM cycles in general) and keeping my options open. I haven't deposited at SLS yet (only at GULC). I have withdrawn from all the wait lists I'm on sans HLS, and I withdrew from my non-t14 acceptances and I'm about to withdraw from NU.

Thanks for the arm-chair psychology though.

Also, I don't know full well that I won't attend. For undergrad, I got into my dream school EA, and going there was probably the worst decision of my life, so you'll forgive me for being hesitant until I have all my options.

Also, SLS is still going to be 190k+ of debt at graduation and if Columbia or Uchicago would let me in with enough aid, I might go there. I doubt this will happen, but I am curious.


Justified then...

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby dnptan » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:56 pm

wert3813 wrote:
HankBashir wrote:Ech. It's not for validation purposes as much as data seeking purposes (there's a dearth of information on URM cycles in general) and keeping my options open. I haven't deposited at SLS yet (only at GULC). I have withdrawn from all the wait lists I'm on sans HLS, and I withdrew from my non-t14 acceptances and I'm about to withdraw from NU.

Thanks for the arm-chair psychology though.

Also, I don't know full well that I won't attend. For undergrad, I got into my dream school EA, and going there was probably the worst decision of my life, so you'll forgive me for being hesitant until I have all my options.

Also, SLS is still going to be 190k+ of debt at graduation and if Columbia or Uchicago would let me in with enough aid, I might go there. I doubt this will happen, but I am curious.


Justified then...


Yeah if there's still a chance you're going to attend (A legitimate one, not a "let's keep my options open" one) then it's prudent to stay in the running. Otherwise, I fully support withdrawing to ease the burden on both our fellow 0Ls, and the adcoms.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby feelingood » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:33 pm

Is there traditionally a specific day of the week that SLS sends out (what I assume) is the last wave of rejects/wls and perhaps some acceptances? Or are we just all on pins and needles until May 1?

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby ssanonymous » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:38 pm

feelingood wrote:Is there traditionally a specific day of the week that SLS sends out (what I assume) is the last wave of rejects/wls and perhaps some acceptances? Or are we just all on pins and needles until May 1?


trying to find consistency from SLS admissions? Cute. Nah, I think we just need to compulsively refresh our status checkers.

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby yarsten » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:47 pm

Well, today is the seven-month anniversary since the last movement on my status checker. I know some of you are in the same boat- what should we do to celebrate?!?!? IT'S SO EXCITING!!!

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Re: Stanford C/O 2016 Applicants Thread

Postby ssanonymous » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:57 pm

yarsten wrote:Well, today is the seven-month anniversary since the last movement on my status checker. I know some of you are in the same boat- what should we do to celebrate?!?!? IT'S SO EXCITING!!!


Drunk dial Faye




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