Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Lagunitan
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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Lagunitan » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:50 pm

nmb43 wrote:
Lagunitan wrote:Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there's much precedent for straight admits coming after the big wave of waitlists. In past years, it looks like basically all admits occurred before the waitlist wave, or at the same time. (And this makes sense, if you think about it). That said, it also seems like the waitlist wave usually comes later in April. I'm not sure what to think of those of us who had recent JS1s/KB1s but haven't heard anything.


I was really happy I survived today. And then I read this. Sigh I just want to know


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FWIW, the blog post someone linked to earlier does say they are continuing to process applications on a rolling basis, so who knows. Did you have a recent JS1/KB1? And were you a late submitter? We have very similar numbers.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby whynot123 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:56 pm

I think people also have to consider that this cycle is different than previous due to the decrease in applicants this year. They might have changed it up from previous years... so I personally think that people who had recent JS1/KB1's are still in the game.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Lagunitan » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:57 pm

whynot123 wrote:I think people also have to consider that this cycle is different than previous due to the decrease in applicants this year. They might have changed it up from previous years... so I personally think that people who had recent JS1/KB1's are still in the game.


I hope you're right, California comrade. Are you also a recent JS1/KB1?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby whynot123 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:02 pm

I am not. I'm just doing my research before I apply next year...

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby volp » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:51 pm

so idk if this is dumb but

what's the average hls financial aid package? what does a really good one look like?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby jselson » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:57 pm

volp wrote:so idk if this is dumb but

what's the average hls financial aid package? what does a really good one look like?


A good one is half, and it means you (and your parents) are poor or over 29 without much savings/assets. A great one is full, and it means you're older with a family and kids. Average is closer to 10k a year, more or less.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby volp » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:25 pm

jselson wrote:
volp wrote:so idk if this is dumb but

what's the average hls financial aid package? what does a really good one look like?


A good one is half, and it means you (and your parents) are poor or over 29 without much savings/assets. A great one is full, and it means you're older with a family and kids. Average is closer to 10k a year, more or less.


half of the $78,000 tuition (incl room and board)? so a 'full' is $78,000?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby read2465 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:28 pm

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby volp » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:35 pm

read2465 wrote:
volp wrote:
jselson wrote:
volp wrote:so idk if this is dumb but

what's the average hls financial aid package? what does a really good one look like?


A good one is half, and it means you (and your parents) are poor or over 29 without much savings/assets. A great one is full, and it means you're older with a family and kids. Average is closer to 10k a year, more or less.


half of the $78,000 tuition (incl room and board)? so a 'full' is $78,000?


I'm pretty sure the grant amount can not go over the tuition amount.


oh okay. so the max grant is the cost of tuition, but the financial aid package (part of which are loans) can possibly equal tuition+room and board. If i'm understanding

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Eli » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:01 pm

Through federal loans (specifically Stafford and GradPLUS), domestic students are theoretically able to get up to the estimated student budget, which is tuition + costs. For international students who don't qualify for federal loans, Harvard has a grant program that functions similarly.

So it's just a question of how much debt in loans you can afford to shoulder, if you want federal or private loans, etc.

Edit: This isn't a direct response to your question, but I thought I'd throw out some info about the loans, since it seemed like you were headed in that direction anyway :)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby chickpea » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:04 pm

Waitlisted earlier today. Pretty surprised I made it this far with my 168/3.9. Held 2/22.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby volp » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:35 pm

Eli wrote:Through federal loans (specifically Stafford and GradPLUS), domestic students are theoretically able to get up to the estimated student budget, which is tuition + costs. For international students who don't qualify for federal loans, Harvard has a grant program that functions similarly.

So it's just a question of how much debt in loans you can afford to shoulder, if you want federal or private loans, etc.

Edit: This isn't a direct response to your question, but I thought I'd throw out some info about the loans, since it seemed like you were headed in that direction anyway :)


thank you!!

