uconjak wrote:RSterling wrote:uconjak wrote:I am going to start a little rant on the thread. Most Top law schools (T-14's), tend to like top rank UG schools. Yes in know they pick some special snowflakes from "Slippery Rock University" who have very high LSAT/GPA scores or who are URM's. I believe that all things being equal they will pick someone from an IVy vs someone went to a state school in the midwest. This was as much said by the dean of Boalt. He said most of the students accepted were from the "ivies". I think this bias is more prevasive in T-14 schools. When I visited Berkley last fall with my parents. my parents and i were separated and I overheard some student talking about my dad. He had a red Polo shirt on with U of Nebraska football logo above the pocket. these students made some rather rude comments about him being from the "Fly OVer Zone" of the country. I sat and listened for a minute then I spoke to them saying you know he also has a USMC tatoo on his arm. They said, figures probably one of those "baby killers" from VIetnam. and they laughed. Had a similar experience at Yale when I was touring their for UG. My dad just smiled at the Yale tour guide and asked him these questions.
1. have you every had someone you love die in your arms.
2. Have you ever saved someones life who you didn't know.
3. have you ever had to kill someone, so close, you could smell what they had for breakfast on their last breath.
the guide, who was about ready to Pee his pants...studdered, said no.
my dad just smiled and said, i thought so. Until you have had to do those things, you have no right to judge me.
Just a little rant. sorry everyone.
So you're saying that two people on seperate campuses, one a tour guide, called your father a murderer for being in Vietnam? I went to a state school at least as liberal as Berkeley and I've never heard anyone speak poorly of individuals in the military, let alone call them a "baby-killer."
I mean no disrespect, but it's really hard for me to believe that a tour guide actually ragged on your father for being a vet.
If this is true, then that's awful and I'm really sorry, but I wouldn't use that as a basis for a big generalization that T-14 schools look down on people who did not go to an Ivy. And this is coming from someone from a non-prestigious state school.
Edit: I wanted to add that while I don't think the school themselves look down on people who did not go to an ivy, that doesn't mean that those types of places don't attract more assholes than usual (though, honestly, I don't really put Berkeley in that category. Yale, definitely).
1. The kids at Berkley, I don't believe they ment it. but it was the attitude (Baby killer comment). hard to put into words here. I was just being a little provacative, to see what they would say.
2. the guide at Yale made a comment about the war in iraq and said made some bad remarks about both Presidents named Bush. which i thought was in poor taste. He also made a comment to my dad that made my dad tense up, I didn't here what he said, only my dads reply. My dad would not talk about it.
3. I just think it is a bias that gives those who went the the Top UG schools the get "nod", if all things being equal. especially if you are a competing with an IVY and both are boarderline canadates. IMHO.
My dad is a quiet soft spoken guy, but when upset, gives you that LOOK, talks to you in a low voice that freezes you in place and speaking from experience scares the hell out of you.
Just letting my frustration out is all....i knew going in that stanford was a longshot. just pissed at some of the others down the line.
Where you headed?