Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Cicero76 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:10 pm

FWIW, I am a KJD and didn't get any variation of the "why now?"
Or "would you take time off" questions in my JS1.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby az21833 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:13 pm

i dont think its a bias against K-JD exactly. I think solid 1-2 years work experience in a challenging field that will aid a legal career can be considered a meaningful soft though. So it's more like missing a potential soft than being plotted against, but there's lots of softs lots of people are missing and they get in regardless.

So, I am starting to think Tuesday is typically HLS JS2 day because they use Monday to read through some JS1 reports and make final decisions. Given today is national holiday I suspect this week will go something like this.

Tuesday - Radio Silence (reviewing completed JS1s, remember they gave JS2 on Friday already so clearly they need time to review the next batch before more calls)

Weds. your traditional Tuesday js-2 free-for-all

Thurs - JS1 day

Friday - Hold/Ding Day

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:18 pm

az21833 wrote:i dont think its a bias against K-JD exactly. I think solid 1-2 years work experience in a challenging field that will aid a legal career can be considered a meaningful soft though. So it's more like missing a potential soft than being plotted against, but there's lots of softs lots of people are missing and they get in regardless.

So, I am starting to think Tuesday is typically HLS JS2 day because they use Monday to read through some JS1 reports and make final decisions. Given today is national holiday I suspect this week will go something like this.

Tuesday - Radio Silence (reviewing completed JS1s, remember they gave JS2 on Friday already so clearly they need time to review the next batch before more calls)

Weds. your traditional Tuesday js-2 free-for-all

Thurs - JS1 day

Friday - Hold/Ding Day


Do we have any insight into their interviewing schedule for the week?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby carboncopyx » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:35 pm

sabanist wrote:I didn't mean to suggest that more time out means that people get a better LSAT score. More like, the kind of people who do absurdly well on the LSAT are also going to be the kind of people who do their research on law school and the legal market and perhaps try their hand at something else before taking the plunge. Does that make any more sense?

Yeah, I do see what you mean. I guess I was just kind of confused by how much that would matter given exploration of other fields/industries during summer internships. Or if there is something inherently special about FULL-TIME WE that makes it desirable for HLS.

ManOfTheMinute wrote:Do we have any insight into their interviewing schedule for the week?

From what I recall when signing up for my JS1, all Wednesdays for the next few weeks were available for interview sign-ups. So make of that what you may--I don't know if JS2s and JS1s can fall on the same day or not.

ETA: Deleted something maybe a bit too personal...
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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:49 pm

Solid. Also, I would not count out JS2s going out tomorrow just because it is a "monday." At this point in the application cycle, I doubt that JS/KB are taking the day off given that its not a real holiday and plenty of people (read: me) don't have the day off. Therefore, this week's Tuesday could in fact be like any other Tuesday!

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby WaitingandHopeful » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:50 pm

HLS classes are meeting today.

I'd be very surprised if the admissions office was closed.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby tirakon » Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:22 pm

carboncopyx wrote:
sabanist wrote:I didn't mean to suggest that more time out means that people get a better LSAT score. More like, the kind of people who do absurdly well on the LSAT are also going to be the kind of people who do their research on law school and the legal market and perhaps try their hand at something else before taking the plunge. Does that make any more sense?

Yeah, I do see what you mean. I guess I was just kind of confused by how much that would matter given exploration of other fields/industries during summer internships. Or if there is something inherently special about FULL-TIME WE that makes it desirable for HLS.

ManOfTheMinute wrote:Do we have any insight into their interviewing schedule for the week?

From what I recall when signing up for my JS1, all Wednesdays for the next few weeks were available for interview sign-ups. So make of that what you may--I don't know if JS2s and JS1s can fall on the same day or not.


For what it's worth, after I answered the "Why aren't you taking time off?" question, JS explicitly said something along the lines of, "That's a totally fair reason. We just want to make sure you're not applying because Mommy and Daddy think it's a good idea."

So my impression is that as long as K-JD's have a demonstrated interest in or compelling reason to go to law school, they should be fine. If they don't, a year or two of WE can provide those reasons or at least demonstrate independence on the part of the applicant.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby threonine » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:09 pm

Pretty sure the exact question of k-JD proportions was asked when JS came to my school for an HLS info session (although it could have been YLS... All those sessions kind of blur together haha) fwiw she responded that the proportion of admitted k-jd's roughly reflects the proportion of k-JD applicants. However she cited "one third" as the proportion, which doesn't exactly reflect the stats posted earlier, so who knows. Figured I'd contribute what little knowledge I have!