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ObviousAlias » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:48 pm

I went complete on 3/18 and survived the Black Friday purge, but I'm JS0. Am I a dead applicant walking, or do I still have as shot?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby liupang » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:57 pm

Anyone get JS2 this week?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby facile princeps » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:04 pm

volp wrote:
jselson wrote:
volp wrote:so idk if this is dumb but

what's the average hls financial aid package? what does a really good one look like?


A good one is half, and it means you (and your parents) are poor or over 29 without much savings/assets. A great one is full, and it means you're older with a family and kids. Average is closer to 10k a year, more or less.


half of the $78,000 tuition (incl room and board)? so a 'full' is $78,000?

The maximum grant is the difference between your student budget ($78000ish) and the base loan ($43100 <--- made up of federal and HLS loans). For example, the most needy of us would get close to $35k if the default student budget was used ($78k - $43k) and we weren't expected to contribute anything towards the budget. However, if they determine that you're able to contribute something, that grant amount would be lowered by the amount they expect you to pay.

Whenever people get grants that cover the full tuition or close ($50000ish), it's because their student budget was increased from $78k for various reasons. For example, someone with a wife and child may get an adjusted student budget of $95k. After deducting the base loan, we're left with roughly $52k. If that person is not deemed to be able to make a financial contribution towards the cost of attendance (because of no assets/savings, etc), then they'd prob get a grant of around $50-52k. IIRC, that's the only way people can get full tuition grants. In other words, on a regular student budget of $78k, it's not possible to get more than $35k because you are required to take the base loan as a condition of accepting grants.

tl;dr: Your grant is the difference between your student budget (normally around $78k) and the base loan ($43k). If they don't think you can pay anything, you should get the full difference or close (around $30-35k), and it's entirely need based.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby gfd973 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:27 pm

ObviousAlias wrote:I went complete on 3/18 and survived the Black Friday purge, but I'm JS0. Am I a dead applicant walking, or do I still have as shot?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby jselson » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:40 pm

ObviousAlias wrote:I went complete on 3/18 and survived the Black Friday purge, but I'm JS0. Am I a dead applicant walking, or do I still have as shot?


It hasn't even been a month, so I wouldn't worry about it, but because you applied so late (I'm guessing, or you didn't all your materials in on time), you're probably at some disadvantage.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby La.Chocolate » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:20 am

Has anyone also been waitlisted without ever going through JS1 (Skype Interview)?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby eyfl » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:26 am

La.Chocolate wrote:Has anyone also been waitlisted without ever going through JS1 (Skype Interview)?

The majority it seems

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby toothbrush » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:07 am

sorry to hark on a question that was probably discussed already but what does a WL mean to hls? I was *surprisingly* WL yesterday. I was expecting a ding. Should I keep a sliver of hope or is the WL a soft rejection?

edit : found the WL thread viewtopic.php?f=7&t=207522

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby TripTrip » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:11 am

toothbrush wrote:sorry to hark on a question that was probably discussed already but what does a WL mean to hls?

Same as with every school. You're more than likely not getting in, but every year they admit some off the WL.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby toothbrush » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:13 am

TripTrip wrote:
toothbrush wrote:sorry to hark on a question that was probably discussed already but what does a WL mean to hls?

Same as with every school. You're more than likely not getting in, but every year they admit some off the WL.

the FAQ from JS (i presume) seems hopeful . You just have to hope everyone bails from the WL by july and you get dat late august invite

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby TripTrip » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:23 am

June is when most of the WL--> accept people hear.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby solucky » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:02 pm

Complete 2/1 and crickets since... auto-ding or is there a reason the Harvard Gods have not dinged me yet? 4.02/165

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby txdude45 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:09 pm

solucky wrote:Complete 2/1 and crickets since... auto-ding or is there a reason the Harvard Gods have not dinged me yet? 4.02/165


they've been pulling GPAs recently, so maybe they think they'll want that 4.02 in a couple weeks.




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