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby az21833 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:17 pm

well if H was open today, then all systems go for tomorrow. good luck fam

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby carboncopyx » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:41 pm

threonine wrote:Pretty sure the exact question of k-JD proportions was asked when JS came to my school for an HLS info session (although it could have been YLS... All those sessions kind of blur together haha) fwiw she responded that the proportion of admitted k-jd's roughly reflects the proportion of k-JD applicants. However she cited "one third" as the proportion, which doesn't exactly reflect the stats posted earlier, so who knows. Figured I'd contribute what little knowledge I have!

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby jyrkchicken » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:44 pm

carboncopyx wrote:
threonine wrote:Pretty sure the exact question of k-JD proportions was asked when JS came to my school for an HLS info session (although it could have been YLS... All those sessions kind of blur together haha) fwiw she responded that the proportion of admitted k-jd's roughly reflects the proportion of k-JD applicants. However she cited "one third" as the proportion, which doesn't exactly reflect the stats posted earlier, so who knows. Figured I'd contribute what little knowledge I have!

I love you. Hope springs eternal!


There is an interview from last year with JS that says this:

Yes, we do have a conscious preference for having the majority of our class entering with work experience. That said, I think we are comfortable with the composition we have had in the past few years, and we don’t have any plans to increase the percentage of people entering with post-college work experience to more than roughly three-quarters of the class. So, in the hypothetical case of two otherwise “identical” files, the person who had work experience would be more likely to get a spot than one who did not. BUT, here’s a very important distinction that I’m not sure everyone notices: Our class profile focuses on the enrolling class, not the admitted students. We have a liberal deferral policy at HLS. Students are very often admitted straight from college, then choose to take time off before enrolling. I think that’s a very exciting option. College seniors who are ready to apply now, but not necessarily ready to enter next fall, should certainly still apply.


Full interview: http://www.admissionsdean.com/researchi ... sica-soban

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby thelawschoolproject » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:38 pm

az21833 wrote:well if H was open today, then all systems go for tomorrow. good luck fam


All of the offices here were closed today, fwiw.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby carboncopyx » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:38 pm

... now I am back to square one in how I feel about this whole thing. Great. :|

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby kingsfield69 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:41 pm

WaitingandHopeful wrote:HLS classes are meeting today.

I'd be very surprised if the admissions office was closed.


Don't know about Admissions, but Financial Aid was closed today.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby az21833 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:47 pm

doubt js2s tomorrow then. they have had no time to deliberate. if they already had their minds made we would have heard on friday with the others. putting the phone away til weds

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby wert3813 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:22 pm

az21833 wrote: putting the phone away til weds


No you're not.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:21 am

az21833 wrote:doubt js2s tomorrow then. they have had no time to deliberate. if they already had their minds made we would have heard on friday with the others. putting the phone away til weds


It's the heart of admissions season.... I doubt the powers that be took the day off for a made up holiday that people don't really care about. And, don't pretend like you won't still be compulsively checking it and going ape shit every time it vibrates

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby carboncopyx » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:47 am

ManOfTheMinute wrote:don't pretend like you won't still be compulsively checking it and going ape shit every time it vibrates

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby az21833 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:03 am

Lol, fine. Exposed

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby andreskicdo » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:05 pm

I think I am suffering from PTSD after my JS1. Now the wait. JS is awesome btw!!

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby broadstreet11 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:20 pm

I've just realized this today. I wish they hadn't started taking people out of the hold pile. I had three weeks of peace and sanity. Now I'm back to my old pre-JS1 neurotic self.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby az21833 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:35 pm

js2 floodgates open...soon....within 48 hours i bet

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby carboncopyx » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:45 pm

az21833 wrote:js2 floodgates open...soon....within 48 hours i bet

I forbid you from posting on here unless it's you announcing your JS2. Every time I see you as the most recent post in this thread, I have a mini-heart attack for you. I feel like a mother hen.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby carboncopyx » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:48 pm

rebexness wrote:Every time I see YOU as the most recent poster I do the same thing :)

Hahaha... it's been less than a week since my JS1, I don't expect them to get back to me THAT fast. :P (Not like I'm counting the days or anything, of course.)




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